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Shamefully, I've only seen S1 the whole way through, the last episode of S2 3 times, and FWWM twice. I ran out of time to watch S2 before S3 started, but my BF is a Lynch fanatic and filled me in when I got lost, so I don't feel like I was in the weeds at any point. Do need to revisit the old series before we get into the S3 Blu-ray, though.
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All this talk of lore made me realize that in S3, "Black Lodge" is only ever said once, the White Lodge is never mentioned, and garmonbozia is never spoken of.
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Nov 6, 2017 16:59
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I'm still not entirely convinced the White Lodge is ever depicted in the show at any point.
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Nov 6, 2017 17:11
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Cromulent posted:All this talk of lore made me realize that in S3, "Black Lodge" is only ever said once, the White Lodge is never mentioned, and garmonbozia is never spoken of. It's never mentioned in name, but it sure shows up a couple of times.
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Nov 6, 2017 17:15
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I really don't trust names people assign to the other places to be accurate or descriptive.
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Nov 6, 2017 17:18
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Cromulent posted:All this talk of lore made me realize that in S3, "Black Lodge" is only ever said once, the White Lodge is never mentioned, and garmonbozia is never spoken of. It's interesting what parts of the lore were not or seldom mentioned. Blue Rose came to the forefront. Hell, even the latter season 2 Project Blue Book got a mention!
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Nov 6, 2017 17:20
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The ending goes out of its way to mention the loving Tremonds and Chalfonts. I still don't know what to make of that.
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Nov 6, 2017 17:21
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Raxivace posted:The ending goes out of its way to mention the loving Tremonds and Chalfonts. I think it's a clue that something is wrong. Cooper seems close to giving up in that scene and falling into the Richard dream, but that's something that seems to perk him up and make him question that reality.
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Nov 6, 2017 17:57
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Slum Village posted:It's interesting what parts of the lore were not or seldom mentioned. Blue Rose came to the forefront. Hell, even the latter season 2 Project Blue Book got a mention! Project Blue Book was a real thing, though, not necessarily just Twin Peaks lore.
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Nov 6, 2017 18:41
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chime_on posted:Project Blue Book was a real thing, though, not necessarily just Twin Peaks lore. So is the black lodge. Go on, prove me wrong 
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Nov 6, 2017 19:31
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OldMemes posted:The most hopeful reading of Cooper's fate is that the final scene of FWWM goes after the scream. I like that. I'm probably going to end up going with that interpretation, because the thought of Laura being denied that grace and peace at the end of FWWM bothers me so much. I think Cooper's stint as Dougie may have led to some of his hubris in trying to change things. He was able to improve others' lives just through being a passive guy; he may well have thought that active change could make an even better improvement in things but didn't take into account that helping Janey-E and the mob brothers on an everyday level is a lot different than rewriting history and purging the world of a force of evil.
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Nov 6, 2017 23:20
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Hijinks Ensue posted:I like that. I'm probably going to end up going with that interpretation, because the thought of Laura being denied that grace and peace at the end of FWWM bothers me so much. Well, and as you said, he did all that by being passive, not active. Then he springs into action, and...
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Nov 7, 2017 01:44
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Cromulent posted:All this talk of lore made me realize that in S3, "Black Lodge" is only ever said once, the White Lodge is never mentioned, and garmonbozia is never spoken of. When is the black lodge mentioned?
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Nov 7, 2017 05:26
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I think Cooper's doppelganger talks to Daria about it on the bed, right before he shoots her in the head.
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Nov 7, 2017 05:40
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NObodyNOWHERE posted:I think Cooper's doppelganger talks to Daria about it on the bed, right before he shoots her in the head. Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuzNYbLd9ZU
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Nov 7, 2017 21:03
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Hijinks Ensue posted:I like that. I'm probably going to end up going with that interpretation, because the thought of Laura being denied that grace and peace at the end of FWWM bothers me so much. I think equating the will and action of trying to change something bad as hubris is pretty toxic. You don't change anything by being passive. Dougie wasn't passive, he was being led. He did the barest amount of effort in the right situation that led certain events to play out. He was helped by Mike and by Cooper's waking mind punching through the the sleepwalking Dougie. Cooper did what he did and it'll probably lead to another adventure because that's what these things do.
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Mark Frost did an AMA on Reddit today. He's a bit more open than Lynch when confirming/denying things that happened, so there's some interesting things in there: https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/7bn45h/im_mark_frost_cocreator_of_twin_peaks_and_author/ There's also this: quote:What happened to Dick Tremayne? Inquiring minds want to know please.
