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Der Waffle Mous posted:A pity Masks got the associations it did because I legit enjoy the person they got to do the art for it. What happened with Masks?
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Nov 4, 2017 23:32
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Der Waffle Mous posted:A pity Masks got the associations it did because I legit enjoy the person they got to do the art for it.
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Nov 4, 2017 23:33
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Halloween Jack posted:Not everyone knows what you're talking about when you do these things, you know. Halloween Jack posted:Not everyone knows what you're talking about when you do these things, you know. It's publisher, not creator, defend Zak Sabaath Smith when people protested him at the Ennies saying that Zak is unfairly persecuted. He later retracted that but in the "sorry you were offended" kind of way. It was all typical, spineless centrist bullshit. Nothing worse than centrists, at least Nazis (conservatives) are open about their evil.
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Nov 4, 2017 23:37
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Zoro posted:It's publisher, not creator, defend Zak Sabaath Smith when people protested him at the Ennies saying that Zak is unfairly persecuted. He later retracted that but in the "sorry you were offended" kind of way. It was all typical, spineless centrist bullshit. Nothing worse than centrists, at least Nazis (conservatives) are open about their evil. He didn't directly defend Zak. He used his company's website to call out a friend by name who told Zak to gently caress off because that was too mean. His follow-up post was definitely very "Sorry your feelings were hurt! why don't we see how this all shakes out in a year, eh?" though. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Nov 4, 2017 |
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Nov 4, 2017 23:39
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I'm one of his regular commissioners. (Not of porn, mind, all my requests are SFW.)
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Nov 4, 2017 23:55
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Michael Lee Lunsford has a webcomic and a patreon, if you're not already aware. So, what positions did you have Peter Parker and Pregnant Jessica Drew get in when you got a commission from him?
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Nov 4, 2017 23:56
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Zoro posted:So, what positions did you have Peter Parker and Pregnant Jessica Drew get in when you got a commission from him? Regular Jessica Drew or the Ultimate version(who is a gender bent clone of Peter Parker), this is important
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Nov 5, 2017 00:13
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drrockso20 posted:Regular Jessica Drew or the Ultimate version(who is a gender bent clone of Peter Parker), this is important Both. Threesome. NTR Mary Jane in corner crying.
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Nov 5, 2017 00:14
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Now, now, there's enough clones and permutations of Gwen Stacy to keep Mary Jane happy
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Nov 5, 2017 00:41
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Nuns with Guns posted:Now, now, there's enough clones and permutations of Gwen Stacy to keep Mary Jane happy Gwen Stacy, Ultimate Gwen Spider-Gwen, Gween Poole is my poly-OTP.
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Nov 5, 2017 01:05
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I was about to say that, hey, you can subscribe to his Patreon to narc me out! But then I realized specifically because I don't request nudes, I don't think any of my pieces are actually marked under my ID. Either way, enough detective work and you can easily discover my truly deviant fetish for people with their clothes on. Zoro posted:So, what positions did you have Peter Parker and Pregnant Jessica Drew get in when you got a commission from him? What, no! It's 2007's finest character find and Peter Parker OTP: Carlie Cooper. 
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Nov 5, 2017 01:29
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I was about to say that, hey, you can subscribe to his Patreon to narc me out! But then I realized specifically because I don't request nudes, I don't think any of my pieces are actually marked under my ID. They really, really need to get Peter and Mary Jane back together. Right now, he's just dating some comedian chick.
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Nov 5, 2017 01:32
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Zoro posted:It's publisher, not creator, defend Zak Sabaath Smith when people protested him at the Ennies saying that Zak is unfairly persecuted. He later retracted that but in the "sorry you were offended" kind of way. It was all typical, spineless centrist bullshit. Nothing worse than centrists, at least Nazis (conservatives) are open about their evil. Nuns with Guns posted:He didn't directly defend Zak. He used his company's website to call out a friend by name who told Zak to gently caress off because that was too mean. His follow-up post was definitely very "Sorry your feelings were hurt! why don't we see how this all shakes out in a year, eh?" though. Yeah, what made it extra hosed up wasn't just him defending Zak, it's that he absolutely chucked his own friend under the bus to do so. In a very, very public manner, to boot, and for no reason other then so that he could try to flaunt his own self-righteousness. Mark Diaz Truman is an absolute shitshow of a person.
