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Grittybeard posted:I mean Venables is a good 5-10 years past where he should have gotten a head coaching job. It'd be a good hire, but he either interviews like crap or doesn't want a HC job yet. A lot of people said that about Kirby. Maybe he has a really short list of schools he would actually leave for.
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So I'm pretty sure Malzahn might have lucked himself into another year with all of these SEC opening that look likely. I think it's all going to come down to the A&M game for him. I think if Auburn wins Sumlin is fired and Auburn waits for a more stable year to look for a new head coach. If Auburn loses I think they have to beat Georgia and Alabama for him to save his job and I don't see that happening.
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Frankly we probably won't hire him, but I'd be remiss if I didn't want to Frost as revenge for the 1997 Fiesta Bowl. The midwest flood of nebraska tears would be intractable and disastrous. Or gently caress it, let's just hire Niumatalolo and see what he can do with Florida croots
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KKKLIP ART posted:A lot of people said that about Kirby. Maybe he has a really short list of schools he would actually leave for. I think that would make sense. Being around a ton of Clemson folks, I know there’s a mentality that he’s just waiting for Kansas State if he were to leave. If Florida came calling that may change that though. It’s just one of those jobs that if you can get it you may as well go for it (even with recent events). At the same time, I don’t know if Florida folks would want to “settle” on a coordinator if Frost and Mullen are the initial chatter.
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Venables wants the KState job and would be the perfect compromise candidate for both Synder and KState
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Duckaerobics posted:So I'm pretty sure Malzahn might have lucked himself into another year with all of these SEC opening that look likely. I think it's all going to come down to the A&M game for him. I think if Auburn wins Sumlin is fired and Auburn waits for a more stable year to look for a new head coach. If Auburn loses I think they have to beat Georgia and Alabama for him to save his job and I don't see that happening.
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You all know very well that Bill Snyder will live forever, and I'm sure in the back of his mind, Venables knows it too.
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Big Piece O poo poo posted:Florida has to take a big swing here. The thing about the McElwain hire was that even those who liked the hire would admit that it was profoundly boring and safe. There's an enthusiasm deficit right now and the program needs a shiny new face to lead it. I don't think they'll get that from Dan "Mr. 8-4" Mullen or Charlie Strong. He goes 8-4 at Missippi State, man. They were garbage before he got there. And if Florida fans were happy to lose him they were dumb as hell. Or maybe you really enjoyed the playcalling of Steve Addazio Strong would be a dumb hire, I agree on that. He inherited a loaded team, and after Texas (where he genuinely did an awful job, no matter how mean boosters were to him) I'd want to see an extended run out of him at USF before I gave him another big job MourningView fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Mullen's got really little reason to leave Miss. State and Stricklin is probably happy to be done dealing with him.
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DJExile posted:Mullen's got really little reason to leave Miss. State and Stricklin is probably happy to be done dealing with him. This.
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/darrenheitner/status/924450026700537856 Mullen would be a boring hire but it is hard to tell what his ceiling would be at a program that gets top 10 talent. I would prefer a different style of spread though, because Mullen's offense strikes me as overly dependent on a heroic juggernaut QB. Stoops is the only guy they should be considering in the category of "Former DC who needs to make a good OC hire".
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MourningView posted:He goes 8-4 at Missippi State, man. They were garbage before he got there. And if Florida fans were happy to lose him they were dumb as hell. Or maybe you really enjoyed the playcalling of Steve Addazio I was ready to hire Mullen after Muschamp.
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Komet posted:I guess Joe Moorhead's stock crashed last night Whether he takes it is a different story, he might be wait for a bigger opportunity, since he's in a good position to wait. But thinking that an OC's stock crashed after losing 39-38 to a top-5 team is loving hilarious.
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Hmm, yes, Bob Stoops, who retired to save his own life, yes, he's going to come coach Florida
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Wait poo poo, this was McElwain's third year at Florida? I guess I really wrote 2016 out of my memory.
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Pakled posted:Please please please hire him away from Clemson Yeah, this is really overdue and needs to happen.
