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iOS 11.1 seems to have fixed most of the poo poo that was crippling my 6 plus. Considering cancelling my iPhone X order now that I've been bumped down to second week of December.
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I've got an iPhone 6+ in great shape, no real problems. Use it for everything, particularly taking pictures of my 3yr old. I have course have a fancy camera for special events, but day-to-day, I'm taking pictures of him with the iPhone. From a little digging around the net, it seems as though the differences between the 6+ rear camera and even the X aren't STUNNINGLY different. If my main reason to move up would be to improve picture quality, is it even worth it? And to which model? Please keep in mind I'm also one of those luddites who is unreasonably upset the 3.5mm audio jack is gone.
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Nov 2, 2017 08:52
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iPhone X has OIS on both lenses, and the telephoto is slightly faster otherwise same as 8+ both sensors are significantly better than 6+ especially in low light if camera is your only concern, it would be a pretty large upgrade for you to go to an 8+ or X.
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Nov 2, 2017 08:58
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I know a lot of you aren’t Gruber fans, but I still like hearing his opinion. Want to go through the looking glass into Apple apologetica? Listen to the latest The Talk Show with special guest Jim Dalrymple. John: after using the iPhone X it’s obvious how much of a waste of space the forehead and chin bezels are. Jim: well, actually... that space is necessary to make the iPhone 8 as great as it is! The iPhone 8 is amazing and the bezels allowed apple to use the technology they needed to. John: ...right... I used to have The Loop in my RSS feeds but had to drop it because of poo poo like this. Edit: this episode of the talk show is the fox and friends of tech podcasting. Jealous Cow fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 13:28
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Fly Ricky posted:If my main reason to move up would be to improve picture quality, is it even worth it? And to which model? Please keep in mind I'm also one of those luddites who is unreasonably upset the 3.5mm audio jack is gone. I'd say iOS 12 will for sure practically kill the viability of the 6/+ , so maybe wait a year and get the new hotness.
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Nov 2, 2017 14:02
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That dalrymple dude’s been a technologically geriatric moron for about a decade now, in addition to his being an Apple sycophant.
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Nov 2, 2017 14:04
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Etrips posted:So... if I am not one of the 4 major carriers, am I SOL in trying to get an iPhone X to work with my carrier (Cricket Wireless) until the unlocked versions come out? Pivo posted:just pretend you are with VZW their stock should be sim-unlocked kingcobweb posted:AT&T phones should work on Cricket. It’s just AT&T prepaid under a different name. (Though I do believe they will sell you a phone with a new plan which you can immediately cancel, I suppose.)
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Nov 2, 2017 14:20
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Damnit FedEx let me do onsite pickup for my package I have poo poo to do tomorrow - or let me change the delivery address to my office so my reception can sign for it 
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Nov 2, 2017 14:46
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Pivo posted:iPhone X has OIS on both lenses, and the telephoto is slightly faster This is incredibly nerdy, but one more noticeable change is between the 8 and X goes unremarked: the different focal lengths (and so field of views). The iPhone 8 is 56mm equivalent, while the iPhone X is 52mm. It sounds small, but the effect is actually quite pronounced. Oddly enough, this makes the iPhone X’s ‘telephoto’ lens (really, a normal lens) worse for portraiture than the iPhone 8. But ~50mm is actually a wonderful focal length for photography, so I’m jazzed. See TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/31/review-the-iphone-x-goes-to-disneyland/
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Nov 2, 2017 14:48
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Best thing about iPhone X is that due to the notch, there’s no option to display the battery percentage. The only way to see your percent is to pull down the control center.
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Nov 2, 2017 14:50
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goddamn do I hope Apple could extend the ability to customise control centre. I really don’t need screen mirroring or that apple music thingy enough for them to constantly take up space
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Nov 2, 2017 14:55
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Biodome posted:Best thing about iPhone X is that due to the notch, there’s no option to display the battery percentage. The only way to see your percent is to pull down the control center. 
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Nov 2, 2017 14:57
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Fly Ricky posted:I've got an iPhone 6+ in great shape, no real problems. Use it for everything, particularly taking pictures of my 3yr old. I have course have a fancy camera for special events, but day-to-day, I'm taking pictures of him with the iPhone. Apple still makes noticeable yearly improvements to the camera, so go for it. 8+ has the same rear camera stack as the X as an alternative. Also while it’s not perfect, you can use one of these dongles that turns your favorite wired headphones into Bluetooth headphones.
