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With comments like this from Dan Mullen's wife I highly doubt he is coming back to Florida... “The former school where we were at before, we won championships there, won practically every single game we played for four years there,” Megan Mullen said. “It wasn’t if we won or lost. It was if we didn’t score 43 points or more, I was going to the grocery store in Orlando where I worked with the Golf Channel and I was driving the groceries back to Gainesville, because it was that bad.” https://www.seccountry.com/florida/former-florida-coach-dan-mullens-wife-discusses-difficulty-coaching-gainesville
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LLCoolJD posted:
Dude, he was straight up passed up for SEC jobs because he has a white wife and this is pretty well documented. See here: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-01-07/sports/strong07_1_head-coach-hiring-a-coach-interracial-marriage Demon Of The Fall posted:What's real dumb? That Tennessee can't afford to pay someone a buyout? Or that they might be waiting to hire a new coach at the same time they fire the old one? The second part (Butch's buyout is prolly not a concern for them.) That is almost never how modern searches work.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:57
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That is almost never how modern searches work. I mean it's just a bad look. Like backdoor deals obviously happen but you don't want it to appear as though you were out looking for your next coach before you bothered to fire the one you have now. Even if everyone does it to some extent. Even when it's so completely obvious you're going to fire your coach like it is here.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:00
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Alaois posted:*bangs fists on table* NO! ROD BROADWAY! he's no john grass
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Oct 30, 2017 22:01
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Grittybeard posted:I mean it's just a bad look. Like backdoor deals obviously happen but you don't want it to appear as though you were out looking for your next coach before you bothered to fire the one you have now. Even if everyone does it to some extent. It's not even just that. There's all sort of legal issues going, as well as that most searches are ran through head hunter firms.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:02
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UF needs to be a more disciplined team, and who but a former referee could do this? Ron Cherry for UF head coach. He'll give the rest of the SEC the business.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:05
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It seems more likely that if they have made a decision to fire Butch, that they're either going to let him coach out the year out of respect or they're still working out the details of a buy out.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:07
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:It seems more likely that if they have made a decision to fire Butch, that they're either going to let him coach out the year out of respect or they're still working out the details of a buy out. No chance the former is true.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:09
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Charlie Strong also lost to Kansas Thats really bad
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Oct 30, 2017 22:11
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Crotch Bat posted:No chance the former is true. I would guess so too, but just offering it as a possible explanation. It also seems possible a decision hasn't been made.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:11
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fyallm posted:With comments like this from Dan Mullen's wife I highly doubt he is coming back to Florida... ~~~SEC... It just means more.~~~
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Oct 30, 2017 22:12
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:For what it's worth, I think Strong would be a much better fit at Florida than he was at Texas. I've said since the very moment he was hired he was lovely fit for Texas and I was 100% right about that. Texas is a job that requires a person to be extremely media/booster affable in a way like Notre Dame does, and that was just absolutely not his strong point. I can't say how he was at booster gladhanding, but Strong was pretty great at the media stuff. He seemed nervous at the very beginning, like his introductory press conference, but very quickly developed a relaxed/confident/affable demeanor in front of the cameras. Better than Herman, that's for sure. Strong came across as really genuine most of the time, and he had a countrified charm to him. Herman comes across like an arrogant spergy douche, most likely because he is an arrogant spergy douche. I think Herman will probably end up being more successful than Strong, maybe very successful, but he is not what you would call an "affable" guy. And if he wins, nobody will care. In general I reject the idea that you have to be some kind of politician to be the coach at Texas. If you win a shitload of games, everyone will like you just fine. If you don't, you'll be looking for work in 3-4 years, whether people like you or not. Despite what some might have you believe, Texas fans overwhelmingly liked Strong and wanted him to succeed, but the product on the field wasn't there, so that was that. All of Mack's accomplishments here, all of his love for the spotlight, and all of his coziness with our biggest boosters didn't let him survive more than four years of poor-to-mediocre results.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:07
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Thermos H Christ posted:I can't say how he was at booster gladhanding, but Strong was pretty great at the media stuff. He seemed nervous at the very beginning, like his introductory press conference, but very quickly developed a relaxed/confident/affable demeanor in front of the cameras. Better than Herman, that's for sure. Strong came across as really genuine most of the time, and he had a countrified charm to him. Herman comes across like an arrogant spergy douche, most likely because he is an arrogant spergy douche. I think Herman will probably end up being more successful than Strong, maybe very successful, but he is not what you would call an "affable" guy. And if he wins, nobody will care. This is mostly all laughably untrue.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:13
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:This is mostly all laughably untrue. do tell
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Oct 30, 2017 23:34
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:This is mostly all laughably untrue. All seems pretty much right to me. Care to elaborate on why it's untrue?