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Nov 5, 2017 02:12
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Zoro posted:They really, really need to get Peter and Mary Jane back together. Right now, he's just dating some comedian chick. I had to look and see that Dan Slott is still writing Spider-Man? I had a higher tolerance for the guy than most goons, but even I lost patience ages ago; there really needs to be a fresh voice on that book.
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Nov 5, 2017 02:33
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I had to look and see that Dan Slott is still writing Spider-Man? I had a higher tolerance for the guy than most goons, but even I lost patience ages ago; there really needs to be a fresh voice on that book. Apparently Slott has stated that he plans on remaining in Spider-Man forever if allowed to, which sucks
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Nov 5, 2017 02:45
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Renew Your Vows is a good alternate universe story and I like Zdarsky's Spectacular, so there are two good current Parker comics which is enough for me.
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Nov 5, 2017 04:57
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Miles Morales is cool as well.
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Nov 5, 2017 04:58
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drrockso20 posted:Apparently Slott has stated that he plans on remaining in Spider-Man forever if allowed to, which sucks I think a lot of nerds in the same position would do that, but the thing that makes no sense to me is that he's allowed to write the book that long. Like, sales aren't great, haven't been great in years. It only sells relatively well because it's Amazing Spider-man.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:03
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If I was put in charge of Spider-Man, the first story would be Peter and Mary Jane getting back together and then it be followed by Peter and Miles having to team up to fight the tenacious twelve. And then we would do someone one shot compressed stories to make it easier for new readers to just jump in. Then I think a crime story with Mafia undertones involving Hammerhead Tombstone and Kingpin in a power struggle might be fun. I got more ideas but I'm also a poo poo writer who should never be allowed to write anything.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:08
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Lurdiak posted:Like, sales aren't great, haven't been great in years. so it's a comic book
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Nov 5, 2017 05:09
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Oh, then I'd follow up with a story where Mary Jane gets pregnant and she will end up having a kid. Like the baby will get born. I also want to do a story where Mary Jane get spider powers in the become a spider family like in renew your vows. It's working so great for Batman and Superman but I don't know why Marvel hasn't followed suit. And also flirt with making Norman Osborn more like Doctor Doom because you can never have too much Doctor Doom.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:12
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Plutonis posted:There's a lot of hentai dudes who do character designs for videogames (Valkyria Chronicles, Xenoblade 2), just stop giving a poo poo Hell yeah. Make that money, hentai boys.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:15
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Brother Entropy posted:so it's a comic book Yeah, isn't that any of the main DC trinity books since forever? I think Marvel editorial is just focusing on the media side. They started diminishing mutants, the X-Men, and the Fantastic Four just to gently caress over Fox and make them give in like Sony. Between that and the whole Secret Empire, diversity is bad thing, they don't care as much as DC's editorial board. Not to say DC is hitting it out of the park and the two wax and wane in terms of quality but Marvel currently seems like it's keeping people satisfied until the next movie.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:56
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Zoro posted:Miles Morales is cool as well. Too bad he's stuck in a comic that doesn't think he is.
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Nov 5, 2017 14:14
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I'm glad that Fox now has stopped giving a poo poo since Disney won't let them make money out of X-Men merchandise and licensing and thus decided to make the new X-Men movie a loving horror movie
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Nov 5, 2017 14:20
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X-Men and mutants and such are a decent concept for comics/movies/etc. Captain America and Spider-man and the Hulk and Thor and such are decent concept for comics/movies/etc. Putting the two of them together ruins what makes both of them good and it's good that they're different movie franchises despite the underlying reasons being dumb. Same goes for Inhumans. This is my Hot Take on the matter. Fake edit: It's a crying shame about the fantastic four though.
