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Can someone better versed in the Youtube monetizing algorithm explain why it's gotten so lovely in the last few months? Oops, I swore, there goes my ad revenue.  EDIT: For example, 98Demake isn't a let's player but his videos are constantly flagged by the Youtube monetization algorithm as inappropriate and he loses out on his ad money. It sucks because he puts a lot of effort into his videos but I fear he'll end up quitting altogether if this continues. GenderSelectScreen fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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people are getting tagged for inappropriate language, mostly, like your post would for saying the word 'lovely'. which you are aware of but yeah it's not a mystery at this point. yes, it is bad.
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Oct 27, 2017 16:19
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If you have any language that's bad in the title or description or maybe even your name, you get demonetized. For example, my Resident Evil videos got flagged and I believe it's because they have the word "Evil" in their title.
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Oct 27, 2017 16:47
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judge reinhold posted:If you have any language that's bad in the title or description or maybe even your name, you get demonetized. For example, my Resident Evil videos got flagged and I believe it's because they have the word "Evil" in their title. Q-bert is safe because its already censored.
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Oct 27, 2017 17:38
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Is it fair to say this is all PewDiePie's fault? He's pretty much the representative of YouTube. He does stupid racist poo poo that makes advertisers shy away from using YouTube, so Google overreacts and demonetizes the majority of videos on the site so advertisers can feel like their products aren't being attached to anything bad. Granted, that's a simplification of how everything went down and there were other factors that lead to the problem with sponsors, but really, gently caress PewDiePie. Larry Bundy Jr commented on a couple issues that made his vids ad-unfriendly. A couple standouts were the algorithm not liking the way a 2 looked, and because he used a fade to black. Jamesman fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 18:16
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Q-bert is safe because its already censored. Anything related to Q-bert should be a ban from Youtube because there was a lovely Adam Sandler movie where one of the actors fucks Q-bert.
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Oct 27, 2017 18:24
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Jamesman posted:Is it fair to say this is all PewDiePie's fault? This whole thing was happening before Pewds said the N word, but ever since that it's really gotten bad so i would yes you are correct?
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Oct 27, 2017 19:02
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PhazonLink posted:Anything related to Q-bert should be a ban from Youtube because there was a lovely Adam Sandler movie where one of the actors fucks Q-bert. Uhhhh... But... Ah gently caress it 
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Oct 27, 2017 19:04
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:This whole thing was happening before Pewds said the N word, but ever since that it's really gotten bad so i would yes you are correct? Before the N word, but after he paid people to hold up a sign that said "Death to all Jews." Like I said, there were other factors (people bringing it to the attention of advertisers that their commercials were showing before hateful/violent/disgusting videos), but I think his actions were the catalyst for everything because he's synonymous with YouTube.
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Oct 27, 2017 19:52
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Jamesman posted:Is it fair to say this is all PewDiePie's fault? It was actually because ads were playing on extremist videos.
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Oct 27, 2017 20:41
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Can someone better versed in the Youtube monetizing algorithm explain why it's gotten so lovely in the last few months? Math and numbers are not people. This is something Youtube can never fathom. Its trying to run an algorithm to catch poo poo like that; but the algorithm only sees a numbers and a binary yes or no answer rather than be able to judge on a case by case basis, such as context and the quality of the content itself. Youtube is probably going pure algorithm because it's cheaper to maintain and because asking a person to sit down and review everything that comes into that site would be an introduction to a violent drinking problem. If it was as simple as a rule that "don't say the N word" or "don't slam women with misogynistic bullshit", that alone would be the easy open and shut case unless your name is Felix Kjellberg. Unfortunately, because it's run by an algorithm, the drat thing can't determine one from the other. So the math is completely hosed up too in addition to what it's supposed to be doing. It's like you said, I've seen people get hit on videos for opening loot boxes or just talking about a game even with no swears in it whatsoever. Part and parcel is simply trying to automate the system for their convenience and appeasing their advertisers and making GBS threads on that. Another part of it is simply that to content creators, they're not really clear on what would constitute a direct violation. Despite what sounds like a clear contradiction to my earlier post, it doesn't seem to follow a consistent pattern for the most part. Some dudes who are vile and vulgar avoid getting hit while others who just talk about something like "terrifying objectification of women seen in anime" would get hit for it. With no direct word from Mt.Youtubius on what the hell they'e supposed to avoid (aside from the common, no-brainer subjects), it seems that the algorithm hits a channel with atrocious accuracy. Jamesman posted:Is it fair to say this is all PewDiePie's fault? As much as I'd shovel the blame on him; I know I've said dumb poo poo too in the past (nowhere even close to his level, mind you but advertisers would have stricter standards I'd imagine); I'd foster the blame on the shittier ones, but it's as someone else posted: blood's on everyone's hands. His, the extremists, the goofergate clowns, manipulators, etc. While this was a problem beforehand, now that it's on a face that Youtube exclusively backed; they're going to be doing mad damage control; emphasis on Mad.
