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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i'm worried about more immediate concerns such as: can I even walk around chicago without being pelted with garbage and Vienna All-beef Franks or will the packers win another game this season Just tell everyone that you like to kiss titties, too, and everything should be okay. Be sure to do it in a Superfans accent, though.
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Chris James 2 posted:At least Rodgers got a ring This but RG3.
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fwiw the Packers base is so incredibly outraged about Capers' performance I think there's a decent chance he goes away this year. It's just the same old poo poo over and over. The Packers coaching and front office badly needs fresh blood. I don't mind Ted's drafting but he's so passive with everything else that I honestly would just relegate him to Head Scout or something, and put Eliot Wolf in charge. Our free agents this year have been doing pretty well (injuries aside) and I have a healthy suspicion that it's Wolf behind all these FA moves, they're way too uncharacteristic for it to be Ted turning over a new leaf. I'm rapidly losing any respect I had for Fat Mike and am becoming increasingly convinced that it's just that Rodgers is such a transcendental player and people are loath to attribute so much success all on one single player and are giving the people who surround him too many parts of the credit. What would this Packers team be like with Belichick or Reid or even a young coach like McVay? Pederson or Carroll? Like obviously I'm naming some of the very best coaches in the league, and I'm still not convinced that we get an upgrade by replacing Fat Mike, but I believe this team has more than enough talent (with a healthy Rodgers) to be utterly dominant. It feels like the coaching and front office has been content to coast along, insisting on their philosophy for the past 7 years, instead of striving continually to be better than the best. "Obviously," it seems as if they say to themselves, "it's working because {we won the Super Bowl} {we went 15-1} {we went to the NFCCG multiple times} . . ."
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so looking at the lions schedule they face potentially two teams with a winning record(discounting if the Bengals turn around their season by week 16) in the Vikings and Ravens(who play the Packers and Watson-less Texans the next weeks before their game against the Lions) Edit: Also, there's a not out of the realm possibility that the bears could win the division when the vikings eventually crash with a 10-6 record(They're not beating the eagles lmao) GenericMartini fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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How on Earth do you keep a backup job for two years and perform like that?
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Speleothing posted:How on Earth do you keep a backup job for two years and perform like that? He had an amazing preseason a few years ago, and didn't play any significant snaps. And during practice he goes up against a Dom Capers D.
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Is this some optical illusion where there's not actually a sight lane to that receiver between the two OL or is it as bad as it looks
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The Lions will beat the Browns because I don't think losing to the Browns is allowable in the natural universe. However, the Lions are setting themselves up for a crushing loss to the Bears.
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There are 4 defenders missing from that picture so it's probably trap coverage on the left receiver expecting Jordy to run exactly that route and the left receiver to run a fly to the end zone with Cobb and the RB in man on the right? I'd have to go back and watch the all 22 though
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Hot Diggity! posted:They broke that streak last season iirc Two seasons ago, which is why he said 2 out of 3. Of course we couldn’t break it earlier against a team that was resting all its good players when we were fighting for playoff seeding.
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God drat it Bears, you better beat the Packers this weekend. You are coming off the bye. They are coming off a short week and starting Brett Hundley. I am flying down to Texas to spend the following weekend with my sister and her Packer fan fiance. You must not lose!
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Nov 7, 2017 15:34
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I don't want to see Capers there another year. There is absolutely talent on this defense. Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Nick Perry, Blake Martinez, Josh Jones, and Morgan Burnett all varying degrees of above average. Jake Ryan plays the run well, Haha is having a down year but still passable most of the time. Davon House is getting beaten on certain routes but is a step up from corner the past few seasons. Randall started poorly but hasn't been playing nearly as badly as he started the season. I watch them play and it's the same thing every week. Stop on first and second down, huge conversion on third down. Soft man coverage and gigantic loving zones. They play prevent on third down in the first quarter of the god drat game.
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fishing with the fam posted:God drat it Bears, you better beat the Packers this weekend. You are coming off the bye. They are coming off a short week and starting Brett Hundley. I am flying down to Texas to spend the following weekend with my sister and her Packer fan fiance. The only reason Dom Capers still has a job is that he managed to embarrass Jay Cutler twice per year (3 times in the 2010 season  ). I'm currently hoping that Trubisky scores a million points on Sunday, so we can get rid of Capers.
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fishing with the fam posted:God drat it Bears, you better beat the Packers this weekend. You are coming off the bye. They are coming off a short week and starting Brett Hundley. I am flying down to Texas to spend the following weekend with my sister and her Packer fan fiance. the bears are coached by John fox lol at all the Packers fans despairing after one loss get over yourselves
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Nov 7, 2017 15:55
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Packers 0-3 since Rodgers' injury. Remaining schedule: @Bears Ravens @Steelers Bucs @Browns @Panthers Vikings @Lions
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Chris James 2 posted:Packers 0-3 since Rodgers' injury. Remaining schedule: L, L, L, Push, Push, L, L, L
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mastershakeman posted:the bears are coached by John fox Couple points to remember here: it's been 3 losses in a row since Rodgers went down, and we've been calling for Capers head for a while now. Hundley is not good either. His first half performance against NO was good enough to make me go "huh, he may actually be a decent bandaid", then somehow in the 2nd he proceeded to poo poo himself and continued it last night.