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tactlessbastard posted:Hmm, yes, Bob Stoops, who retired to save his own life, yes, he's going to come coach Florida Hmm, yes, Urban Meyer, who retired to save his own life, yes, he's going to come coach Ohio State
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swickles posted:Hmm, yes, Urban Meyer, who retired to save his own life, yes, he's going to come coach Ohio State Lol
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DJExile posted:Mullen's got really little reason to leave Miss. State and Stricklin is probably happy to be done dealing with him. His reason would be to go to a school where he can actually get enough talent to win something meaningful. And to not be stuck in Starkville. Lasagna Pilot posted:Mullen would be a boring hire but it is hard to tell what his ceiling would be at a program that gets top 10 talent. I would prefer a different style of spread though, because Mullen's offense strikes me as overly dependent on a heroic juggernaut QB. Mullen has done a pretty good job or finding or developing those guys throughout his career. Nobody was beating down the door for Dak Prescott or Nick Fitzgerald but they turned out pretty good for Mullen. swickles posted:Hmm, yes, Urban Meyer, who retired to save his own life, yes, he's going to come coach Ohio State Urban Meyer is a dirty lying shitbird and I don't think Stoops is. Also, Stoops probably didn't really leave to avoid uncomfortable questions about his mass murdering tight end.
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Stoops is also about a decade older than Urban Meyer was when he came back. Ten years can make a big difference in how dramatic the changes you need to make to preserve your health might be.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:His reason would be to go to a school where he can actually get enough talent to win something meaningful. And to not be stuck in Starkville. He is paid $4.5 million to cruise through a division where nothing matters while Saban is at Bama. He's also a terrible interview. There's more than a few reasons he's been at Starkville for so long.
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ESPN's saying it's official now http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21215201/florida-gators-head-coach-jim-mcelwain-part-ways
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DJExile posted:He is paid $5,000,000 to cruise through a division where nothing matters while Saban is at Bama. He's also a terrible interview. There's more than a few reasons he's been at Starkville for so long. Your argument was “why would he leave Starkville” and the answer is “he would, and he’s tried in the past, he just hasn’t gotten an offer.”
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Your argument was “why would he leave Starkville” and the answer is “he would, and he’s tried in the past, he just hasn’t gotten an offer.” Yeah i should have explained that better. He's tried to leave before but I think at this point he's pretty comfortable where he's at. He's basically a god to Miss. State and he himself has hosed up previous attempts to leave anyway. I'd imagine he's pretty well planted at this point. E: Moreover, I'd imagine Stricklin wants to hire someone himself at this point. I don't think Stricklin was the full time AD at Miss State yet when they hired Mullen. DJExile fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Georgia hosed themselves by running McElwain out IMO. Gotta think long game.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Your argument was “why would he leave Starkville” and the answer is “he would, and he’s tried in the past, he just hasn’t gotten an offer.” Yeah i don't get why people think he wouldn't leave; he's interviewed for other jobs several times. He has a pretty good thing going there but obviously he's not opposed to the idea of leaving for a higher ceiling job. He's mostly still there because he's an awful interview by all accounts.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:Georgia hosed themselves by running McElwain out IMO. Gotta think long game. It's why Saban doesn't beat deadbeat coach by 70, imo.
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It seems someone was forced into action today. https://twitter.com/mikegriffith32/status/924722769572573185
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I was really hoping Florida losing to UAB was going to be the end for Mac. Oh well.
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Mouse Cadet posted:Mizzou 2014 was pretty bad. Down 42-0 at home at halftime. We kept Muschamp around for a few more games but it was over for him at that point. The Missouri game was bad, but at the time it really felt like Muschamp would've kept his job had Spurrier not beaten him in The Swamp. Foley and parts of the media were still rooting for him until it was absolutely clear he couldn't stay. In comparison, McElwain's support just evaporated. I really hope Florida can win the knife fight with Nebraska for Scott Frost. Right now, I don't see a downside to hiring him other than that.
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I guess I'm okay with Frost but can somebody reassure me that it isn't another potential Mac? Good OC has great offense at major program and then does well as HC at a mid-major.
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Looking at Frost.... Man, his best win ever is like, vs Memphis
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an adult beverage posted:I guess I'm okay with Frost but can somebody reassure me that it isn't another potential Mac? Good OC has great offense at major program and then does well as HC at a mid-major.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Wonder how much of his buyout he ends up with $11 million or so
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Summary of potential hires https://twitter.com/onlygators/status/924748896437506048
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an adult beverage posted:I guess I'm okay with Frost but can somebody reassure me that it isn't another potential Mac? Good OC has great offense at major program and then does well as HC at a mid-major. He is the right sort of hire but far from a sure thing, would not put him at the top of the list. People get a little too excited about the Win-Loss records of these coaches that go to the mid majors with a talent advantage. Improving Syracuse or Miss State or Purdue is much trickier than winning at USF or Houston. UCF was bad last year so that part looks good for Frost, but they still look like a team that has a bunch of overlooked 3* FL recruits that panned out.
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