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Oct 30, 2017 01:17
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It's honestly been in the cards for a loooooong time. Youtube mismanages the gently caress out of pretty much every system possible on the website and it was only a matter of time til they started adding new things to screw up. Google in general is an awful company that can't manage to do anything right, and only succeeds in how deep they got their internet presence made before they started screwing up. It's basically the same sort of thing for every popular computer thing. "Why does everyone have it if it sucks?" Because it used to be good and now everyone's stuck. edit: lol someone actually got their feelings hurt so bad they paid money for it
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Oct 30, 2017 02:42
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If I say the n word a lot will that stop nintendo from monetizing my videos N word N word N word!
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Oct 30, 2017 23:57
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Oh man my day was made when my youtube recommendations included a new series of Men Quaffin Elixirs hell yes
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Oct 31, 2017 15:23
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Calaveron posted:Oh man my day was made when my youtube recommendations included a new series of Men Quaffin Elixirs hell yes Fantastic! It's always great to hear No Internet Name Anthony again.
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Oct 31, 2017 16:15
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Ramos posted:Fantastic! It's always great to hear No Internet Name Anthony again. Watch their recent Comedy Night videos. That was a magical journey. Random operatic skeleton was a highlight.
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Oct 31, 2017 16:30
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Apparently there will be no Wolfenstein 2 playthrough on Vinesauce because he didn't want to piss off his chat by playing it. I wonder why. 
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Nov 5, 2017 16:16
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Pollyanna posted:Apparently there will be no Wolfenstein 2 playthrough on Vinesauce because he didn't want to piss off his chat by playing it. I wonder why. You say "apparently", which implies a source. Also Vinny isn't really one to ever listen to his chat anyway so I'm curious
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Nov 5, 2017 16:24
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Angry_Ed posted:You say "apparently", which implies a source. Also Vinny isn't really one to ever listen to his chat anyway so I'm curious Source: some Nazi's Youtube comment. I agree with you, now that my initial annoyance has worn off - he'll play it if he wants to. Also, I doubt he's in the mood to agree with his chat after dealing with Cry of Fear.
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Nov 5, 2017 16:28
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Pollyanna posted:Source: some Nazi's Youtube comment. I agree with you, now that my initial annoyance has worn off - he'll play it if he wants to. Also, I doubt he's in the mood to agree with his chat after dealing with Cry of Fear. What happened with Cry of Fear?
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Nov 5, 2017 21:39
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Max Wilco posted:What happened with Cry of Fear? AFAICT it was heavily recommended by chat not because it was good or anything but because it was a staple of horror game streamers, and he was hyped up for something cool and fun to play but instead really disliked it. To be fair, the other half of chat that didn't recommend it loving hated it and wished it would end quickly. Honestly, I believe in collaborative natures and communicating with your audience, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
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Nov 5, 2017 21:54
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Cry of Fear was really good at one time but that time has pretty well passed it by. It's still neat for being an ambitious project done in source, but it's no longer some amazing thing.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:05
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Yardbomb posted:Cry of Fear was really good at one time but that time has pretty well passed it by. It's still neat for being an ambitious project done in source, but it's no longer some amazing thing. Even then, though. Not even ~2012 can excuse limited inventory, poor level design, and a hackneyed story.