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Oct 30, 2017 23:35
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I think Matt Campbell would be a real good fit for Florida. He's got Iowa State--IOWA STATE--in the top 15! And they've beaten two TOP FIVE teams in two weeks! Say what you will about Oklahoma or TCU this year, they're legit good teams, and he's got ISU punching way above their weight there. His Toledo teams were also real good, so he's pretty solid. If you want a more solid candidate, one with more experience, there really aren't any in college football that are likely willing to jump to Florida--the number of candidates that leave a P5 school (without being fired) for another are really low. I looked it up for the last two years and while I might have missed one, I don't think there were any. Speculation always seems to center around that, and it never happens. ISU to Florida seems like a reasonable case for it to happen (Fuente, etc. are totally unlikely for this reason).
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Oct 30, 2017 23:41
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buddhanc posted:All seems pretty much right to me. Care to elaborate on why it's untrue? 
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Oct 30, 2017 23:49
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fyallm posted:With comments like this from Dan Mullen's wife I highly doubt he is coming back to Florida... These guys are paid $4,000,000+ per year. They need to be able to ignore noise like that.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:52
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LLCoolJD posted:These guys are paid $4,000,000+ per year. They need to be able to ignore noise like that. I think this is something easier written on a message board than it is in real life. After a while, I'm sure it wears on you, no matter how much money is in your 401K and checking account.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:55
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Yeah if you are basically any coach in the top 50 you are going to be recognized everywhere and if you're at any of the big programs you are literally never left alone if you or your family is out in public.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:59
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vikingstrike posted:I think this is something easier written on a message board than it is in real life. After a while, I'm sure it wears on you, no matter how much money is in your 401K and checking account. I would use postmates and grocery pickup services and otherwise have a security entourage of people dressed as school mascots that stiff-armed and tackled anyone approaching without appointment.
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Oct 31, 2017 00:07
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I think Matt Campbell would be a real good fit for Florida. He's got Iowa State--IOWA STATE--in the top 15! And they've beaten two TOP FIVE teams in two weeks! Say what you will about Oklahoma or TCU this year, they're legit good teams, and he's got ISU punching way above their weight there. His Toledo teams were also real good, so he's pretty solid. No.
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Oct 31, 2017 00:10
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I think Matt Campbell would be a real good fit for Florida. He's got Iowa State--IOWA STATE--in the top 15! And they've beaten two TOP FIVE teams in two weeks! Say what you will about Oklahoma or TCU this year, they're legit good teams, and he's got ISU punching way above their weight there. His Toledo teams were also real good, so he's pretty solid. Matt Campbell is terrible, he’s just winning with Paul Rhoads recruits, yada, yada, yada. Don’t take him away 
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Oct 31, 2017 00:41
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LLCoolJD posted:These guys are paid $4,000,000+ per year. They need to be able to ignore noise like that. Just because they make alot of money doesn't mean they deserve to be treated like poo poo.
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Oct 31, 2017 00:49
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Lasagna Pilot posted:I would use postmates and grocery pickup services and otherwise have a security entourage of people dressed as school mascots that stiff-armed and tackled anyone approaching without appointment. I would have an entourage of Goldy mascots, regardless of the school I coached at. fyallm posted:Just because they make alot of money doesn't mean they deserve to be treated like poo poo. Deservin's got nothin' to do with it 
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Oct 31, 2017 00:52
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LLCoolJD posted:These guys are paid $4,000,000+ per year. They need to be able to ignore noise like that. His wife isn’t being paid 4 mil a year to coach football. BI NOW GAY LATER posted:This is mostly all laughably untrue. Charley Strong was a really bad coach at Texas. He lost to Kansas, and not because he had to be nice to boosters or go on TV. Being a bad cultural fit doesn’t explain why his teams could play neither offense nor defense.
