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euphronius posted:God team is going to be a nightmare when they have to pay wentz Is it? I'm p.sure they are already including that in their future budget planning TheChirurgeon posted:yes, especially if they make the Super Bowl this year. Then you're looking at the curse of paying a guy for what he's done and not what he's going to do The Eagles have always paid their QBs at the level in which they want them to perform. Wentz will be one of the NFL's top 5 paid quarterbacks, if not the highest paid, when he signs his first deal regardless of what happens in the playoffs.
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euphronius posted:So nice to have a good team every 13 years More than we deserve.
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TheChirurgeon posted:OK let’s see… I appreciate you putting the time into this, but if the Eagles make a Calvin Johnson deal I assume there be a bunch of obscure financial tricks involved to make it happen. I don't think we can look at it as "This player costs X amount, so you have to drop these players who make Y amount." And the Eagles have a salary cap magician in charge of things so who the hell can predict what he will come up?
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I'm still not totally sold on Wentz, his mechanics are still medium garbage, he's still not terribly accurate, his deep ball is still bad. I feel like he's a frankenstein of Bortles and Alex Smith
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indigi posted:I'm still not totally sold on Wentz, his mechanics are still medium garbage, he's still not terribly accurate, his deep ball is still bad. I feel like he's a frankenstein of Bortles and Alex Smith Really? Like, really? You probably need to focus more on the intangibles.
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blue squares posted:ahahaha lmao an eagles fan ITT is lamenting the terrible thing that would happen if the eagles won the super bowl Uhhh we are going to have to pay Wentz a shitload even if we don't win the superbowl. Unless we lose out the season from here.
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NotWearingPants posted:Really? Like, really? right now he looks like a thinking man's Eli Manning
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It's worth noting that the Eagles have a 5th year option on Wentz that will keep him through the 2020 season. It probably won't come to that, but they can't even start negotiating until after next season. What he will make will depends on what other QBs get over the next couple years. I'd guess negotiations will start around $35 million a year.
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indigi posted:right now he looks like a thinking man's Eli Manning Eli is a future Hall of Famer. I'm not sure how you rectify "not totally sold on Wentz" with "a better version of a future Hall of Famer".
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Oct 30, 2017 22:39
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Wentz just threw the longest completion in the last 2 years
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Oct 30, 2017 22:45
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I just want to enjoy the ride 
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indigi posted:I'm still not totally sold on Wentz, his mechanics are still medium garbage, he's still not terribly accurate, his deep ball is still bad. I feel like he's a frankenstein of Bortles and Alex Smith This is a good troll.
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FWIW I'm not sold on Wentz either, but mostly because there are only like three sure thing quarterbacks in the NFL and one of them is on IR.
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I'm not totally sold on Wentz either I guess. Like I know he's going to a perennial Pro Bowler and Hall of Famer, and the best Eagles QB ever, but I'm not quite yet ready to say he's going to be the best QB in NFL history.
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a new study bible! posted:Looks up Nick Foles' 2013 stat line Trust your eyes, not the stats.
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NotWearingPants posted:I appreciate you putting the time into this, but if the Eagles make a Calvin Johnson deal I assume there be a bunch of obscure financial tricks involved to make it happen. I don't think we can look at it as "This player costs X amount, so you have to drop these players who make Y amount." And the Eagles have a salary cap magician in charge of things so who the hell can predict what he will come up? lol yes obscure financial tricks like all the ones I mentioned in the post, e.g. "cutting or restructuring players" e: There are no secret tricks. Everything a team can do is outlined in the 2011 CBA TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Oct 31, 2017 |
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NotWearingPants posted:Eli is a future Hall of Famer. I'm not sure how you rectify "not totally sold on Wentz" with "a better version of a future Hall of Famer". Eli Manning will be a Hall of Famer through no fault of his own
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HatfulOfHollow posted:This is a good troll. I honestly don't know how you can watch the games and think "Wentz is the model of a consistent, accurate quarterback." yeah he can do absolute magic when plays break down but watching him throw from the pocket is like watching Bortles in 2014. those bad mechanics will catch up with you. he sometimes has a Tebow-like windup to his passes when he's feeling comfortable, and he still holds onto the ball too long. I'm not saying these issues can't be fixed, but I thought his mechanics would look better coming into year 2 when they actually look worse, and if anything he's become even more erratic on passes outside the numbers. I really want him to work out cause he seems like a lovable doofus but idk if Pederson's got the chops (or the staff) to really sort him out the way a guy like Jim Harbaugh or Andy Reid would.
