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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Neon Noodle posted:

I have returned to this Hell Site. Here are some arts:




Welcome back. Some of those are GREAT. Love the girl / eyeball for example.

Two more for inktober. Almost caught up.

Adding a background via ink wash. This was not done in photoshop.


It's "denril" - which is translucent and lots of fun to draw on. I can't explain it other than to say it handles ink like nothing else. Still getting used to the surface qualities. Ink takes MUCH longer to dry out because the surface isn't very porous at all but rather slick / plastic.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Oct 31, 2017

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Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Tenterhooks posted:

Some halloween things for my Instagram.


These are all fantastic and I'm officially petitioning that you give the sexy vampire tits on top of the donger.

Neon Noodle posted:

I have returned to this Hell Site.



Good to have you back among us and also this hare is so good. The colour transitions are so smooth and the curves on the spikey-plants are so whooshy.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
i started a new medication and am p sure it made me really sick and ive been sick all month and I just doodled a bunch of lethargic bullshit furries







Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Oh good, someone else is drawing dicks so I don't feel so bad about today's Inktober.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Inktober 29


"The candle that burns twice as bright..."

Shinmera
Mar 25, 2013

I make games!

Vermain posted:

I've kept a record, whether digital or physical, of every single drawing I have ever done since I started drawing two years and change ago. Whenever I start thinking, "There's no way I can learn how to do this," I go and pull out one of the drawings I did two years ago and compare it to something I did even two days ago. It's a very good and very real reminder that I've been able to progress immensely through hard work and dedication, and that I'm not going to suddenly plateau and be unable to learn a new technique or master drawing a specific form.

I have a record of almost much everything I've done, and while there's definitely noticeable change and improvement to three+ years ago, I struggle to see much of an improvement to the things I've done about a year or more ago([1] [2] [3]). Some things are different, but I can't really tell whether I like what I'm doing now more than what I did back then. I guess I don't really have a solid idea of what I really want, nor how to figure that out, so I keep on stumbling around somewhat blindly.

Vermain posted:

If you're seriously struggling with the confidence to put thought to paper, it's never a bad idea to go back to the absolute basics. Whenever I start struggling with things like anatomy and form, I go back and practice the simplest possible methods of construction - boxes, spheres, cylinders, etc. - and apply them to the form I'm attempting to draw. The times where I get in trouble when drawing are usually because I've succumbed to hubris and thought myself above simplifying a torso as a box or drawing some perspective lines or looking at reference. If you've been doing it for 30 years like Glenn Vilppu or Steve Huston, you can get away with not always drawing things to look like a box to begin with, but for us casual schmoes, constantly brushing up on and adhering to the basics is the best thing you can do.

I always use a sort of skeleton to help me draw people and to figure out how to construct stuff. It's just that, despite this, I still somehow can't get it quite right a lot of the time. I don't know-- for a large part I also fear that I might be just whining and should instead bite the bullet and do a ton of practise sheets.

People like Boulet that can just shake a complete drawing out of their hand without any sketching underneath are incredibly impressive.

dupersaurus posted:

First, define what "there" is, and milestone if need to. This will be difficult because personal style is, well, personal, and you'll be tempted to look to other people and go "I want to be X". Resist the temptation. Learn from other people, but don't Buffalo Bill them.

If you don't know something, you have to do a deep-dive of self-reflection and analysis to figure it out.

I'd up Crayon's numbers and change it to, for every work: three good things you did and two things you want to improve. Recognizing the good you've done is important in every skill. And if you really truly honestly for real don't think you did any good (although you did, but we'll let that go for now), you need to figure out why you think that. Are you expecting more of yourself than is warranted? Are you Buffalo Billing but realizing that you're making the wrong skin suit? Are technical issues blinding conceptual successes? Are conceptual issues blinding technical successes? and so on

Yeah, that's definitely a good point. I think I've managed to steer clear of just imitating another's style so far. Figuring out what I actually like about a drawing can be pretty tough in an of itself.

Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!


On to thread-related content: It's getting pretty cold out, and I'm enjoying the weather.



