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I'm trying to think about what sort of list I'd write for my Blood Angels to stand a chance against what we're seeing of nids and I'm honestly drawing a blank. They're better in assault, especially with Guants potentially causing mortal wounds, have far more table presence and so will have the advantage for objectives, and also look like they're going to be a lot better at shooting. Maybe flyer spam? It's feeling worse and worse to be an index army these days.
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Oooo more Tyranid bits from the WD: Living battering ram; finishes a charge on a 4+ 1 enemy unit within 1" suffers a m w. In addition add 1 to all hit rolls in the fight phase that charged in the same turn. Is the +1 to hit when charging new? Devourer and brainleech are now Assault 6 - S6 AP- D1 Bio-plasmic scream is 18" Assault D6 - S7 AP -4 D1
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November 11th can't come soon enough. Sadly, the codex cutoff for being allowed at the renegade open is November 4th. Assuming the price is the same, it would be 194 points for a flyrant with monstrous rending claws and 12 devourer shots. With higher toughness, more wounds and a better invuln. That would make me very happy. Master Twig fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Oct 31, 2017 |
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TKIY posted:Devourer and brainleech are now Assault 6 - S6 AP- D1 
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Pendent posted:I'm trying to think about what sort of list I'd write for my Blood Angels to stand a chance against what we're seeing of nids and I'm honestly drawing a blank. They're better in assault, especially with Guants potentially causing mortal wounds, have far more table presence and so will have the advantage for objectives, and also look like they're going to be a lot better at shooting. Maybe flyer spam? My completely unsubstantiated feeling is that BAs will follow Tyranids if only because of recent fluff.
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I'm really curious if OOE is locked into Behemoth though. If he is that's fine, but if he's not that makes Kraken Screamer-Killer packs hilariously dangerous.
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TKIY posted:I'm really curious if OOE is locked into Behemoth though. If he is that's fine, but if he's not that makes Kraken Screamer-Killer packs hilariously dangerous. He's not locked into a specific hive fleet, but he does have to use the Behemoth trait if he's the warlord. Same with Swarmlord / Leviathan. Master Twig posted:November 11th can't come soon enough. Basic Flyrant, MRC and Brainleech devourer are the same points (170 + 0 + 7 + 7). Other options (boneswords, scything talons) got cheaper. Not sure on AG/TS.
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Broken Record Talk posted:Codex: Jeb They nerfed clapping 
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Broken Record Talk posted:Codex: Jeb! FTFY
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xtothez posted:Yeah, I always thought the rule was a bit of a waste before; by the time SitW did anything you were probably in range to kill the psyker anyway. Letting it cover against Smite range is a big improvement. Soooooo on top of this... There's a 3CP 'Spore field' stratagem that lets you generate two full units of spore mines just after deployment. Now in matched play, stratagems used before the first turn can be used more than once. Spore mines also have a rule explicitly stating they don't cost reinforcement points in matched play. Depending how effective you want your main army to be, you can easily squeeze 20-30CP out of 2k army using some combination of Tyranids / GSC / AM. That means you can gain around 1000pts of free spore mines at the start of the game and literally just wall off an opponent's army.
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xtothez posted:nonsense madness I was under the impression you couldn't combine Tyranids and IG in a GSC force; you had to pick one or the other?
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Nids look really good. Not gonna jump on them immediately because gently caress painting another horde army, but they look solid for the first time in ages. Prediction: Dakka tears or lots of people still complaining about Guard and Guilliman?
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All this gunline Tyranid talk breaks my heart. Just let your boys out to play.
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I will say that it is complete bullshit that Exocrines got a points drop of all things. The amount of damage they can put out combined with the ability to shoot twice in a turn is just obscene.
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I bought myself a Sicaran Venator in a moment of shameful Hammery. Seeing the fuckers right in front of you in the cabinets at Warhammer World is a temptation. Any advice for sticking it together? I've worked with Resin but nothing of this size before.
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Safety Factor posted:I will say that it is complete bullshit that Exocrines got a points drop of all things. The amount of damage they can put out combined with the ability to shoot twice in a turn is just obscene. I really do love those drat things. Even charging them is terribly dangerous and they're grossly tough. I had Marneus Calgar and five Terminators charge in and it killed two in overwatch and then tanked them for two turns.
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TheChirurgeon posted:I was under the impression you couldn't combine Tyranids and IG in a GSC force; you had to pick one or the other? It's covered in the GSC section of the Xenos 2 FAQ. quote:Q: Can I have a Battle-forged army that consists of one Detachment of Genestealer Cults, one Detachment of Astra Militarum(using the Brood Brothers rule) and one Detachment of Tyranids?
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TheChirurgeon posted:I was under the impression you couldn't combine Tyranids and IG in a GSC force; you had to pick one or the other? Nah. They have the Tyranid keyword so you can mix and match there - you need a pure GSC detach to get an IG detach, but you can do like the faq says, or even mix/match in your Tyranid detachment, as long as your GSC one stays pure.
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Ah, well fair enough. By all means, carry on with your friend-making army list
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You can also take single Mucolid Spores, single Lictors, and single Biovores, along with Rippers, to make The Cheapest Brigade
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SteelMentor posted:I bought myself a Sicaran Venator in a moment of shameful Hammery. Seeing the fuckers right in front of you in the cabinets at Warhammer World is a temptation. Start with one side, then file and pin the middle hull pieces to it, then do the same to mate the combined tank with the remaining side
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I finally have started to get around to painting up my magnetized Grey Knight dreadnoughts, which I bought originally for the classic rifleman setup before it was buried in successive codices. I'm planning on running them as Index dreads:
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Picked up the Eldat codex. Quick question, does the Biel-Tan army trait work for the Maugetar?
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Boon posted:Picked up the Eldat codex.
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Boon posted:Picked up the Eldat codex. Quick question, does the Biel-Tan army trait work for the Maugetar? RAW, no, the book is clear what counts. Well probably need an faq
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Boon posted:Picked up the Eldat codex. Quick question, does the Biel-Tan army trait work for the Maugetar? He has a rerolls rule built in anyway no?
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There’s an explicit “heroes of legend” rule that means including a Phoenix lord doesn’t break a craftworlds detachment, but that the Phoenix lord themself doesn’t get the bonus.
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I just can't wait for 2+ save carnifex with -1 to hit . It's so nasty. The first thing I'm going to do is run a 10 carnifex list with Old One Eye.
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Holy gently caress codex Tyranids are even scarier than the index  It's like they're trying to make up for several editions of poo poo all at once
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Ah okay. I haven't played for a year and a half so I'm getting used to the new mechanics
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Boon posted:Ah okay. I haven't played for a year and a half so I'm getting used to the new mechanics The Eldar book has only been out for a week, I expect there to be several th8ngs in it that cause some degree of confusion.
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