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The Management posted:lol if you think anyone at google has thought about the nexus 5x in the last few years. Well it's still up on the nexus store so hey
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“my iPhone is tooootally slower after the new iOS update  Apple is loving us again  planned obsolescence!!! ”meanwhile android phones stop getting updates within a few months of release (18 months if you’re lucky) and often the hardware physically stops working within a year.
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Doc Block posted:“my iPhone is tooootally slower after the new iOS update I barely use my phone, I only got the Nexus 5 because I wanted to get Google Fi for data when I'm in Europe
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Oct 29, 2017 23:04
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Doc Block posted:my iPhone is tooootally slower after the new iOS update the biggest reason why android is a fail choice
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Oct 29, 2017 23:15
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*preorders iPhone X for over $1000*
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actionjackson posted:*preorders iPhone X for over $1000* or.... you can just pick up an iphone 8 which doesn't cost $1000
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akadajet posted:or.... I mean yeah, but my Nexus 5X was like $250 unlocked when I bought it a couple years ago
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buy a new, base model car? but my 99 Saturn only cost $500 
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The last good American car
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*Tim Cook takes a poo poo on stage* *Goons rush to preorder his feces*
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Why are there really only two choices in smartphone OS's anyway?
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actionjackson posted:Why are there really only two choices in smartphone OS's anyway? because Palm thought that launching a new platform on Verizon, the carrier that most people used, was a bad idea.
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Verizon is very demanding about interfering with what goes on it’s network so it makes sense that nobody wanted to put anything new out on it
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hobbesmaster posted:Verizon is very demanding about interfering with what goes on it’s network so it makes sense that nobody wanted to put anything new out on it They wouldn't let the iPhone on their network until they saw what a success the 3GS was and realized they'd lose a ton of customers if they didn't get the 4.
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windows had multiple OS changes, where previous apps were incompatible, so they never really secured a sliver of market share. blackberry was very incompetently managed, they dug their head in the sand and thought the iPhone was impossible. a garbage java monolith. no one else had their poo poo together to the same degree, the time of every phone having their own OS was not long to live and isn’t so attractive to developers. HP killed webos but palm failed to compete anyways. tizen along with enlightenment is insanely terrible https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/15001/enlightened
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actionjackson posted:*preorders iPhone X for over $1000* yes, it will outlast dollar equivalent of android phones, especially os or security updates
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cinci zoo sniper posted:yes, it will outlast dollar equivalent of android phones, especially os or security updates Or, until the next iPhone comes out and you buy that because newer = better, even if your current phone works perfectly fine
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actionjackson posted:Or, until the next iPhone comes out and you buy that because newer = better, even if your current phone works perfectly fine
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not unique to Apple, but iPhones keep value so who cares. in any case you could get an SE for a couple hundred bucks and be good for years
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actionjackson posted:Why are there really only two choices in smartphone OS's anyway? because windows phone failed to take off despite being better than android in every conceivable way still wasn't as good as ios tho
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akadajet posted:because windows phone failed to take off despite being better than android in every conceivable way
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back when android was a stuttery mess (and it still kind of is) windows phone was blazingly fast and the only real competitor to ios in terms of ui responsiveness
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cinci zoo sniper posted:or you just don't do that I just think it's weird to talk about phones "outlasting" each other when most people will upgrade to another phone far before their current one needs to be replaced. I got my Nexus phone like 2.5 years ago and outside of some apps slowing down a bit recently I haven't had any issues with it. I'm not sure if this is related to Oreo or not. actionjackson fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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developing a mobile phone system (os, hardware, online services) is such an expensive thing to do that only a handful massive companies are able to do it with the kind of success that lets them keep going with it after a decade and somehow (i'm at "b_llmer," if someone wants to buy a vowel) microsoft wasn't able to be one of them
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Cocoa Crispies posted:and somehow (i'm at "b_llmer," if someone wants to buy a vowel) microsoft wasn't able to be one of them More like G_tes and N_dell_, because B_llmer's plan was to sink billions into becoming a proper first party phone hardware manufacturer. N_dell_ and G_tes decided to just focus on the cloud instead.
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Fiedler posted:More like G_tes and N_dell_, because B_llmer's plan was to sink billions into becoming a proper first party phone hardware manufacturer. N_dell_ and G_tes decided to just focus on the cloud instead. nah, ballmer was in charge from 2000 (when smartphones were mostly not a thing) to 2014 (just before windows pho 8.1), and just didn't have the vision to do anything beyond basically the same reaction as palm ("PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in.") or blackberry (thinking it was witchcraft) nadella was right to kill windows phone because by 2014 it was obvious that nobody but noxious IT shitbags wanted anything to do with microsoft so they'd just focus exclusively on that
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actionjackson posted:I just think it's weird to talk about phones "outlasting" each other when most people will upgrade to another phone far before their current one needs to be replaced. I got my Nexus phone like 2.5 years ago and outside of some apps slowing down a bit recently I haven't had any issues with it. I'm not sure if this is related to Oreo or not. I’m a tech nerd with disposable income and buy a good phone for myself whenever I want to because I like having the best phone. I also buy phones for my parents and they use them for three or four years because they don’t care about phones. so having no-garbage phones that will last and also that can safely download apps without being instantly malware infested is important to me.
