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Same problem here in Melbourne, Australia, for the last three days. Haven't been able to connect with the app at all in that time. I've had occasional Awful app connection issues over the few years I've been using the app, but only lasting hours tops, never lasting this long before. Switching between WiFi and my phone provider's internet doesn't help. Browsing SA forums in Firefox on the phone works just fine.
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I don't have any issues, but I saw that Android Webview had an update a few days ago, maybe that did something?
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Oct 28, 2017 18:10
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baka kaba posted:The site runs through a service called Cloudflare, which sits between us and SA and does stuff like content delivery. Usually that's transparent, but if there's some kind of issue it means you'll get some kind of Cloudflare stuff on the page, or just a whole Cloudflare error page and no SA content at all I'm in the northeast US, and the issue persists on data and WiFi. The site is accessible on my phone's browser, if any of that helps.
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Oct 28, 2017 18:13
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Uninformed spitballing: Any chance the Forums (via CloudFlare?) recently bumped some SSL config off the accepted list? Does Awful.apk somehow look like a bot and CloudFlare/the Forums is blocking just the app's requests?
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Oct 28, 2017 18:21
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It's working fine for me down in Arkansas, and I'm posting from the app right now. Both on data and wifi. Samsung Galaxy S6 running Android 7.0 and Awful 3.3.1
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Oct 28, 2017 18:24
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Yeah, working just fine in northern California for me on a Pixel 2.
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Oct 28, 2017 18:28
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Daztek posted:I don't have any issues, but I saw that Android Webview had an update a few days ago, maybe that did something? That could cause issues (with displaying posts, not loading thread lists) but as far as I'm aware WebView updates are Lollipop+ only, so it can't be that with all these KitKats pokeyman posted:Uninformed spitballing: Uhh maybe?? Those are definitely worth looking at, not that I can actually check if it fixes things It's just weird that it's not happening to everyone. Maybe there's some local blocking going on, or if there's an SSL change it's slowly rolling out and will consume us all If nothing else maybe we can get a patch out that dumps as much info as possible and try and work out what's going on. Urghhhh Anyone getting this on Lollipop or above? baka kaba fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Oct 28, 2017 |
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Oct 28, 2017 18:36
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At the risk of adding white noise, just in case this is helpful: Droid Turbo on Android 6.0.1 in FL no problems. I stopped following technical poo poo in loving DOS so good luck with reading entrails and chanting to the moon or however the gently caress this stuff works.
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Oct 28, 2017 18:39
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The problem is happening for me on 4.4.4. It started at the same time as everybody else, about 3 days ago.
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Oct 28, 2017 19:50
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Gimbal lock posted:The problem is happening for me on 4.4.4. It started at the same time as everybody else, about 3 days ago. Hmmm thanks, I reckon Pokeymans might be onto something here
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Oct 28, 2017 19:55
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I'm in the same boat as some of you. I'm on 4.4.4 and the browser works just fine. The app hasn't worked in a couple days. Maybe this is what I need to goad myself into unrooting and upgrading finally. 
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Oct 28, 2017 20:17
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I ran the SSL Labs tests and it looks like the forums don't support anything below TLS 1.2 now: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=forums.somethingawful.com&s=104.27.188.15 https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=forums.somethingawful.com&s=104.27.189.15 Expanding the section for "# Not simulated clients (Protocol mismatch)" shows Android 4.3 and earlier failing the handshake, not supporting anything newer than TLS 1.0. I imagine the browsers still work because they package their own TLS implementation that's more up to date than what's in the core OS.
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Oct 28, 2017 20:53
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baka kaba posted:Weird, are they both on wifi? Is it Loading Failed on everything (thread view, thread lists, PMs)?
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Oct 28, 2017 20:57
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^^^ thanks! It's looking like an all-round connection thing at this pointpairofdimes posted:I ran the SSL Labs tests and it looks like the forums don't support anything below TLS 1.2 now: Oh cheers, I asked ZDR about that but I wasn't at a computer to check 4.1 and up do support TLS 1.2 but it's not enabled by default, hopefully we can just enable it in the network library and it'll fix things baka kaba fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 28, 2017 |
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Oct 28, 2017 21:04
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So I guess it's not just me. I have 4.4.2, doesn't work on wifi or LTE, and am in Canada if that helps at all.
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Oct 28, 2017 21:37
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Jesus Christ guys, Android 4.x.x is ancient. You should probably get a new phone without security flaws from a couple years ago. Awful APK not working should be the least of your concerns.