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Nov 7, 2017 16:16
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he can make the throws, he is just bad at progressions and mccarthy's play calling has been laughable. TURN HIM LOOSE MIKEY BOI
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mastershakeman posted:lol at all the Packers fans despairing after one loss get over yourselves Three losses, and the team has looked putrid in every single one, and, most importantly, the issues we've been criticizing for years in the coaches are front-and-center in every one of these losses. Rodgers isn't back for another five weeks at absolute minimum and even if he comes back (he shouldn't) it's just going to paper over the problems.
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I was gonna feel sympathy for Packers fans because I can't imagine how much I'd hate life if Stafford went down but they showed that bullshit Hail Mary again that only happened because Rodgers milked a bullshit facemask call out of the ref, so. gently caress all of you, I hope Fat Mike and Capers get 20-year extensions.
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I like the Lions and Bears. Mother fucc 2 the Vikings tho
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Good Will Hrunting posted:I like the Lions and Bears. Mother fucc 2 the Vikings tho VJeff posted:gently caress all of you, I hope Fat Mike and Capers get 20-year extensions. Goondolences over your lost season.
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OxySnake posted:Goondolences over your lost season. its almost as if i don't care because this will bring about chahahahaha god damnit
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Shangri-Law School posted:Five first-rounders and two second-rounders started for the Packers defense last night. The personnel isn't the issue outside of the pass rush.
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Shangri-Law School posted:Five first-rounders and two second-rounders started for the Packers defense last night. Dom! Bring in Colin, Packers. Please. Hundley is bad.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Let's talk about how dumb the Lions offensive playcalling is It's really dumb
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Let's talk about how dumb the Lions offensive playcalling is Good: throwing the ball Bad: running the ball
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what are you talking about they absolutely shredded every cushy zone put in their way last night on 3rd and 6+
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Shangri-Law School posted:Five first-rounders and two second-rounders started for the Packers defense last night. Right? The issue is either coaching or talent evaluation. And considering that all 7 of these players (plus players like Martinez, Burnett, and Daniels who were picked up in later rounds) have had multiple good performances, you have to conclude it's the coaching. Detroit_Dogg posted:Let's talk about how dumb the Lions offensive playcalling is I still don't understand why they ran the ball like 5 straight times at the goal line instead of just making a quick throw.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Right? The issue is either coaching or talent evaluation. And considering that all 7 of these players (plus players like Martinez, Burnett, and Daniels who were picked up in later rounds) have had multiple good performances, you have to conclude it's the coaching. There is almost no way to not give up 5+ yards when you play 7+ off the receivers with corners and an absurdly deep cover-2 kinda thing with the safeties which they did on most first downs. They're basically in prevent defense the entire game. This obviously creates mismatch issues underneath when they don't rush with linebackers and opens HUGE loving holes in the flat for bubble screens etc when they do bring pressure. The times pressure got home, the hot read was always open for a huge gain because of how deep the safeties were playing. The times they dropped backers in coverage you had poo poo like Blake Martinez on Golden Tate lol
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Good Will Hrunting posted:what are you talking about they absolutely shredded every cushy zone put in their way last night on 3rd and 6+ The Dom Capers adjustment.
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Remember when Matt Stafford ran over some poor loving Titans cornerback last year that was pretty good http://www.detroitlions.com/media-center/videos/HIGHLIGHT-Stafford-plows-over-defender-on-the-run/41519011-8eb7-48d4-ba1b-17db3e71acfd
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MikeCrotch posted:Remember when Matt Stafford ran over some poor loving Titans cornerback last year QBs trucking people always brings me joy. Not as good as Luck that one time back in college, but still good none the less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFbqCrTzdzs
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I think Green Bay aside from Rodgers is not an especially talented team relative to the league. Maybe the ire should be toward Ted Thompson? this is from a few days ago so not updated for MNF: quote:Here’s a look at Green Bay’s defense during the Dom Capers era:
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SKULL.GIF posted:I still don't understand why they ran the ball like 5 straight times at the goal line instead of just making a quick throw.
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There's actually plenty of talent at some positions, but not being able to get a great pass rusher is a serious issue. It's a passing league and having a pass rusher (or even the threat of it) makes everyone in the secondary's job a lot easier. Their corners are routinely asked to cover for a long time. The corners are actually pretty ok in short yardage situations where they're asked to cover 1 on 1 and Damarious Randall has become a fundamentally sound tackler but the soft zones absolutely get shredded. McCarthy and Capers are just bad planners. Uncreative and can never decide what they want to do with execution besides be Bad.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:There's actually plenty of talent at some positions, but not being able to get a great pass rusher is a serious issue. Julius Peppers has 7.5 sacks in Carolina.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Julius Peppers has 7.5 sacks in Carolina. a scheme in which he is a substantially better fit for his size and level of athleticism now
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