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Nov 2, 2017 15:01
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agwho posted:This is incredibly nerdy, but one more noticeable change is between the 8 and X goes unremarked: the different focal lengths (and so field of views). The iPhone 8 is 56mm equivalent, while the iPhone X is 52mm. I am a huge photo nerd (I own DSLRs and pay for Lightroom and say 'glass' unironically) and I had no idea The X has a 28mm focal length on the 'wide angle' apparently. I'd have preferred 35/85, but 28 and nifty-fifty-ish is also good. Godzilla07 posted:8+ has the same rear camera stack as the X as an alternative. No, not exactly, the telephoto is faster and has OIS on the X.
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Nov 2, 2017 15:03
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Or just get AirPods and never look back.
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Nov 2, 2017 15:06
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Biodome posted:Best thing about iPhone X is that due to the notch, there’s no option to display the battery percentage. The only way to see your percent is to pull down the control center. this is indeed a baller move but will probably cause the more neurotic among us to bellyache a bit ulvir posted:goddamn do I hope Apple could extend the ability to customise control centre. I really don’t need screen mirroring or that apple music thingy enough for them to constantly take up space you don't use the music controller? that's like the main thing i use Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 15:13
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Fly Ricky posted:I've got an iPhone 6+ in great shape, no real problems. Use it for everything, particularly taking pictures of my 3yr old. I have course have a fancy camera for special events, but day-to-day, I'm taking pictures of him with the iPhone. The improvements in camera since the 6+ aren't monumental, but worth an upgrade for in-the-moment child photography -- I'd say to an 8, 8+, or X. All models since the 7 have OIS on the main wide angle lens, and all models since the 7 capture in a DCI-P3 color space. This is immediately noticeable (at least on the phone's display,) as colors are richer. Low light captures and speed have incrementally improved with each new phone, but to a lesser degree. The 7+ added 2x optical zoom and Portrait Mode via the second telephoto lens, but required generous light for good results. Starting with the 8, they improved the flash behavior such that the shutter remains open slightly longer, so the foreground of pictures doesn't get blown out (and the background is better lit) resulting in a picture that looks like it was taken with a proper flash instead of an obnoxious LED bulb array. Another change starting with the 8, apparently it shoots in HDR all the time? I don't know much about this as I've had very little hands on time with the 8, but I guess Apple has gotten to the point where they trust HDR that much in any situation, and I've not read anything to suggest it's a bad idea. I'm sure it can be disabled in settings if you're that opposed to it. The 8+ also adds Portrait Lighting (Beta), which you probably have already heard about -- filters for Portrait Mode. 2x optical zoom and Portrait Mode were further optimized on the 8+, performing better in these regards than the 7+. With the X, as far as we know, it shares the characteristics of the 8+ camera modules/behaviors, but swaps the 8+'s f/2.8 telephoto lens for a f/2.4 optically stabilized lens. This theoretically results in further improvement to optical zoom and Portrait Mode, especially in poor lighting. Portrait Mode also extends to the 7MP front camera thanks to the IR depth camera buddy, and looks as if it works pretty drat well. TL;DR -- iPhone 7 captures DCI-P3 color space, making a big difference in color clarity. 7+ adds a second lens for faked bokeh (Portrait Mode) and 2x optical zoom; requires good light. iPhone 8 adds auto HDR and a slow sync flash for less blowouts. iPhone 8+ telephoto effects likely similar to 7+, but adds Portrait Lighting (beta) and better low light performance. iPhone X behaves similarly to iPhone 8+, but adds OIS to a faster telephoto lens for even better low light/high speed performance, and adds Portrait Mode to the selfie camera. enojy fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 15:37
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Endless Mike posted:I'm fairly certain Apple won't sell you a carrier phone without a plan. I'm pretty sure you're SOL until they start selling unlocked versions. I think they will sell a T-Mobile one without a plan. For instance, when trying to preorder an AT&T phone it asks for account information. But if I choose T-Mobile I can check out. Also looking back when I bought my current 6S+, I bought a T-Mobile (could have sworn it was a AT&T) in the apple store without any account information. So unless something has changed since then...
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Nov 2, 2017 15:41
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Ah, you might be right on that account. I think I did the same at some point.