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Cromulent posted:Mark Frost did an AMA on Reddit today. He's a bit more open than Lynch when confirming/denying things that happened, so there's some interesting things in there: https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/7bn45h/im_mark_frost_cocreator_of_twin_peaks_and_author/ Nearly that entire thread is him answering serious questions with jokes, being evasive, and giving almost no real answers to anything. I wouldn't call that open. Reading his responses, I'm not sure why he did the AMA in the first place.
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Nov 9, 2017 03:20
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He told us that Bobby and Mike are in a bowling league together and I'm mad that that's not in the show.
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Nov 9, 2017 03:27
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Bobby and Mike barking at each over a strike on league night.
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Nov 9, 2017 03:40
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I liked the implication that bob as a bowling ball was the obvious logical way to portray the character
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Nov 9, 2017 04:07
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...! posted:Nearly that entire thread is him answering serious questions with jokes, being evasive, and giving almost no real answers to anything. I wouldn't call that open. Reading his responses, I'm not sure why he did the AMA in the first place. Lynch did the same in his AMA but both sprinkled in things here and there.
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Nov 9, 2017 09:18
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Still can’t believe Twin Peaks ended with a boss fight against a Bubble from Zelda
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Maarak posted:Bobby and Mike barking at each over a strike on league night. This isn't 'Nam! There are rules! I just started watching Twin Peaks like six weeks ago for the first time ever. I finished season two this past weekend (boy it was tough going there for awhile) and am three episodes into season 3. I have no idea what the gently caress is going on but it's definitely entertaining to see David Lynch with a big budget and carte blanche to make his crazy dreams a reality. I've never seen anything quite like that void scene from episode 3, or hell the glass box. Definitely visuals you don't forget about easily.
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Nail Rat posted:This isn't 'Nam! There are rules! Hooooo boy are you in for a treat in episode 8
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TheBizzness posted:Hooooo boy are you in for a treat in episode 8
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kaworu posted:Oh, poo poo. The red room scenes definitely seem like they exist out of time. There's a clear paradox when Cooper's about to swap with Mr. C and gets sent through the glass box right before the experiment appears in it, which was in a previous episode. I bet you could rearrange the red room scenes throughout the series in lots of interesting and suggestive ways.
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In looking back at the entire series, I think one of the most remarkable things about the show is that they had Cooper in the second episode sitting in the red room 25 years older. The fact that that particular mystery was paid off by actually filming the show 25 years later and Cooper just sits there waiting the whole time in the story is mind-blowing.
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Nov 10, 2017 04:25
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Borrowed Ladder posted:In looking back at the entire series, I think one of the most remarkable things about the show is that they had Cooper in the second episode sitting in the red room 25 years older. Twin Peaks loving owns so hard.
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Nov 10, 2017 05:08
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I guess we're never getting a Mitchum Brothers and Candie Girls spinoff now, after the Robert Knepper news.
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Nov 10, 2017 05:10
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There was a fish IN the percolator!
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Kart Barfunkel posted:There was a fish IN the percolator! I say that to my wife at least 3 times a week.
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Data Graham posted:Still can’t believe Twin Peaks ended with a boss fight against a Bubble from Zelda Putting it that way makes me like that sequence even more.
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I'm looking for stuff to decorate my office wall and came across these posters. I don't like ordering stuff from overseas usually but these are really bloody good. I wouldn't blame anyone with cash to burn for getting the full set. Only downside is that none of them shows Freddie. Also I only just realized but our mail clerk is always trying to get folks to join him for lunch and he's the spitting image of Big Ed.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Also I only just realized but our mail clerk is always trying to get folks to join him for lunch and he's the spitting image of Big Ed. Don't make that poor man eat alone. 
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Nov 13, 2017 20:51
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I know selling fan art is a legal grey area but tracing over stills has got to be illegal
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And More posted:Don't make that poor man eat alone.
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Yeah the pure traces are definitely the worst of the bunch. Style's still cool though, and the ones for episodes 1, 8 and 17 are pretty great, for example. e: and 3
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I did my first academic conference recently and presented a paper on Twin Peaks, so that was fun. As much as I'd like season 4, I think the current ending works perfectly, and season 3 was kind of lighting in a bottle that could only work in those exact circumstances. The fact that it all came together like it did is a part of why it's so impressive. Cooper as the tragic hero, who is either destroyed by Judy, or outsmarts her, depending on your interpretation, just works so well with his character arc. Cooper is naive and idealistic to a fault, and that's what makes him so likable. He spends twenty-five years in another dimension, a few weeks in a dream, then as soon as he wakes up is straight back to business. I do wish Kyle Maclachlan had been able to play restored Cooper for a bit longer before the Richard scenes. The way he delivers the "100%" and "Are you Freddy?" lines is almost seamless with his protrayal in the original show.
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