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Oct 31, 2017 04:54
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YOLOsubmarine posted:His wife isn’t being paid 4 mil a year to coach football. This is insanely dumb. YOLOsubmarine posted:Charley Strong was a really bad coach at Texas. He lost to Kansas, and not because he had to be nice to boosters or go on TV. Being a bad cultural fit doesn’t explain why his teams could play neither offense nor defense. Could it possibly be that one leads to the other. :thinkingface:
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Oct 31, 2017 04:57
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LLCoolJD posted:These guys are paid $4,000,000+ per year. They need to be able to ignore noise like that. lol yeah man gently caress that bitch for not wanting to get harassed by rear end in a top hat strangers
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Oct 31, 2017 05:03
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I know I'm at a good place in my fandom because I have absolutely no loving clue what Fuente's wife looks like. Hell, I couldn't pick Cheryl Beamer out of a lineup and Frank coached at VT for 29 years.
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Oct 31, 2017 05:25
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:This is insanely dumb. Or maybe he's just a bad coach who can't do anything unless he has a transcendent quarterback in a bad league
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buddhanc posted:Or maybe he's just a bad coach who can't do anything unless he has a transcendent quarterback in a bad league  Louisville was a dumpster fire when he took over between Petrino being bad at long-term planning and Kragthorpe crashing and burning. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Oct 31, 2017 |
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Oct 31, 2017 05:58
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Okay, then explain to me exactly how he had 3 straight losing seasons at Texas. Is he such a feeble man that he drained all his energy schmoozing at night and had nothing left to coach all the 4 and 5 stars in the morning? Or is he maybe just not that good of a coach? He was fine with the media and almost everyone I've ever talked to wanted him to succeed and was pumped for a long time until it was clear he couldn't get it done.
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Oct 31, 2017 06:18
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buddhanc posted:Okay, then explain to me exactly how he had 3 straight losing seasons at Texas. Is he such a feeble man that he drained all his energy schmoozing at night and had nothing left to coach all the 4 and 5 stars in the morning? I think it was just a lovely fit; and everything I've ever heard about him from people who've been around him is that he does not like the sort of media spotlight. It can be a variety of things I also think you can be a bad fit or have a bad run somewhere and not be "a lovely coach." Especially since the results on the field at Texas were never the same as what he's produced in his other jobs.
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Oct 31, 2017 06:51
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yo andichu you didn't have to sit through three years of his garbage, he's a bad head coach. You don't have to make excuses for good coaches. Nick saban is a oval office. Todd Orlando is a oval office. Jeremy Pruitt is a oval office. Chip Kelly is a oval office. Difference is they win
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Oct 31, 2017 07:18
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Oh also he immediately kicked half the team for sagging their pants and smoking weed which I'm sure he did because the boosters were mean
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Oct 31, 2017 07:21
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maybe texas is just bad
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Oct 31, 2017 07:22
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Oh we are but Charlie strong didn't do poo poo to fix that
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Oct 31, 2017 07:30
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Usually when a coach loses a lot of games, he's a bad fit
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Oct 31, 2017 12:49
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buddhanc posted:Or maybe he's just a bad coach who can't do anything unless he has a transcendent quarterback in a bad league But enough about Herman's success at Ohio State...
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Scionix posted:yo andichu you didn't have to sit through three years of his garbage, he's a bad head coach. You don't have to make excuses for good coaches. Nick saban is a oval office. Todd Orlando is a oval office. Jeremy Pruitt is a oval office. Chip Kelly is a oval office. Difference is they win Harbough is gonna go from wonderfully quirky to annoying real quick for Michigan fans if there isn't a conference title in the next couple of years.
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