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Fiedler posted:More like G_tes and N_dell_, because B_llmer's plan was to sink billions into becoming a proper first party phone hardware manufacturer. N_dell_ and G_tes decided to just focus on the cloud instead. ballmer’s plan was not going to work, it was a giant money pit and nokia windows phones were not getting any traction. they blew billions with nothing to show for it. nadella is actually succeeding in selling Microsoft software and services on iOS and android instead of trying to force the windows ecosystem on phones and developers.
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actionjackson posted:Why are there really only two choices in smartphone OS's anyway? tizen
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I'll admit the iPhone SE looks interesting, I originally switched to Android because it was easier to customize the appearance (like with Nova launcher) and I liked having the choice of various phone manufacturers instead of just Apple. Is there data service on the iPhone that is similar to how Google Fi works on Android? Because that's a pretty good deal as it includes data in (most) of the rest of the world and I never pay more than $30/month
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actionjackson posted:Is there data service on the iPhone that is similar to how Google Fi works on Android? Because that's a pretty good deal as it includes data in (most) of the rest of the world and I never pay more than $30/month no lol
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The Management posted:ballmer’s plan was not going to work, it was a giant money pit and nokia windows phones were not getting any traction. they blew billions with nothing to show for it. nadella is actually succeeding in selling Microsoft software and services on iOS and android instead of trying to force the windows ecosystem on phones and developers.
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actionjackson posted:I'll admit the iPhone SE looks interesting, I originally switched to Android because it was easier to customize the appearance (like with Nova launcher) and I liked having the choice of various phone manufacturers instead of just Apple. Is there data service on the iPhone that is similar to how Google Fi works on Android? Because that's a pretty good deal as it includes data in (most) of the rest of the world and I never pay more than $30/month you can put a Project Fi sim into any phone that works on Tmo in the US, and it will work on Tmo in the US (you will have to fiddle with carrier settings to get MMS to work). you don't get any of the carrier-switching features though, which i assume means it wouldn't work abroad my plan previous to project fi was a cheapo t-mobile thing with like 1GB of data per month, so my already-ingrained data mindfulness puts me in a similar spot for my bill. i got the free 2-year financing and my bill is always less than it ever was previously
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atomicthumbs posted:no lol Unfortunately that's a dealbreaker for me. Google Fi is by far the best for my needs, because I don't use data very often, but I still want to have it when I travel abroad. I was able to get data and texting at the same rate as in the US when I was in Germany, Austria, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark. When I looked at plans for the iPhone SE the cheapest I saw was Verizon - 60 (40 for 5 GB plus a stupid 20 line fee, no international included) Sprint - 45 for 2 GB (includes international text, but not data) ATT - 60 for 3 GB T-Mobile (I can't seem to get good reception with them where I live) - Their One service has what i need (and way more) but is 70/month Meanwhile, Google Fi is 20/month, plus $10 per 1 GB and I only pay the portion of that I use, in the US or most countries.
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actionjackson posted:I'll admit the iPhone SE looks interesting, I originally switched to Android because it was easier to customize the appearance (like with Nova launcher) and I liked having the choice of various phone manufacturers instead of just Apple. Is there data service on the iPhone that is similar to how Google Fi works on Android? Because that's a pretty good deal as it includes data in (most) of the rest of the world and I never pay more than $30/month you can of course use any mvno you want but you’d have to buy an unlocked phone at full price or used. probably not a big problem for an SE. maybe mintsim would work? im not too familiar with mvnos outside of the industrial space Apple needs to put esims in the iPhone so they can gently caress over att/Verizon. google isn’t going to be a threat with their newer Project Fi phones but if Apple also does it... hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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it would be awesome if apple started a Fi-like service too, or if somehow apple and google made a truce to run a service like that together just to put the screws to att and verizon
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hobbesmaster posted:you can of course use any mvno you want but you’d have to buy an unlocked phone at full price or used. probably not a big problem for an SE. mintsim looks to be in my price range, but doesn't have any international data (I know I could get a separate card for that, but having it in one service is nice). I can't seem to find any MVNOs besides Fi that include international data - the plan is so good (for me) that I'm probably going to stick with compatible phones (i.e. android ones) until/unless something similar shows up for the iPhone. actionjackson fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:it would be awesome if apple started a Fi-like service too, or if somehow apple and google made a truce to run a service like that together just to put the screws to att and verizon Tmobile is doing a good job of putting the screws to them now.
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