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Nov 5, 2017 15:34
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I disagree with that hot take as it applies to comics but don't particularly care about it with the movies
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Nov 5, 2017 15:49
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Replacing mutants with Inhumans in Marvel would at least make the continued oppression of mutantkind make more sense, since the Inhumans are secret alien sleeper agents who're supposed to owe their loyalty to an alien king on the Moon, instead of "normal people who got superhero powers through dumb genetic luck."
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Nov 5, 2017 15:58
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Yeah, isn't that any of the main DC trinity books since forever? Marvel just recently did a relaunch of the X-Books to jolt some life into them, and they've been a pretty decent step up for the most part. As far as the editorial board goes, I don't know if they're unaware but definitely have to look at all the different things going wrong at once in the company. They did (obviously temporarily) remove a ton of the major characters at roughly the same time to have new characters or old sidekicks take over for a while, often in a cynical push to recreate the organic success of Miss Marvel. At the same time that was happening, Hydra-Cap was revealed and Nick Spencer is still making GBS threads his pants in twitter slapfights over it to keep that in the public eye. The Secret Empire event turned out to be an incoherent mess and there were some really bone-headed attempts at promoting it, like asking retailers to Hydra-up their stores. The double shipping and insane variant cover ordering rules schemes Marvel has been doing to inflate sales are also pissing off comic retailers like crazy and leaving them with a ton of unsellable, nonreturnable stock. Meanwhile, over in DC during that time, the Rebirth relaunch has dialed back a ton of unpopular stuff from the nu52 reboot to pacify fans. And they've definitely got some more risky solo and line books going, but also a ton of strong anchor books for the major characters as well. They also started in on the twice-monthly comics earlier and the quality on those is mostly good. In addition, their comics are a bit cheaper across the line with a lot at $2.99 vs Marvel's standard $3.99, and DC has been a lot friendlier with return policies on overstock at stores.
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Brother Entropy posted:so it's a comic book Right but I'm just saying, having this much free rein over the most popular character would make more sense if Slott's ASM was selling gangbusters or getting really high critical acclaim. But it's not. So it's weird that Slott of all people gets to hang onto the book for so long.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:00
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Lurdiak posted:Right but I'm just saying, having this much free rein over the most popular character would make more sense if Slott's ASM was selling gangbusters or getting really high critical acclaim. But it's not. So it's weird that Slott of all people gets to hang onto the book for so long. It makes more sense when you remember the Dan Slotts kidnapped the editors children and won't give them back. Puts a lot of things in perspective.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:02
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iirc liefeld stuck around as long as he did just by being good at keeping deadlines and being a very easy guy to work with, it could easily be something behind the scenes like that
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Brother Entropy posted:iirc liefeld stuck around as long as he did just by being good at keeping deadlines and being a very easy guy to work with, it could easily be something behind the scenes like that Liefeld was also insanely popular with speculators and readers alike, at least for a time, and contributed to what was seen as the best financial years for the industry (it was a bubble and it nearly killed them but they didn't know that at the time).