While I like the line thickness being constant, I think it would be worth it to try and incorporate different levels of thickness as I did here. Probably could expand on that more, though. I still feel like I don't have a good grasp on what kinds of colours fit together; should probably get back to trying to get into painting to start on that.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Shinmera posted:

I have a record of almost much everything I've done, and while there's definitely noticeable change and improvement to three+ years ago, I struggle to see much of an improvement to the things I've done about a year or more ago([1] [2] [3]). Some things are different, but I can't really tell whether I like what I'm doing now more than what I did back then. I guess I don't really have a solid idea of what I really want, nor how to figure that out, so I keep on stumbling around somewhat blindly.


I always use a sort of skeleton to help me draw people and to figure out how to construct stuff. It's just that, despite this, I still somehow can't get it quite right a lot of the time. I don't know-- for a large part I also fear that I might be just whining and should instead bite the bullet and do a ton of practise sheets.

People like Boulet that can just shake a complete drawing out of their hand without any sketching underneath are incredibly impressive.


Yeah, that's definitely a good point. I think I've managed to steer clear of just imitating another's style so far. Figuring out what I actually like about a drawing can be pretty tough in an of itself.

Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!


On to thread-related content: It's getting pretty cold out, and I'm enjoying the weather.



While I like the line thickness being constant, I think it would be worth it to try and incorporate different levels of thickness as I did here. Probably could expand on that more, though. I still feel like I don't have a good grasp on what kinds of colours fit together; should probably get back to trying to get into painting to start on that.

Do you only draw digital? Maybe experiment with a medium you're uncomfortable/unfamiliar with, like brush and ink, watercolors, pastels, markers, whatever. Using different materials can make you see your art and style differently and help.

Do you ever try to actively break your style? Most of what's in this post are very... pointy, angular. Try to do the complete opposite: only use curves, or do an entire drawing with a single line, or try pointillism--literally anything that isn't what you're already doing. I don't mean to say it's bad--it's not, and I like your drawings, I think you're figures are fine--but I think everyone needs to buck their own trends and do something completely different every once in a while for a new perspective. You put more detail into the figure's bodies while the faces are very simple, so maybe do a series of JUST faces with as much detail as possible. Or make your figures sit, or do a handstand--something dynamic than just a simple standing pose.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

Wowporn posted:

i started a new medication and am p sure it made me really sick and ive been sick all month and I just doodled a bunch of lethargic bullshit furries









I am here for lethargic bullshit furries :furcry:

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Shinmera posted:

I still have pretty much no drat clue how to draw any kind of water with just line art.

It's me, I'm the person quoting from forever ago, but here I doodled a couple of quick & easy ways to do water with lineart:



That freaking tangled cat lmao. :iia: Never don't draw dongs. Halloween dongs forever.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Watercolor Piggy

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

:krad: Quality marshmallow piggy.


Page 6, panel 1

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO


mandusa
freehanded in a meeting



catdragons

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i did some spooky politics drawings for spookween






actually earned me an av comission

DMST
Jul 11, 2006
Our Man in Havana.

I'm still very new to drawing. This is a just line by line thing while watching the new season of Fargo. I usually like the inky pens that create hard lines and very black and white boundaries. Using the pencil has sort of forced me to confront shading and texture. Something much more to learn about.

Drawing more had made me realize the skill of some of you guys and especially the painters you would go to the museum to see. I can't comprehend how they have such a mastery of colours and shadows.

I'm definitely having fun but I know I have to at some point try to replicate something real rather than bullshit stream of consciousness stuff.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Inktober 30 is dedicated to Yolandi of Die Antwoord.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Ended Inktober watching Cabin in the Woods.



It was so nice not having to worry about drawing anything yesterday. So tired.

Neon Noodle posted:

I am here for lethargic bullshit furries :furcry:

Are they furries though? I'm getting a more 'edgy Arthur' vibe than 'I want to stick my dick in that'.

folder
Oct 9, 2016

this is by far the best thing you have posted in the thread. the biggest/most obvious criticism i have of your landscapes is that they are pretty flat and the elements vary from extremely basic to overly detailed/complicated. i think you will improve if you're much more strict with your palette - especially by paying close attention to change and variations in values - and keep it simple. the reason this piece works is because there are very obvious, clear, solid objects with form and depth. is it from a photograph?

folder
Oct 9, 2016

Neon Noodle posted:

I have returned to this Hell Site. Here are some arts:


:eyepop:

what do you use for these (the last 4?)

