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Pakled posted:Guys, if we have a revolution now it's going to be harder to become Communist later paris commune, motherfucker
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Oct 26, 2017 23:48
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May I propose we make deposing the Sultan a coalition policy between the Diwan and the Taifas?
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Oct 26, 2017 23:57
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Taifas are the main faction, can't form coalitions.
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Oct 26, 2017 23:58
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Crazycryodude posted:Taifas are the main faction, can't form coalitions. Yes but I imagine a coup de etat will go smoother if we have the two biggest factions in the majlis throwing their weight behind it
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Oct 26, 2017 23:59
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Well, like, the Taifas literally cannot form a coalition with anyone under any circumstances because them's the rules for the dominant faction. And besides, the point is to make it as messy and horrible as possible so we tank our stability and collapse into Revolution.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:02
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Somehow I don't think that will go well for us
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Oct 27, 2017 00:03
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Correct, it will go very horribly and start the Revolution disaster which will go even worse but hopefully end with us being a very pissed off and resurgent Revolutionary Al-Andalus putting all our neighbors to the sword for being reactionaries. Seems more fun than trying to claw our way out of this gaping pit the hard way only to get inevitably pushed back into it by France and Morocco every 30 years. E: Wait Hashim do we have any current ongoing disasters? The Revolution can't fire if there's another disaster active, we should probably try and fix any currently up.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:04
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Finally, the vile heretics are throwing in the towel. Proposing the Shi'ism isn't working Restoration. 1. Restore the original Ulema and send these 'Reformed Ulema' Ali-Come-Latelys back where they came from. 2. Restore the majority faith of Al-Andalus as the official faith. The people have made their choice, every time we defy them things get worse.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:06
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Crazycryodude posted:Correct, it will go very horribly and start the Revolution disaster which will go even worse but end with us being a very pissed off and resurgent Revolutionary Al-Andalus putting all our neighbors to the sword for being reactionaries. Seems more fun than trying to claw our way out of this gaping pit the hard way only to get inevitably pushed back into it by France and Morocco every 30 years. Guillotining the Almoravids is going to be sweet
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Oct 27, 2017 00:06
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Talas posted:
 Voting for this, of course 
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Oct 27, 2017 00:07
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Crazycryodude posted:E: Wait Hashim do we have any current ongoing disasters? The Revolution can't fire if there's another disaster active, we should probably try and fix any currently up. Yeah, don't worry about that. If things go how I think they're gonna go, then it'll take 3 or 4 updates before all the consequences have played out anyways.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:10
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Whole lot of people here with no faith in Al-Andalus. Don't you know this is our golden age???
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Oct 27, 2017 00:47
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Zakrelo posted:Whole lot of people here with no faith in Al-Andalus. Don't you know this is our golden age??? We have faith in Al-Andalus. Just not the Sultan, or the government, or the people
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Oct 27, 2017 00:48
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full islamunism now imo
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Oct 27, 2017 00:49
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So for real though isn't Shia objectively better than Sunni gameplaywise?
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Oct 27, 2017 01:04
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:
Always wanted to join the oubliette faction, glad to have some company
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Oct 27, 2017 02:11
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it's gonna be cool if three out of the four factions embrace seditious legislation while the andalusi diwan pass a laughably irrelevant proposal about book purchases
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Oct 27, 2017 02:18
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I think the Ulema have kind of a weird place in the body because it's less like "here's an influential caucus that can pass their own policy" and more "it's those two weird guys in the corner nobody listens to." Like, should the weakest faction really be setting our religious policy when the most powerful factions are literally toppling and restructuring the government?
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Oct 27, 2017 02:25
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:
I am supporting this, and I can only hope that the official faith of the next regime will be Sunni again.
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Oct 27, 2017 03:14
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Slaan posted:
One does not need mosques to commune with The One. I, Chatrapati ibn Chatrapati, endorse this proposal. Our people shall live lives as austere as Muhammed's (pbuh) in order to learn to live lives as pious as Muhammed's (pbuh).