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Nov 2, 2017 15:45
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Etrips posted:I think they will sell a T-Mobile one without a plan. For instance, when trying to preorder an AT&T phone it asks for account information. But if I choose T-Mobile I can check out. Also looking back when I bought my current 6S+, I bought a T-Mobile (could have sworn it was a AT&T) in the apple store without any account information. So unless something has changed since then... Just a general FYI the T-Mobile (and ATT) version won’t work on Verizon or Sprint. So it’s good for cricket, but good to be aware of.
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Nov 2, 2017 16:02
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When I bought my 7 Plus, I reserved a Sprint model using the “secret” reservation page for IUP customers. When I got to the store, I told them I didn’t have a Sprint account and I just wanted to pay in full right then, and they didn’t give me any grief about it. Popped in my Cricket SIM and it worked fine.
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Nov 2, 2017 16:02
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Jealous Cow posted:I know a lot of you aren’t Gruber fans, but I still like hearing his opinion. Want to go through the looking glass into Apple apologetica? Listen to the latest The Talk Show with special guest Jim Dalrymple. started listening to the talk show shortly after i got an iphone; stopped subjecting myself after the coolness of having A New Thing wore off and the verbal gymnasitcs the guy goes through every episode to justify universally-acknowledged shortcomings as part of apple's grand master plan became just bleedingly obvious. just the worst of apple user stereotypes, distilled and packaged for your convenience i like atp; if you can get past marco's constant self-owns and quest to waste as much money as possible then john siracusa obsessively complaining about poo poo is generally a joy. i did contemplate deleting it after casey, unchallenged, decided to unironically volunteer greasy incel homunculus ben shapiro's podcast as a vehicle for reasoned debate and diversity of opinion. gently caress off enojy posted:The improvements in camera since the 6+ aren't monumental, but worth an upgrade for in-the-moment child photography -- I'd say to an 8, 8+, or X. also live photos are really loving cool. apart from the fast touch id they're the main thing i miss from my 6s
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Nov 2, 2017 16:06
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MarcusSA posted:This deal is back if anyone was still interested. They are great at $63.00 and at least the pair I got were band new. Well I was waiting to buy AirPods but you can't beat the price and I think I'd prefer the IEM style of Bluetooth headphone anyway. My Jaybird X3's are way too uncomfortable no matter which ear tip and wing configuration I use so I hope these are good. e: Oh gently caress and I had $60 in rewards from buying an iPad Pro. $3 Bluetooth W1-enabled headphones... deal. Macichne Leainig fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 16:13
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Generic Monk posted:also live photos are really loving cool. apart from the fast touch id they're the main thing i miss from my 6s I forgot about Live Photo! Yea, I imagine those would be pretty rad for a toddler doing toddler thangs.
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Nov 2, 2017 16:38
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Protocol7 posted:Well I was waiting to buy AirPods but you can't beat the price and I think I'd prefer the IEM style of Bluetooth headphone anyway. i have them, they're pretty great. sound quality is good for bluetooth headphones and excellent by beats standards and i can count on one hand i've had even the smallest issues with reception. only annoyance design wise (and there's not really any other way they could have done this) is that every action related to pairing and power is invoked by holding a single button down for different lengths of time, which does take a bit of getting used to. airpods seem way more intuitive in that regard, although i think the beats design suits my addled lifestyle better as they hang round your neck and are consequently virtually impossible to lose. for that price they can't be beat. go for it enojy posted:I forgot about Live Photo! Yea, I imagine those would be pretty rad for a toddler doing toddler thangs. even as a childless prematurely middle aged misanthropic student they got me taking way more photos and the novelty never really wore off; they're so cool! if i had a kid i'd probably have to rent a datacentre just to store them all Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 16:43
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Jealous Cow posted:I know a lot of you aren’t Gruber fans, but I still like hearing his opinion. 