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
They're all iPad Pro/Procreate except for the black and white ink one, which is a Pentel Pocket Brush on rough paper.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

folder posted:

this is by far the best thing you have posted in the thread. the biggest/most obvious criticism i have of your landscapes is that they are pretty flat and the elements vary from extremely basic to overly detailed/complicated. i think you will improve if you're much more strict with your palette - especially by paying close attention to change and variations in values - and keep it simple. the reason this piece works is because there are very obvious, clear, solid objects with form and depth. is it from a photograph?

thanks for the advice, and yes it came from a photograph. do you have any recommendations for some resources on working with colors? im basically just making it up as i go along and don't really know anything except the strict basics about color theory

folder
Oct 9, 2016

Neon Noodle posted:

They're all iPad Pro/Procreate except for the black and white ink one, which is a Pentel Pocket Brush on rough paper.

they are absolutely gorgeous. welcome back

Al! posted:

thanks for the advice, and yes it came from a photograph. do you have any recommendations for some resources on working with colors? im basically just making it up as i go along and don't really know anything except the strict basics about color theory

well! there is of course THE tutorial which is a reliable, all-rounder starting resource - i'd recommend the "focus points" and "studies" sections in particular. but if you're familiar with that and feel like stretching out i'd recommend Color and Light, A Guide for the Realist Painter by James Gurney.

frustratingly i can't remember the exact title of another helpful book just now but the best advice i got from it is to get into the habit of colour inventories. take a picture that you like or would like to emulate and identify its constituent colours and map their relative proportions like this. there are some good twitter/ig accounts that do this for movie stills like this which can give you some inspiration for your sci-fi stuff

e: the point of colour inventories is to just be mindful of how you can portray a sense of light harmoniously and economically. after a few you get a feel for how things go together and what combinations work etc. a nice exercise is to take the inventory of a piece and then make your own, following the same colours and proportions

folder fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Nov 2, 2017

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Al! posted:

thanks for the advice, and yes it came from a photograph. do you have any recommendations for some resources on working with colors? im basically just making it up as i go along and don't really know anything except the strict basics about color theory

I suck at color palettes and if left to my own devices use all kinds of terrible non-complementary clashing colors. There are websites that let you build a simple color palette as well as apps or sites that can take colors from other art or pictures and create a nice selection of hues for you. Just do a search for 'create color palettes' and you'll find more resources than you'd know what to do with.

Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 2, 2017

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry
Page 6 panel 2

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Neon Noodle posted:

I am here for lethargic bullshit furries :furcry:

good cause I have more






Krispy Wafer posted:

Are they furries though? I'm getting a more 'edgy Arthur' vibe than 'I want to stick my dick in that'.

that's a pretty amazing descrioption. I never watched arthur as a kid cause his and DWah's faces gave me a weird negative kneejerk reaction, maybe just cause i'd never seen an aardvark before (still haven't)

here's some faces

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Im doing cartoons, here's today's (posted in the GBS thread about the recent New York attack)

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

folder posted:

they are absolutely gorgeous. welcome back


well! there is of course THE tutorial which is a reliable, all-rounder starting resource - i'd recommend the "focus points" and "studies" sections in particular. but if you're familiar with that and feel like stretching out i'd recommend Color and Light, A Guide for the Realist Painter by James Gurney.

frustratingly i can't remember the exact title of another helpful book just now but the best advice i got from it is to get into the habit of colour inventories. take a picture that you like or would like to emulate and identify its constituent colours and map their relative proportions like this. there are some good twitter/ig accounts that do this for movie stills like this which can give you some inspiration for your sci-fi stuff

e: the point of colour inventories is to just be mindful of how you can portray a sense of light harmoniously and economically. after a few you get a feel for how things go together and what combinations work etc. a nice exercise is to take the inventory of a piece and then make your own, following the same colours and proportions

thank you for the reccomendations and again thank you for the frank advice, i didnt get any formal training and most of the people i show my artwork to just say its cool or they like it (which is a great ego boost dont get me wrong)

folder
Oct 9, 2016

Al! posted:

thank you for the reccomendations and again thank you for the frank advice, i didnt get any formal training and most of the people i show my artwork to just say its cool or they like it (which is a great ego boost dont get me wrong)

no worries dude. looking forward to your new stuff :hfive:

from last night:



Shinmera
Mar 25, 2013

I make games!