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Marvel's other problem is that they're are a bunch of gimmicks you can you use to boost sales, but eventually they stop working and even damage long-term sales of your books if you over-use them, and Marvel has been hitting those hard for the last several years. There have been so many giant crossover events full of unnecessary spinoff books that were horribly executed and didn't have any sort of worthwhile payoff (but did set up the next big dumb event) that Marvel can't interest readers or retailers in new events like Legacy or Generations because they've been burned so many times before. There were always collectors willing to pay a premium for rare variant covers, but Marvel has so flooded the market with those (and the rarity for them is now so high) that fatigue has set in and collectors and retailers have stopped buying them. Another way to goose book sales is to relaunch a title with new "#1" issue and renumbering, and Marvel has again overused that over the last few years (seriously, how many different Spider-Man #1s have there been in the last five years?) that they get no bump now when they do it. They've really driven themselves into a ditch and I don't see any easy way out of it. I'd suggest a burn-it-all-to-the-ground line wide reboot of the universe, but they just did that with the horrifically botched Secret Wars event, and see above about people treating giant events with extreme skepticism. Marvel has made some fitfull strides in improving representation in their books, with more titles featuring women and PoC (as characters and creators), so naturally you can guess what loud chunks of the online fanbase and even several on-the-record Marvel executives have blamed for Marvel's problems. :eyeroll: Meanwhile, the movie arm of Marvel just might be the most reliably and wildly successful movie studio in history, and shows no signs of stopping or even slowing down (see: this weekend's box office for Thor Ragnarok) FMguru fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Nov 5, 2017 |
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Marvel and DC comics are just about constantly trounced by manga in sales and they refuse to learn any lessons from that.
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I don't think universe reboots have ever really helped anything. They seem like a good idea, but usually just create more problems than they solve in the long-term. I mean, the only ones I can think of that were reallyl successful at all were Crisis on Infinite Earths and the Ultimate line of books, and the former had continuity issues that were so bad as a result they felt they had to have repeated crossovers to try and resolve them, and the latter fell into a black hole of shock-value "We can do anything here!" events. Trying to "solve continuity" is poisonous notion more often than not, in my experience, or a placebo on the greater issues with the industry at best. It just ignores the fact that the comics industry is made up of fans who like bringing back popular ideas whether or not they're "in continuity", so any attempt to wipe the slate clean just gets the same material dragged back in again and again. Continuity is a scapegoat but is almost never the actual problem, IMO.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I don't think universe reboots have ever really helped anything. They seem like a good idea, but usually just create more problems than they solve in the long-term. I mean, the only ones I can think of that were reallyl successful at all were Crisis on Infinite Earths and the Ultimate line of books, and the former had continuity issues that were so bad as a result they felt they had to have repeated crossovers to try and resolve them, and the latter fell into a black hole of shock-value "We can do anything here!" events. It worked really well for Star Wars though. They rebooted their continuity and it is making gangbusters on them. We can talk about Marvel comic sales, but they're Star Wars lineup books is constantly selling at Batman levels in every series. And that's before considering digital and trades which actually probably are more likely for Star Wars fans than they are for Cape comic fans.
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DC's two most recent reboots (New 52 and Rebirth) did produce sustained year-long boosts in sales across the line. Note, they were five years apart, and the second one was accompanied with multiple editorial changes to make their books Less lovely. And good point about Star Wars. They blew up the esoteric, overgrown Expanded Universe and went back to books about what Luke and Vader and Han got up to between the movies, and sold books by the ton.
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Zoro posted:It worked really well for Star Wars though. They rebooted their continuity and it is making gangbusters on them. We can talk about Marvel comic sales, but they're Star Wars lineup books is constantly selling at Batman levels in every series. And that's before considering digital and trades which actually probably are more likely for Star Wars fans than they are for Cape comic fans. But they didn't do a reboot. They did a culling of licensed material, which is very, very different. It's not like they did just did a flat removal of previous canon - Episodes 4-6 exist, hell, Episodes 1-3 exist even though the first fan reflex would be to burn that to the ground. (I don't think it would be a good idea to do so, mind.) Mainstream comics can't easily do that kind of thing due to the shared universe - while the Star Wars prequels had calls out to the EU, they were so minor as to be generally ignorable. The core continuity was preserved. DC tried to do that by preserving certain old stories within New 52, but it didn't functionally work because those stories were so incestuously tied to the old universe (or just contradicted the actual direction they wanted to take future books in, like Batgirl). I mean, yeah, a reboot can give sales boosts, but unless you're doing that every year, things revert back to pre-reboot sales figures pretty quickly.
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