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Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Speaking of isekai and RPGs I知 putting together a Golden Sky Stories isekai campaign. The players are killed in a horrible traffic accident involving a truck and are sent to one of those isekai that is set up like a video game with guilds and quests. The power granted to them during their transfer is Henge Power (shapeshifting magic from GSS). They are recruited by the Embracers Guild to solve racial tension problems between the humans, beasts (animal ear humans) and monsters through the power of friendship and hugs.

Edit: Oh, wait, one of the GSS supplements already covers this. Awesome. I知 running this thing.

Getsuya fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Nov 2, 2017

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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Those actually appeared in Clanbook: Brujah about two years beforehand, actually, though they were badly implemented (in that I think there weren't any actual XP costs or advancement mechanics to get them, then just required you to beg an elder to teach one).
Kind of ironic for the Brujah book, jeez

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe
Anyone know if ICONS: Assembled Edition is good?

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Zoro posted:

Anyone know if ICONS: Assembled Edition is good?

It's good if you want a basic superhero-v-supervillain thing. It's Fate-derived (d6-d6), and is pretty Silver Age in tone, so it's intended to be fun and lighthearted. The idea is that you pick/roll your powers and go beat up a bad guy whose theme is some lame pun.

The art's not great, though.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Evil Mastermind posted:

The art's not great, though.
That's the curse of every non-licensed superhero RPG, going back to the original Champions. Which is weird, given how many people imitate and practice and doodle superhero artwork.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

FMguru posted:

That's the curse of every non-licensed superhero RPG, going back to the original Champions. Which is weird, given how many people imitate and practice and doodle superhero artwork.

It's clearly trying for a Bruce Timm style, but, well...



Believe it or not, that's still better than the first edition.



The guy just has no sense of proportion or depth.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe

Evil Mastermind posted:

It's good if you want a basic superhero-v-supervillain thing. It's Fate-derived (d6-d6), and is pretty Silver Age in tone, so it's intended to be fun and lighthearted. The idea is that you pick/roll your powers and go beat up a bad guy whose theme is some lame pun.

The art's not great, though.

Aren't there good fate core super games though? What makes this different from just doing fate core?

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Zoro posted:

Aren't there good fate core super games though? What makes this different from just doing fate core?
It originally came out a ways before Fate Core, and the Great Power supplement does have conversion rules for FC in it, so if you want to just buy that and use Fate Core, then that's an option too.

As for Fate Core supers games...the only one I've really looked at was Venture City, but that's not really designed for four-color supers.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
How is Final Fantasy D20? The one based on Pathfinder. I found a PbP ad for it elsewhere and I知 interested as an FF fan but I知 wondering how it actually plays.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Getsuya posted:

How is Final Fantasy D20? The one based on Pathfinder. I found a PbP ad for it elsewhere and I知 interested as an FF fan but I知 wondering how it actually plays.

it's pathfinder with third-party classes about as good as most third-party pf material

i wouldn't pick it unless you've got a really burning desire to play PF

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Getsuya posted:

How is Final Fantasy D20? The one based on Pathfinder. I found a PbP ad for it elsewhere and I知 interested as an FF fan but I知 wondering how it actually plays.

Play Final Fantasy D6 instead. It's pretty competently made.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
I壇 probably be willing to bear with it if the plot for the campaign looked solid but it痴 kinda minimalist so... Darn. I was kinda looking forward to playing a Moogle in PF.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

fool_of_sound posted:

Play Final Fantasy D6 instead. It's pretty competently made.

^^^ This, running one is a blessing.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
final fantasy pee-shits

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Zoro posted:

Aren't there good fate core super games though? What makes this different from just doing fate core?

Fate Core is the most recent edition of Fate, 4e. Atomic Robo is Fate Core, but a bunch of Fate's more famous games never updated from the 3rd edition to core or accelerated.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
On the topic of Superhero RPG art, if I ever made a game in that genre(and I've thought about it before), I'd probably just use art from old Golden Age Public Domain Superhero comics

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Getting a lot of high quality scans of old Fantomah pages would be pretty dang impressive.

Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Nov 3, 2017

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe

Evil Mastermind posted:

It originally came out a ways before Fate Core, and the Great Power supplement does have conversion rules for FC in it, so if you want to just buy that and use Fate Core, then that's an option too.

As for Fate Core supers games...the only one I've really looked at was Venture City, but that's not really designed for four-color supers.

Well, there is Wearing The Cape: The Roleplaying Game. That's more like bronze/iron/modern age, not silver. The default setting does a lot of superhero post-modernism. The system is Fate Core and uses a two-column fate style to things.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Nuns with Guns posted:

Getting a lot of high quality scans of old Fantomah pages would be pretty dang impressive.

Fletcher Hanks' work is one that I'd actually license, or at least the high quality scans/restoration of his comics that Fantagraphics did for their two volume(later re-released as a single volume) collection of his comics

Not sure how I'd handle the PD stuff from MLJ/Archie or the companies that got absorbed by DC though

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
ICONS' main intent from what I can tell is just to have a simple system that doesn't require much prep. It was kind of a reaction by Kenson to his work on Mutants & Masterminds in that he didn't particularly care for things like the complicated point-buy or combat systems, and so it was very much an attempt to do a modern Villains & Vigilantes - a simple system with functional mechanics where people can make characters in a half-hour.