Felt like doing another scenery today.



I feel like the way I placed the figure into the scene doesn't quite match up with the perspective. I couldn't quite make sense of it. Adding some more detail with debris and stuff might have also helped, but I felt like it might have gotten too crowded too, so I don't know. Overall I think it turned out quite alright, though.

Franchescanado posted:

Do you only draw digital? Maybe experiment with a medium you're uncomfortable/unfamiliar with, like brush and ink, watercolors, pastels, markers, whatever. Using different materials can make you see your art and style differently and help.

Do you ever try to actively break your style? Most of what's in this post are very... pointy, angular. Try to do the complete opposite: only use curves, or do an entire drawing with a single line, or try pointillism--literally anything that isn't what you're already doing. I don't mean to say it's bad--it's not, and I like your drawings, I think you're figures are fine--but I think everyone needs to buck their own trends and do something completely different every once in a while for a new perspective. You put more detail into the figure's bodies while the faces are very simple, so maybe do a series of JUST faces with as much detail as possible. Or make your figures sit, or do a handstand--something dynamic than just a simple standing pose.

I occasionally draw traditionally with pens and brush pens, though not as often as I'd like. As mentioned, I've been meaning to get into painting to break off from what I've been doing so far, but I have difficulty getting started. That's just me being a dumbass, though.

The current style is what evolved out of a much more generic, rounded style, I suppose. I was actually interested to see how things evolved, so I put together a selection of drawings of the past four years: [warning, big]

Sharpest Crayon posted:

It's me, I'm the person quoting from forever ago, but here I doodled a couple of quick & easy ways to do water with lineart:


I guess my problem is more that, when combined with the rest of the scenery, it often ends up looking rather muddled, making it much harder to discern.

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
I painted a deck for a skateboard art auction being run for the local skate park
https://twitter.com/huzzahdave/status/926278601036718085

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Davedave24 posted:

I painted a deck for a skateboard art auction being run for the local skate park
https://twitter.com/huzzahdave/status/926278601036718085

Looks great.

Was still hoping the camera would pan down to a wizard with his tongue hanging out doing sick tricks on his board.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
made this as an avatar for someone, client said i could post it now

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

Neon Noodle posted:

They're all iPad Pro/Procreate except for the black and white ink one, which is a Pentel Pocket Brush on rough paper.

I'm finally an owner of an iPad Pro/Pencil - how are you liking Procreate?

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

Al! posted:

i did some spooky politics drawings for spookween






actually earned me an av comission

gosh these are so cool



another catdragon - 5-10 min doodle

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

Frown Town posted:

I'm finally an owner of an iPad Pro/Pencil - how are you liking Procreate?

It’s the only digital painting app I work in anymore. Seriously I haven’t painted in Photoshop in over a year.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I own half a dozen painting and drawing apps. If you're just starting out save yourself some money and buy Procreate.

My only complaint is the palette system is clunky and I've had trouble getting stuff to import. Everything else is desktop level functionality.

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Al! posted:

made this as an avatar for someone, client said i could post it now



This is wonderfully awful, in a good way

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry
Page 6, panel 3

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Page 6, panel 3


Truly looks 3 dimensional when it's expanded especially :wow:

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

Krispy Wafer posted:

I own half a dozen painting and drawing apps. If you're just starting out save yourself some money and buy Procreate.

My only complaint is the palette system is clunky and I've had trouble getting stuff to import. Everything else is desktop level functionality.

I want a palette system that feels like Corel Painter or Coolorus App for Photoshop.

I'm a professional digital artist who works on a big Cintiq all day- I just felt a little annoyed that the price of Procreate went up a few bucks once the new iPad pros came out - holding out to see if they have a black Friday sale.

I'm also thinking about trying Astropad out - it syncs the Pro with your Mac. Unfortunately I use a PC at work, but it might be handy for my home Macbook setup!

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Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
Dude it costs six dollars.

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