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Nov 2, 2017 16:53
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Generic Monk posted:started listening to the talk show shortly after i got an iphone; stopped subjecting myself after the coolness of having A New Thing wore off and the verbal gymnasitcs the guy goes through every episode to justify universally-acknowledged shortcomings as part of apple's grand master plan became just bleedingly obvious. just the worst of apple user stereotypes, distilled and packaged for your convenience The quality of TTS is wholly dependent on the guest for each show, and the show always feels like it's 30 minutes too long. A few years back I listened to it fairly regularly but I have too many other podcasts to listen to today. I also find Upgrade a pleasant listen; it and ATP are the only two podcasts I regularly listen to from the Appleverse. enojy posted:I forgot about Live Photo! Yea, I imagine those would be pretty rad for a toddler doing toddler thangs. I am obligated to mention Google's Motion Stills app, which enhances Live Photos by stabilizing them and letting you export them as GIFs.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:00
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Google Motion Stills is so good that it makes Apple look like amateurs. They took an Apple feature and made it like 100% better.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:03
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I went to The Talk Show when it was live at WWDC with Craig Federighi and Phil Schiller. It was... Something else.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:13
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Duckman2008 posted:Just a general FYI the T-Mobile (and ATT) version won’t work on Verizon or Sprint. So it’s good for cricket, but good to be aware of. That's definitely true for the X? I thought they used the Qualcomm chip with CDMA for all the X's in the US; it has fewer SKUs than the iPhone 7 or 8.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:23
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fordan posted:That's definitely true for the X? I thought they used the Qualcomm chip with CDMA for all the X's in the US; it has fewer SKUs than the iPhone 7 or 8. Yep, if you get an AT&T or T-Mo X you are getting the lovely one. Made that mistake with the 7.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:26
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Google Motion Stills is so good that it makes Apple look like amateurs. They took an Apple feature and made it like 100% better.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:34
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Etrips posted:I think they will sell a T-Mobile one without a plan. For instance, when trying to preorder an AT&T phone it asks for account information. But if I choose T-Mobile I can check out. Also looking back when I bought my current 6S+, I bought a T-Mobile (could have sworn it was a AT&T) in the apple store without any account information. So unless something has changed since then...
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Nov 2, 2017 17:36
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fordan posted:That's definitely true for the X? I thought they used the Qualcomm chip with CDMA for all the X's in the US; it has fewer SKUs than the iPhone 7 or 8. Well, the iPhone 10 has fewer SKUs because it comes in just one size (no "Plus" version), not because of its modem. The iPhone 8 and iPhone 10 have the same cellular modems, and the Qualcomm-based versions of the iPhone 8 have already shown to perform better than the Intel-based iPhone 8. Yes, just like the iPhone 7. iPhone Models with the Qualcomm MDM9655 Snapdragon X16 modem (sold by Verizon and Sprint): A1865 (iPhone 10) A1863 (iPhone 8) A1864 (iPhone 8 Plus) iPhone Models with the Intel XMM 7480 modem (sold by AT&T and T-Mobile): A1901 (iPhone 10) A1905 (iPhone 8) A1897 (iPhone 8 Plus) The difference in performance may become mostly apparent in "low signal" situations, such as when you have "2 bars" or less of coverage. With a -100 dBi or weaker connection, the Intel modem (iPhone 8 and iPhone X) will drop speed, drop the connection, and start to consume more battery power to try and keep the connection alive. Having an iPhone with the Qualcomm modem will simply give you a better, more reliable connection (and the better battery life that comes with a better connection). More info on Qualcomm/Intel iPhone models: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/79k7vr/iphone_x_qualcomm_vs_intel_battery_life_real/ Testing of the Intel & Qualcomm modems that the iPhone X uses (testing done with the iPhone 8): https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/28/iphone-8-cellular-bandwidth-tests/ The old iPhone 7 tests, for reference: http://cellularinsights.com/iphone7/ This all means that even if you have AT&T or T-Mobile (or any of their pre-paid options or use an MNVO that uses their network), the Qualcomm/CDMA/Verizon model of the iPhone 8 or iPhone X might be the better option than getting the Intel-based phone that the provider sells you. I have AT&T, and I bought a Qualcomm-based iPhone 8. Xenomorph fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Nov 2, 2017 17:49
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My notes app still freezes about 95% of the time when I first open it on 11.1. Irritating. I ordered a Spigen thin case to start out with. I love my saddle leather on my 7 but I wanted to try something thinner.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:52
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And if you're in Canada or pretty much most of the world, you get the Intel version, not the Qualcomm one Here's the breakdown: https://www.techwalls.com/iphone-x-models-a1865-a1901-a1902-differences/ i.e. you can't get Qualcomm in Canada
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Nov 2, 2017 17:53
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Josh Lyman posted:Is the T-Mobile one locked though? Even paying for an AT&T one, I believe it comes locked and you have to go through the trouble of an unlock request. T-Mobile hasn't locked phones in awhile, though I suppose that could have changed.
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Nov 2, 2017 18:15
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If I bought an American iPhone X could I use it in the EU? They're nearly twice as expensive over here.
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Nov 2, 2017 18:17
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Yes EDIT: Provided it's unlocked.
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