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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Pander posted:

Having said that, Tim Roth is cool so far as I know, he just happened to be lumped in with two assholes.

:ssh: I just rewatched Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

But yeah everything I've heard about Tim Roth is that he's a super cool guy to work with.

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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Pander posted:

Dreyfuss and Oldman are pretty lovely regressive assholes, but I guess that's a fair distinction. I thought you were just lionizing them, which is kinda scary. There aren't a whole lot of actors/directors anymore where I feel unambiguously "if this person turns out to actually suck I'm gonna be sad".

Having said that, Tim Roth is cool so far as I know, he just happened to be lumped in with two assholes.

The only black mark on Tim Roth is he starred in that hagiography of Sepp Blatter that was released around the time of Blatter's downfall, other than that he seems cool

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Pander posted:

There aren't a whole lot of actors/directors anymore where I feel unambiguously "if this person turns out to actually suck I'm gonna be sad".

If Keanu Reeves turns out to be a sexual harasser or holocaust denier or something I will be pretty bummed.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

The liberal news media won't report this, but chris pratt once stalked a woman. Then he woke her from hypersleep despite there being no chance of rescue condemning her to a life of repetitive near solitude which is, at a minimum, kidnapping.

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

The liberal news media won't report this, but chris pratt once stalked a woman. Then he woke her from hypersleep despite there being no chance of rescue condemning her to a life of repetitive near solitude which is, at a minimum, kidnapping.

pretty sure they consensually hosed though

InterrupterJones
Nov 10, 2012

Me and the boys on the way to kill another demon god
My wife and I and a few friends watched 1922 last night, and it was...interesting? It's a Stephen King adaptation, so I wouldn't call it scary, but it did have an effectively creepy atmosphere. It started off pretty dang slow; but when it got going, it wobbled a bit between being intriguing and being a bit difficult to follow. Still, a solid worth-checking-out for fans of semi-psychological crime dramas.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Hubbardologist posted:

Aw yeah Michael Clayton went up on Netflix today. Such a good low key, slow-burn thriller.

Tom Wilkinson with one of the best performances. Any other year, he may have won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor, but I can't argue against Javier Bardem winning.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Amazon Prime just got all of the James Bond movies (minus one or two of the Daniel Craig movies)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Like once a year I try to power through all the Roger Moore era Bonds and I never quite make it. I think I might just skip right to Brosnan this time. I own all the Connerys of course:cool:

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

the roger moore ones are my favorite. i'm willing to accept that this opinion is wrong

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Basebf555 posted:

Like once a year I try to power through all the Roger Moore era Bonds and I never quite make it. I think I might just skip right to Brosnan this time. I own all the Connerys of course:cool:

Don't forget Dalton! The Dalton Bonds are freat.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Franchescanado posted:

Amazon Prime just got all of the James Bond movies (minus one or two of the Daniel Craig movies)

I thought they had them for a while now. Or did they have them, lose them, and now they're back?

Men in Black is back on Netflix. It's 20 years old but still holds up really well.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


A MIRACLE posted:

totally agree, my recommendation to people is to just watch as much of it as you want, it's good content if a bit repetitive and doesn't really build to an ending. but his crowdwork and jokes are good the whole way through

Yeah i watched about half of it and enjoyed it but it felt like enough. I wish the sound quality was better.

The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I thought they had them for a while now. Or did they have them, lose them, and now they're back?

I feel like they've lost them several times in the last couple years

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I thought they had them for a while now. Or did they have them, lose them, and now they're back?

Men in Black is back on Netflix. It's 20 years old but still holds up really well.

They seem to get them in November and drop them near spring every year.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Dalton was the best bond. He had a bit more of the darker edge, without taking it too far like Craig did. However, Moonraker is still the best bond film despite his absence.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

I rewatched Men In Black on mushrooms a couple years ago, it holds up surprisingly well

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
The best Bond is Live and Let Die, and it has nothing to do with the intro song.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

Franchescanado posted:

The best Bond is Diamonds Are Forever, and it has nothing to do with the intro song.