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Oct 28, 2017 21:42
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^^^ You're probably right. I'm on 4.4.4 too. Ancient Droid that won't update. I'm looking for a new phone, but all the ones that work on my network are either enormous or cost $600.
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Oct 28, 2017 22:20
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my phone is only three years old thats not ancient haha
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Oct 28, 2017 22:23
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GlyphGryph posted:my phone is only three years old thats not ancient haha I don't know what phone you have but 4.4 came out almost exactly 4 years ago which is extremely ancient in phone software terms. Are you sure you don't have any OS updates available?
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Oct 28, 2017 22:45
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You're not wrong, of course. I'm still using a Nexus 5, which I can certainly upgrade to 6.x or something but I've been putting it off since it would be a pain in the rear end to unroot it so I could. I've thought about replacing it, but I had my eye on the Pixel 2 XL and haven't been very encouraged by the reception.
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Oct 28, 2017 22:59
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I try a Jelly Bean emulator and immediately get an announcements popup with the SSL error explaining the problem. See, the announcements popup is the best
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Oct 28, 2017 23:03
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Is this a resolvable issue, or are older androids just hosed? I'm following what's been said more or less but I don't understand the implications. For my phone and carrier there's apparently no way to upgrade beyond 4.4.4 and I'm not going to buy a dumb new phone when this one's only 3 years old and works fine for everything otherwise, especially if something like this will just happen again in a few years.
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Oct 28, 2017 23:25
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I'm not a dev so I can't speak to whether it's resolvable or not, but in general these types of problems will continue to crop up. Unfortunately mobile software is still relatively young compared to, say, Windows, and it's updating a lot faster as a result. Good if you like new stuff but phones go obsolete pretty fast. The good news is that it's slowing down, it used to be that you were screwed even if your phone was just a year old, so I wouldn't say it's just a permanent thing you'll have to deal with forever.
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Oct 28, 2017 23:43
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GlyphGryph posted:my phone is only three years old thats not ancient haha 3 year old phones that were budget phones at the time are in fact ancient. Get a new budget phone and plan to every 2 years.
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Oct 29, 2017 00:59
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Eiba posted:Is this a resolvable issue, or are older androids just hosed? Basically stuff on the internet can use this more secure kind of connection, and it looks like SA is requiring it now. Older devices can support it, but they don't by default, which is why they're falling over now it's required. We'll get it working if we can - the app supports back to Jelly Bean for that  experience
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Oct 29, 2017 01:10
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baka kaba posted:Basically stuff on the internet can use this more secure kind of connection, and it looks like SA is requiring it now. Older devices can support it, but they don't by default, which is why they're falling over now it's required. We'll get it working if we can - the app supports back to Jelly Bean for that And since I never had the occasion to track down the fine folks who made this app to begin with, thanks for making the app in the first place! Regardless of it works in the future, I've been very happily using it for years. Internet Explorer posted:3 year old phones that were budget phones at the time are in fact ancient. Get a new budget phone and plan to every 2 years.  I'll get a new phone when this one fails catastrophically and not a day before. Not being able to browse SA in a nice app is annoying, but not $100 annoying.
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I'm not sure if this helps, but the app also works on my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 4th gen running Fire OS 5.4.0.1 on wifi.
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Oct 29, 2017 02:48
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vortmax posted:I'm not sure if this helps, but the app also works on my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 4th gen running Fire OS 5.4.0.1 on wifi. That version of Fire OS is based on Android 5.0, so it checks out.
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Oct 29, 2017 03:36
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Eiba posted:Seems like a solid "maybe". Glad to hear it. Good luck! Just be aware you're using a phone that's full of security issues.
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Oct 29, 2017 05:31
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Please don't reduce the security of the app to support lovely old Android versions, thanks.
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Oct 29, 2017 08:43
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Eiba posted:Is this a resolvable issue, or are older androids just hosed? Also your phone is probably vulnerable to all kinds of poo poo like broadpwn, blueborne, krack and possibly even stagefright. Yeah all those vulnerability names are dumb as gently caress but tl;dr your phone can be hacked like a porn star in a triple penetration scene so enjoy your malware I guess.
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Eiba posted:No. I've never met a techno anti-vaxxer until now.
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Expecting people in various states of financial security to get a new multi-hundred dollar device every 2 years when the one they have still works perfectly fine is hard sell. This is an issue with all kinds of tech but especially the fast updating world of phones. Yes, I know the reasons why this is a problem, but it's a problem on both sides.