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Oct 27, 2017 03:15
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:
A companion act to this one: I propose The Burn it to the Ground Act of 1753 1. Take out the maximum amount of loans to be spent however the sultan/administration sees fit 2. If any revolutionary rebels spawn, they are not to be engaged under any circumstance.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:20
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I think it should come as no surprise that the premature execution of our grand vizier has left our government shaken in its organization and has lead to a decrease in stability within it. I think it is no great proclamation either to say that Al-Andalus has a long history of such depositions taking place Therefore I propose The Trial Act - Any upper-level government official (member of the Majlis, for example), or member of the nobility has the right to a fair trial in the presence of the Majlis if accused of a crime. The Majlis will decide the accused's guilt via a simple majority vote. Guilt must be established in this way before any punishment can take place - No man or body, not even the Sultan, has the authority to deny or circumvent this aforementioned right.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:23
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I think we've gone far loving past "ruin it for the challenge" at this point.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:30
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really queer Christmas posted:
Switching to support this E: RZApublican, this isn't "ruin it for the challenge", intentionally handicapping ourselves was what got us here to begin with. This is burning the place down for the insurance money/accelerating the inevitable collapse so we get it over with and can start rebuilding ASAP instead of 50 years from now. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 04:31
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unwantedplatypus posted:I think it should come as no surprise that the premature execution of our grand vizier has left our government shaken in its organization and has lead to a decrease in stability within it. I think it is no great proclamation either to say that Al-Andalus has a long history of such depositions taking place Therefore I propose So no noble will ever be punished if they have enough friends or money? That is some serious revolution bait.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:43
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Zakrelo posted:So no noble will ever be punished if they have enough friends or money? That is some serious revolution bait. Lol if you thought they were really getting punished before, aside from those in open rebellion
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Oct 27, 2017 05:07
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unwantedplatypus posted:Lol if you thought they were really getting punished before, aside from those in open rebellion The Sultan's right to rule is divinely granted by Allah. Any punishment or lack of punishment he made or will make is therefore the right one, unlike the judgements by a menagerie of malevolent Majlis.
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Oct 27, 2017 06:05
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Updated policies:Luhood posted:I propose the Andalusi Reconstruction Act! We are to, in no specific order: Luhood, RZApublican. Lord Cyrahzax posted:The time has long passed for such half measures. Al-Andalus was betrayed during this war, not just by Hishami dogs or the Archduke of Sausage, but by our own Sultan! In a fit of pique and madness, he murdered our Grand Vizier, in the middle of a war! His position inspires every mad pretender and their mercenary legions! No more! The Majlis made a mistake with al-Muhsin, in accepting any Jizrunid to take the throne! I say no more! I propose: Lord Cyrahzax, Frionnel, Rodyle, ThatBasqueGuy, everydayfalls, Snipee. Soup du Jour posted:Proposing the Defense in Depth act, to upgrade all our forts to the highest level as soon as possible starting with those closest to our coastal borders. If possible, we should also have forts in every state at the least. Soup du Jour, GunnerJ. really queer Christmas posted:I propose The Burn it to the Ground Act of 1753 really queer Christmas, Crazycryodude. Talas posted:I propose the gently caress It, Take More Loans Act. Talas, QuoProQuid, Ralepozozaxe, Camoes. MaxieSatan posted:Friends, though I will not endorse their proposals MaxieSatan. Slaan posted:I propose the Godless Heathens Act: Slaan, Chatrapati. AJ_Impy posted:Proposing the Shi'ism isn't working Restoration.: AJ_Impy. paragon1 posted:Hit the Books Act paragon1, Pakled, Danny Glands. mcclay posted:Restoration of Order Act mcclay, Jeoh. unwantedplatypus posted:The Trial Act unwantedplatypus.
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Rodyle posted:So for real though isn't Shia objectively better than Sunni gameplaywise? Unless you're doing a "max cavalry power" build then yes.
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Oct 27, 2017 08:22
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gently caress it, I'm supporting the gently caress It, Take More Loans Act.
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Oct 27, 2017 09:50
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Rodyle posted:So for real though isn't Shia objectively better than Sunni gameplaywise? Yes if you go by pure mechanics, no if you go by our current situation.
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Oct 27, 2017 11:24
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Rodyle posted:So for real though isn't Shia objectively better than Sunni gameplaywise? 100% of the current religious Majil caucus have voted to do away with the Shi’ite ‘reformed Ulema’. If anyone wants to keep it and persist with staying Shi’a, they are keeping pretty quiet about it. When the revolution comes, the Sunni banners will come with it.
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Oct 27, 2017 12:05
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Al-Andalus stock is falling, SELL SELL!
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Oct 27, 2017 12:27
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Islamic Revolution act I propose the Ulema back the upcoming Taifa coup so that the righteous manage to have some say in the new government. Let us pray that The All Seeing will make his will known to the Majlis and they will not ignore it like these godless tyrants have. As the Hadith says: “If a person who is appointed in authority over people, does not look after the people with goodwill and sincerity, he will not get even the aroma of paradise.” The Sultan must go. Glory to God.
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Oct 27, 2017 12:58
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Vinny Possum posted:
You know what, I can work with this. Add in getting rid of the Sultan's unusual religious innovations and I'll back you up.
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Oct 27, 2017 14:16
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If there's a tie-breaker, go with the Islamic Revolution Act. I feel like that's what I would vote for if we were still working with the old Ulema rather than the new.
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Oct 27, 2017 14:51
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This deliberately tanking ourselves is the same poo poo that killed the Denmark LP. 
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Oct 27, 2017 15:56
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I feel like the real, albeit obvious, lesson of these kinds of audience participation LP:s is that goons should never run a country ever.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:This deliberately tanking ourselves is the same poo poo that killed the Denmark LP. That was more the constant infighting and sabotaging each other.
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