(also the best Indiana Jones movie was Temple of Doom well bye later)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I hate Live and Let Die because one time it was available on Prime, so I put it on my watchlist. Then I went to watch it like a week later and I didn't notice it had been pulled from Prime, so I ended up accidentally buying it for $14.99 instead. Live and Let Die is not worth $14.99. I curse that movie every time I see it in my library.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

A MIRACLE posted:

the roger moore ones are my favorite. i'm willing to accept that this opinion is wrong

I wouldn't say Roger Moore is "the best Bond" but he has the most consistently entertaining Bond movies. They're just so ridiculous.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

precision posted:

I wouldn't say Roger Moore is "the best Bond" but he has the most consistently entertaining Bond movies. They're just so ridiculous.

He has some good ones but I don't know how you can say "most consistent" when compared to Connery. Dr. No-Thunderball are all excellent, and then You Only Live Twice and Diamonds are Forever are a step down but I still think they're better than the worst of Moore, which is pretty bad.

No way Moore has a run of four consecutive films that can stand up to the first 4 Connerys.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Consistently entertaining is different than consistently good :)

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I still maintain Brosnan would have been one of the best if he didn't get stuck with a lot of godawful movies after Tomorrow Never Dies.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I still maintain Brosnan would have been one of the best if he didn't get stuck with a lot of godawful movies after Tomorrow Never Dies.

He really did start strong, Tomorrow Never Dies was a very solid followup to Goldeneye. Much better than Craig's second time out at least. Thinking about it, this (presumably) final Craig film will really go a long way towards cementing his "reputation" as Bond. If it sucks then he will go down as more of a Roger Moore who had some good and some bad, versus if it's a return to Skyfall form then he could go down as a consistently good Bond who only had one major misstep.

Popular opinion still hasn't quite settled yet on Spectre, I think it will be mostly forgotten as a solid outing or lumped in with Quantum of Solace as an example of why the Craig era was bad, all depending on what happens with this final one.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer
My wife hates movies that come off as "slow"; how do I get her to watch Michael Clayton?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Sock The Great posted:

My wife hates movies that come off as "slow"; how do I get her to watch Michael Clayton?

Tell her Wesley Snipes is in it

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

Sock The Great posted:

My wife hates movies that come off as "slow"; how do I get her to watch Michael Clayton?

I've heard Clooney is an attractive guy.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Basebf555 posted:

He really did start strong, Tomorrow Never Dies was a very solid followup to Goldeneye. Much better than Craig's second time out at least. Thinking about it, this (presumably) final Craig film will really go a long way towards cementing his "reputation" as Bond. If it sucks then he will go down as more of a Roger Moore who had some good and some bad, versus if it's a return to Skyfall form then he could go down as a consistently good Bond who only had one major misstep.

Popular opinion still hasn't quite settled yet on Spectre, I think it will be mostly forgotten as a solid outing or lumped in with Quantum of Solace as an example of why the Craig era was bad, all depending on what happens with this final one.

Is Skyfall supposed to be bad? I really liked that one. I grew up in the 90's so Brosnan's movies will always be special to me. And I think the N64 Goldeneye cemented him as the definitive Bond for most of my generation. What a huge cultural phenomenon that was for us

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

A MIRACLE posted:

Is Skyfall supposed to be bad? I really liked that one. I grew up in the 90's so Brosnan's movies will always be special to me. And I think the N64 Goldeneye cemented him as the definitive Bond for most of my generation. What a huge cultural phenomenon that was for us

Most people I know consider Skyfall one of the best bond movies. It's my personal favorite for sure.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

A MIRACLE posted:

Is Skyfall supposed to be bad? I really liked that one. I grew up in the 90's so Brosnan's movies will always be special to me. And I think the N64 Goldeneye cemented him as the definitive Bond for most of my generation. What a huge cultural phenomenon that was for us

No, no, I realize I was a bit unclear. If this next one is a return to Skyfall form(excellent), after Spectre was regarded as a bit of a disappointment, people will remember Craig's Bond as being consistently good with the one glaring exception of Quantum of Solace, which almost everyone agrees is pretty bad.

If the next one is bad, the perception will be more that Craig made two good ones(Casino Royale and Skyfall) but three bad ones, and so his reputation will overall be negative.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I'm excited to see how I feel about Brosnan Bond after not seeing one since the Halle Berry Ice Mansion owned by Diamond Face one.