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Mine is super outdated, but as far as smartphone users go I'm like an 80 year old who never hosed with the thing beyond its most basic functions which all work totally fine and I'm poor af right now so replacing it isn't on my list of priorities, so here's hoping the app can get sorted out, if not I'm cool with my place in the dead past 
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Oct 29, 2017 09:46
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Scudworth posted:Expecting people in various states of financial security to get a new multi-hundred dollar device every 2 years when the one they have still works perfectly fine is hard sell. This is an issue with all kinds of tech but especially the fast updating world of phones. But it doesn't work perfectly fine. If it worked perfectly fine they wouldn't be complaining about something they use frequently not working... It's like when people claim their car works perfectly fine, just don't drive it under 20 mph or over 50 mph for longer than absolutely necessary, make sure to replace the oil every 2 weeks when it leaks out, and oh by the way both passenger side doors don't open anymore and the tires are bald. spankmeister posted:Please don't reduce the security of the app to support lovely old Android versions, thanks. That's not what would be happening though, it would instead be activating heightened security that's not already enabled by default on certain phones.
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Scudworth posted:Expecting people in various states of financial security to get a new multi-hundred dollar device every 2 years when the one they have still works perfectly fine is hard sell. This is an issue with all kinds of tech but especially the fast updating world of phones. It doesn't work perfectly fine, obviously. e:f,b
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The SA app doesn't work and there are security issues yet to affect you personally is still well within perfectly fine for most user needs. A 4 year old phone is not a crumbling car metaphor. And I realize this has already proved redundant to try and point out within the gadget subforum, but there is a significant % of people who consider their phone to be a very low priority for spending money on, even if it is getting a bit laggy or one app doesn't work anymore. Scudworth fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Scudworth posted:The SA app doesn't work and there are security issues yet to affect you personally is still well within perfectly fine for most user needs. A 4 year old phone is not a crumbling car metaphor. Sure is when people bought phones that were already poo poo the day they bought them, and could only go downhill from there. They really do barely work, and sure people get used to the crappy performance and don't expect anything more, but people get used to their 1991 Geo Metro they bought in 2000 too. Like it's the equivalent of having picked up a cheap used XP system in like 2009 with several critical components that never get Windows Vista or higher drivers, making it effectively impossible to upgrade. You'll do ok for a bit, sure, but stuff is going to start breaking quickly that wasn't already infeasible due to the hardware. Look, we live in a a world where smartphones are sold new for $50 that can at least run Android 5.1.1 officially. Like, the Galaxy Core Prime, it's hardly a good phone, it's from 2014 and was always budget, but it's $50 new and does 5.1.1 and that's pretty good if whatever cheap phone you have doesn't work properly with encryption anymore. And phones like the ZTE Citrine are being flogged refurbished for $30 flat out across a lot of the prepaid carriers. This is all ignoring just picking up the flagship model of 2 years ago on ebay and when they're down around $100 or less, especially with minor cosmetic damage. Scudworth posted:there are security issues yet to affect you personally But this is the crumbling car thing. Simply avoid doing 9 different things a normal car owner might never think of and then the car's fine. Keep your phone's wifi and bluetooth disabled indefinitely to avoid issues and also don't ever download anything new and you're fine! And most importantly it's all stuff that can start affecting you at any time. Just like all the hosed up stuff on a beat up used car.
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drat I guess my phone is too old. I don't know anything about android numbers but I checked and it says my os is 4.4.4 the app didn't work and I couldn't access SA on the "Internet" browser on my phone but it did work on Chrome on my phone. But the text isn't the right size and it hurts my eyes I spent some time googling about updating the OS and looking at new phones and I realize I don't understand what's going on. I used to be ok with basic computer stuff but this is beyond me now. I guess I am officially old :/ better ask my younger relatives what phone I should buy
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Ein cooler Typ posted:drat I guess my phone is too old. I don't know anything about android numbers but I checked and it says my os is 4.4.4 Are you in America? Are you on a budget? Then buy the Moto G5+ with 4GB of RAM for $240 with Amazon ads. It's a pretty good phone at a really good price that will get regular* security updates. If you need cheaper than that or are outside of America, come to the Recommend a phone thread and tell us where you are and how much you have to spend and we'll point you in the right direction. The fact is there are many, many secure and maintained phones that are affordable and no one should be using anything still on Android 4 or below. Every modern Android has a WebView that can be updated independently of the OS and most new phones get security patches independent of the carrier for issues that are related to the US. There's no reason to host a Chinese bitcoin mining botnet in your pocket. *"regular" meaning about quarterly rather than monthly
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