It's functional in its aims, but isn't different enough from a lot of generic systems to enthuse me too much.

FMguru posted:

That's the curse of every non-licensed superhero RPG, going back to the original Champions. Which is weird, given how many people imitate and practice and doodle superhero artwork.
Mutants & Masterminds 1e had amazing art, but sadly it feels like it took a step back with each edition, and the line itself varies wildly. Worlds in Peril and Masks both have great art.

Still kind of amazed that Heroes Unlimited got Jim Steranko on cover art twice, but the internal art is far more of a mixed bag.

occamsnailfile
Nov 4, 2007



zamtrios so lonely
Grimey Drawer

Alien Rope Burn posted:

ICONS' main intent from what I can tell is just to have a simple system that doesn't require much prep. It was kind of a reaction by Kenson to his work on Mutants & Masterminds in that he didn't particularly care for things like the complicated point-buy or combat systems, and so it was very much an attempt to do a modern Villains & Vigilantes - a simple system with functional mechanics where people can make characters in a half-hour.

It's functional in its aims, but isn't different enough from a lot of generic systems to enthuse me too much.

Mutants & Masterminds 1e had amazing art, but sadly it feels like it took a step back with each edition, and the line itself varies wildly. Worlds in Peril and Masks both have great art.

Still kind of amazed that Heroes Unlimited got Jim Steranko on cover art twice, but the internal art is far more of a mixed bag.

I still regret selling my Nocturnals M&M book. It wasn't a great sourcebook but drat the art man

Darth Various
Oct 23, 2010

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Mutants & Masterminds 1e had amazing art, but sadly it feels like it took a step back with each edition, and the line itself varies wildly. Worlds in Peril and Masks both have great art.

Still kind of amazed that Heroes Unlimited got Jim Steranko on cover art twice, but the internal art is far more of a mixed bag.

I'm still reading through the just recently released City of Mist, but the art seems really good so far.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

occamsnailfile posted:

I still regret selling my Nocturnals M&M book. It wasn't a great sourcebook but drat the art man

Wow, yeah. Nocturnals is probably one of the best art in an RPG book ever, IMO... but yeah, it's real light on the actual game content.

Really, Mutants & Masterminds 1e and Crooks had great art, but from the accounts I got the group of artists they had (Super Unicorn) supposedly weren't reliable. Which was too bad, because I was interested in the META-4 setting they were doing, but it was dropped a few books into the line and never heard of again, as I the copyright was with the artists and not Green Ronin itself.

Weird situation.

Darth Various posted:

I'm still reading through the just recently released City of Mist, but the art seems really good so far.

You know, it says something that I presumed that was more of a modern supernatural thing, I didn't even realize it was supposed to be dark superheroic.

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.
Note that most of the folks working on Meta-4 via Super Unicorn had significant overlap with folks who went on to create Paizo. Erik Mona and Sean Glenn, for example. If I had to guess, they dropped working on M&M because they got busy doing the 3.x version of Dragon and Dungeon.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Finished the rolling mechanics for LOST
https://ancientscars.wordpress.com/2017/11/04/lost-chapter-4-making-checks/

I love how easy this game is to translate. For a TRPG ruleset it's written extremely simply and clearly. If you're interested in the Saikoro Fiction rolling system (also used in Shinobigami), this uses the same core.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



"Just call me Breastbrick!"

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Friendly neighborhood Spider-Boobs.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Seriously though that left leg is loving me up.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe
"We knew a girl with one big titty and one little titty. We called that bitch biggie smalls."

Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.
Ooooooooohhhhhh. She's hanging off of the wall. It took me a lot of staring to get that. I initially thought she was doing a jump kick and her leg was way too short.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Jimbozig posted:

Ooooooooohhhhhh. She's hanging off of the wall. It took me a lot of staring to get that. I initially thought she was doing a jump kick and her leg was way too short.
Ohhhhhhh.

That is...

Wow

Moriatti
Apr 21, 2014

It's like a Magic Eye except the picture is still garbage after you cross your eyes.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.
I think she is actually riding a disc of bricks like silver surfer.

Darwinism
Jan 6, 2008


Evil Mastermind posted:

It's clearly trying for a Bruce Timm style, but, well...



Do... do his eyes have evil soulpatches too?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Darwinism posted:

Do... do his eyes have evil soulpatches too?
It's that or guyliner.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
A pity Masks got the associations it did because I legit enjoy the person they got to do the art for it.

Zoro
Aug 30, 2017

by Smythe

Der Waffle Mous posted:

A pity Masks got the associations it did because I legit enjoy the person they got to do the art for it.

He takes commissions. I was going to put out a 3rd party book for it so I had to find him. He also, apparently, mostly does porn.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Zoro posted:

He takes commissions. I was going to put out a 3rd party book for it so I had to find him. He also, apparently, mostly does porn.
That's how you feed yourself as an artist in this post b-ballocalypse sadbrains hellscape.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

There's a lot of hentai dudes who do character designs for videogames (Valkyria Chronicles, Xenoblade 2), just stop giving a poo poo

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Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Der Waffle Mous posted:

A pity Masks got the associations it did because I legit enjoy the person they got to do the art for it.

Michael Lee Lunsford has a webcomic and a patreon, if you're not already aware.

And yeah, he does a fair deal of porn commissions on the side, that's not abnormal. I'm one of his regular commissioners. (Not of porn, mind, all my requests are SFW.)

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