I think no matter how good or bad the next Craig Bond movie is, people will still really like Craig as Bond, they'll just say he was wasted in three mediocre movies.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Most people I know consider Skyfall one of the best bond movies. It's my personal favorite for sure.

Skyfall is the best Craig Bond, one of the best Modern Bonds, and the 2nd best Home Alone movie.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Most people I know consider Skyfall one of the best bond movies. It's my personal favorite for sure.

It’s the best Craig Bond for sure and is personally my favorite Bond movie. I love the new direction they took with the Craig Bond story.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

some of y'all have some really bad opinions concerning the Bond franchise

Moore's movies are entertaining, mostly unintentionally but entertaining nonetheless

Daniel Craig's movies are very poorly written, and they waste fantastic actors on mediocre Big Bads

The Pierce Brosnan era was astoundingly bad, Goldeneye was alright but the franchise nosedived like a Russian sub with a nuclear meltdown

On Her Majesty's Secret Service was a very good movie, but the fact that I can't remember the lead's name says a lot about him to me

The Sean Connery era had dizzying highs and some pretty low lows, but still it was the strongest era (Never Say Never Again doesn't count, dammit)

wildcard: The Peter Sellers Casino Royale 1967 was better than any Craig movie


From Russia With Love is the best Bond, period

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Filthy Hans posted:

some of y'all have some really bad opinions concerning the Bond franchise

Moore's movies are entertaining, mostly unintentionally but entertaining nonetheless

Daniel Craig's movies are very poorly written, and they waste fantastic actors on mediocre Big Bads

The Pierce Brosnan era was astoundingly bad, Goldeneye was alright but the franchise nosedived like a Russian sub with a nuclear meltdown

On Her Majesty's Secret Service was a very good movie, but the fact that I can't remember the lead's name says a lot about him to me

The Sean Connery era had dizzying highs and some pretty low lows, but still it was the strongest era (Never Say Never Again doesn't count, dammit)

wildcard: The Peter Sellers Casino Royale 1967 was better than any Craig movie


From Russia With Love is the best Bond, period

I'll add the Spy Who Loved Me is tied with Never Say Never Again as worst Bond.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is back on Netflix.

I unashamedly love this movie. It's a love letter to the old before the movie serials and superman cartoons of the 30s and 40s.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Basebf555 posted:

Thinking about it, this (presumably) final Craig film

It's absolutely his last. He had a miserable time shooting Spectre, he keeps racking up more injuries on every shoot and he's given every indication that he's absolutely bored to death with the role, to the point they had to offer a zillion dollars and a ton of perks to get him to sign on for one more movie. Reportedly he's got even more creative control on the script, and he also gets to approve the director (and reportedly he wants Villeneuve). But they're two years from release and they have no script--Purvis and Wade are back, joy of joys--and Waltz has already said he's not returning as Blofeld. So God only knows what kind of clusterfuck will come out.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I still maintain Brosnan would have been one of the best if he didn't get stuck with a lot of godawful movies after Tomorrow Never Dies.

Someone here once described Brosnan as a "greatest hits" Bond, which is basically the perfect way to describe him. He has flashes of all the other actors and their takes, but he never really establishes himself. He's very much a cipher. He probably had an opportunity to really do something with The World is Not Enough (and there's still maybe half of a good movie in there), but he was really let down by the supporting cast, as Robert Carlyle was the only other person who gave a poo poo in that movie.

CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.

Rad Valtar posted:

It’s the best Craig Bond for sure and is personally my favorite Bond movie. I love the new direction they took with the Craig Bond story.

Casino Royale is the best Craig Bond and the best Bond movie ever. I don't know why I seem to be the only person to think this

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

CaptCommy posted:

Casino Royale is the best Craig Bond and the best Bond movie ever. I don't know why I seem to be the only person to think this

I would agree, but it went on too long. If they cut off the part where he runs away with whatsherface and put it at the beginning of Quantum of Solace, CR would have been better and QoS wouldn't be half a movie.

Also, Skyfall has the silhouette fight and Ralph Fiennes being awesome, so points for those.

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Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
I agree it went on a little too long and it's still my favorite Bond movie. It felt more consequential than any of the other ones.

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