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indigi posted:I really want him to work out cause he seems like a lovable doofus but idk if Pederson's got the chops (or the staff) to really sort him out the way a guy like Jim Harbaugh or Andy Reid would. Why would you think that Andy Reid, a guy who played a few years of college football at offensive lineman, would be a better person to address mechanical issues than Doug Pederson and Frank Reich, who both played QB in the NFL?
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NotWearingPants posted:Why would you think that Andy Reid, a guy who played a few years of college football at offensive lineman, would be a better person to address mechanical issues than Doug Pederson and Frank Reich, who both played QB in the NFL? Why would you think either of them was responsible for addressing those issues? The Eagles QB coach is John Eugene DeFilippo
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NotWearingPants posted:Why would you think that Andy Reid, a guy who played a few years of college football at offensive lineman, would be a better person to address mechanical issues than Doug Pederson and Frank Reich, who both played QB in the NFL? because Reid has done it with multiple quarterbacks on various teams
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i'm not sold on wentz either, think he's a total fraud and probably has some skeletons in his closet to boot. also i hate him
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indigi posted:because Reid has done it with multiple quarterbacks on various teams Well, Donovan McNabb, a #2 overall pick in the draft, did have a rating above 90 in 3 of his 11 seasons in Philadelphia, so I guess I have to give you that.
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Zeke suspension is back on again for the 8 millionth time. https://twitter.com/AmyDashTV/status/925184440824942592
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I'm sold on Wentz so far, some Eagles fans on here just seem to be the most miserable of jaded bastards though, either that or they forget he's only a second year QB. Hitting out with comparisons to 3 elite QB's who've been in the league for years "he's not as good as Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers" no poo poo sherlock, who is ? If you don't see a young QB improving before your eyes then there's something wrong with you and if you're too busy worry about his mechanics to actually enjoy this little run he's on then I feel bad for you because it's loving magic.
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El Patron posted:I'm sold on Wentz so far, some Eagles fans on here just seem to be the most miserable of jaded bastards though, either that or they forget he's only a second year QB. We all just have seen what hope does to us before. It's better not to hope because then it hurts less when the team inevitably lets you down.  18-1 Is Real edit: The Wild Ride strikes again! https://twitter.com/armandosalguero/status/925351333435203590
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Jay Ajayi, holy poo poo Howie how do you do these things ?
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Do we really need Ajayi? Like how much is he going to bring to the table?
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Huh. Wonder if they'll sign him to a new deal or play him through next year on his rookie contract. e: lol https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/925355767951224832
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Jay Ajayi will really help the Eagles. He’s easily their most talented runner now
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Amy Pole Her posted:Jay Ajayi will really help the Eagles. He’s easily their most talented runner now It's not like Smallwood and Blount were bad at running, though. The bigger issue was pass protection + running routes out of the backfield--someone who can help deal with the constant blitzing. Dunno how good Ajayi is at that.
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Vengarr posted:It's not like Smallwood and Blount were bad at running, though. The bigger issue was pass protection + running routes out of the backfield--someone who can help deal with the constant blitzing. Dunno how good Ajayi is at that. He would have to learn the playbook, which is apparently a problem for him.
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Vengarr posted:It's not like Smallwood and Blount were bad at running, though. The bigger issue was pass protection + running routes out of the backfield--someone who can help deal with the constant blitzing. Dunno how good Ajayi is at that. He’s way better than Blount. I understand why Philly fans vastly overrated him (patriots illusion, understandable) but Ajayi is a huge weapon for your one season push
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