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Nov 5, 2017 22:10
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Pollyanna posted:Even then, though. Not even ~2012 can excuse limited inventory, poor level design, and a hackneyed story. Or reloading using up the rest of a clip.
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Nov 6, 2017 04:13
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There was a lovely game LP thread a year or two ago where someone here did Cry of Fear. Back when it released it was pretty cool because there wasn't a whole lot else like it on the market, but in retrospect it's awful. Most of the scares are just really loud jump scares and it's got some godawful level design, like that train escape that's nearly impossible to beat if you're not great at FPS platforming and know the route to take.
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chitoryu12 posted:There was a lovely game LP thread a year or two ago where someone here did Cry of Fear. Back when it released it was pretty cool because there wasn't a whole lot else like it on the market, but in retrospect it's awful. Most of the scares are just really loud jump scares and it's got some godawful level design, like that train escape that's nearly impossible to beat if you're not great at FPS platforming and know the route to take. If you want a lesson in bad game design, I can also recommend the free precursor mod for half life 1, Afraid of Monsters. Lots of Find button-backtrack-find button-unmarked path split leading to different endings. Or go whole hog and play Half-quake, but at least that was intentional. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Nov 6, 2017 |
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Nov 6, 2017 15:39
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the lowest of taxes also had an entire saga with it which helps its legend around this dead gay internet forum
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DSP fails at life once again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHA6pYcsTgk "DSP finally reveals that he owes the state of Washington several thousand dollars for neglecting to pay taxes for his business. DSP also backpedals on calling it a business because of this."
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Nov 24, 2017 23:59
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Leal posted:Thats quitter talk Tax Attorney: hosed up his taxes and is the reason he has to pay back taxes
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Nov 25, 2017 00:31
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TaurusOxford posted:DSP fails at life once again: What a fuckin' putz.
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Nov 25, 2017 00:37
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I'll at least say that the instigating event that started the investigation wasn't his fault if he is to be believed. However everything that came after clearly is. He can't claim that he wasn't running a business when he has multitudes of videos with him saying otherwise. He even has business class internet that's separate from his regular internet. This might be the thing that brings him down considering that he has no where near the cash flow to cover whatever the back taxes were if it indeed comes to that. As for selling the house I don't think that's going to help since the only way to get any money out of that is to sell the house for more than is owed to the bank. Which probably isn't that large of a profit at the moment.
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Nov 25, 2017 00:48
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Making a youtube video about this seems like a bad idea.
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Nov 25, 2017 01:05
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Hypocrisy posted:Making a youtube video about this seems like a bad idea. Phil isn't exactly known for his good ideas. We're talking about a guy who proposed to his girlfriend and then immediately went on social media saying that he has no intention of actually marrying her in any sort of near-future, basically confirming that the engagement was a relationship band-aid.
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Nov 25, 2017 01:17
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In unrelated news: Youtube and Twitch content creators realize that they built their castle on a swamp and are starting to panic.
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Nov 25, 2017 12:27
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There's a Monty Python and the Holy Grail joke in here somewhere, I swear...
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Nov 25, 2017 13:47
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Michaellaneous posted:In unrelated news: Youtube and Twitch content creators realize that they built their castle on a swamp and are starting to panic. How so?
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Nov 25, 2017 14:14
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Samovar posted:How so? Do you mean the castle or the panic part?
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Nov 25, 2017 14:25
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Give it a bit, no one explains things from the beginning.
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Nov 25, 2017 14:26
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Net neutrality I assume. In other thread related news, the New Yorker of all places did a piece about the business of video game streaming on Twitch for their tech issue. (I discovered this while visiting my parents for Thanksgiving.) None of its likely to be a revelation for anyone who posts in this thread but there's something kinda amazing about a professional journalist talking to a CEO about building his business around idiot teens who scream 'cuck' into the microphone. Rangpur fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Michaellaneous posted:Do you mean the castle or the panic part? You've not mentioned the trigger for this new wave of panic at all. Could be ads being pulled, it could be ad unfriendly flags, it could be some banning, content ID, anything at all.
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