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We'll always have Beavis.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 02:51 |
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The reason Steppenwolf's face looks so bad is because the industry-standard facial motion capture solution is currently tied up in a legal battle over stolen technology. Scanline VFX tried as best they could to replicate its features for Justice League, but obviously failed. The case over the MOVA facial capture is actually really interesting: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hollywood-confronts-a-copyright-argument-potential-mass-disruption-1049516 ""[A]n end-user's role in creating a matrix is marginal. Creating a matrix is unlike the creative process used in many computer art programs, which permit an end-user to create an original work of art in an electronic medium. It is fair to say that users of such programs often supply the lion's share of the creativity to create the screen display." ""The MOVA Contour system takes two-dimensional camera captures as input, and the program then synthesizes them into three-dimensional outputs with subtlety and artistry, based on creative choices made by its programmers and embodied in its copyrighted software instructions," " "Rearden is saying that the film director is limited by artistic choices already made by the programmer — and what actually is produced comes through the engine of technology."
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 02:52 |
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ungulateman posted:The communion scene clarifies exactly what's coming, but the theatrical version cuts directly from Lex saying 'ding ding ding ding' to the 'angels and demons' portrait from earlier - except it's upside down, so the demons are coming from above. Reminder that a major complaint about BVS was "bad editing".
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 02:59 |
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Away all Goats posted:Steppenwolf looks kinda neat I guess, in a video game boss kind of way. He looks like a dark souls cosplayer.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 02:59 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Reminder that a major complaint about BVS was "bad editing". Up until Batman fights Superman, the editing was horrible. Almost aimless in how it was structured. Nothing flowed it just happened.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 03:28 |
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CelticPredator posted:Up until Batman fights Superman, the editing was horrible. Almost aimless in how it was structured. Nothing flowed it just happened. Example?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 03:38 |
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I defend the films, but the editing feels abrupt. Scenes end and all of a sudden we're somewhere else without any kind of establishing shots. I liked the theatrical cut well enough, but since Ultimate came out I haven't seen it since the theater so I can't give specific examples. But at the time I remember thinking it jumped around a lot and didn't quite flow together.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 04:28 |
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The "establishing shot" complaint is totally nonsensical. This isn't Full House!
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 04:31 |
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Davros1 posted:Cesar Romero as the Joker
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 04:38 |
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Whats the over/under on the final rottentomatoes score? I'll take the under on 30%.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 05:04 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:That’s why his portrayal of the Joker is the most insane version. There's one ep of 60's Batman where the Joker becomes a celebrated artist, and begins working as an instructor to Gotham's elite. At one point, one his students cheerfully asks what they're going to be doing next, and he looks at her and says "Oh, I'm going to ransom you all." It was seriously chilling.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 05:06 |
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an adult beverage posted:Whats the over/under on the final rottentomatoes score? I'll take the under on 30%. I predict it will end up between 30 and 50 percent.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 07:28 |
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Davros1 posted:There's one ep of 60's Batman where the Joker becomes a celebrated artist, and begins working as an instructor to Gotham's elite. At one point, one his students cheerfully asks what they're going to be doing next, and he looks at her and says "Oh, I'm going to ransom you all." The 60s Joker had a lot of quirks that I think informed later versions of him, like being near-supernaturally lucky, and an earnest enthusiasm for art and creativity in his own sociopathic way.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 07:48 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The "establishing shot" complaint is totally nonsensical. This isn't Full House! It's important to know where characters are. It helps flesh out a story.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 10:40 |
CelticPredator posted:It's important to know where characters are. It helps flesh out a story. Christ it’s not hard
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 14:21 |
I personally really like the editing in beavis and have zero interest in watching the ultimate cut, as the editing reflects the nightmarish breakdown batman is experiencing throughout the movie.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 15:16 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The "establishing shot" complaint is totally nonsensical. This isn't Full House!
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 16:54 |
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CelticPredator posted:It's important to know where characters are. It helps flesh out a story. In which scenes did you not know where the characters were? Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 8, 2017 |
# ? Nov 8, 2017 17:36 |
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I personally really like the editing in beavis and have zero interest in watching the ultimate cut, as the editing reflects the nightmarish breakdown batman is experiencing throughout the movie. But I don't watch comic book movies to vicariously experience the psychological anguish of its heroes.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 17:36 |
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Habibi posted:But I don't watch comic book movies to vicariously experience the psychological anguish of its heroes. You may not consciously desire that, but it would be remiss of you to ignore that the alienation and anguish of superheroes is a convention of the genre. There's no lack of psychological anguish in, say, X-Men, Spider-Man, Hulk, Captain America, even Iron Man and Doctor Strange. With Batman in particular, the idea of him being tortured and obsessive is an irrevocable component of what makes him compelling. Beavis just finds new and visually nuanced ways of depicting this, and rather than just making it a 'trait' of the character, foregrounds it as the central conflict of the story. Bruce's pathology isn't just this one aspect that, like, potentially stands in the way of resolving 'the real problem.' It is the problem. Which is to say, Beavis commits the sin of crafting a story in which character comes first.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 18:03 |
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I'd like this for every scene change in a Marvel movie. "WAKANDA!" "STEVE'S BATHROOM!" "AUNT MAY'S DRAWER CHEST!" "INSIDE OF BLACK WIDOW'S PURSE!"
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 18:17 |
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I'll take my character adversity via story arc and plotting, not by way of jarring firsthand sensory experience.quote:Which is to say, Beavis commits the sin of crafting a story in which character comes first. It committed some sins alright.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 18:24 |
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Habibi posted:I'll take my character adversity via story arc and plotting, not by way of jarring firsthand sensory experience. Have you considered reading books?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 18:27 |
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Habibi posted:I'll take my character adversity via story arc and plotting, not by way of jarring firsthand sensory experience. I have good news, then: Beavis has both.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 18:37 |
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When supeemans was in the bathtub with lady I did not no where he was. was he in a private jet flying over the bermuda triangel?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:21 |
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UmOk posted:When supeemans was in the bathtub with lady I did not no where he was. was he in a private jet flying over the bermuda triangel? superman is dead
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:25 |
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I love that scene with him and Lois in the apt.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:26 |
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MacheteZombie posted:I love that scene with him and Lois in the apt. It's really great
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:29 |
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CelticPredator posted:It's important to know where characters are. It helps flesh out a story. The "establishing shot" rule is not dogmatic.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:32 |
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MacheteZombie posted:I love that scene with him and Lois in the apt. Lol. How do you know he was in an apartment? No establishing shot
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:32 |
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how did superman get to the top of that mountain?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:34 |
UmOk posted:Lol. How do you know he was in an apartment? No establishing shot Epistemiologically, do we even know what a character, or set, is?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:38 |
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SleepCousinDeath posted:how did superman get to the top of that mountain? More importantly, which mountain was it? UmOk posted:Lol. How do you know he was in an apartment? No establishing shot I never know when you're messing with me please establish if you're kidding or not in the future.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:38 |
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Epistemiologically, do we even know what a character, or set, is? We would know what they if they would establish them in some way. Perhaps with a shot?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:42 |
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MacheteZombie posted:More importantly, which mountain was it? My E-sarcasm is as bad as my spoken sarcasm.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:43 |
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I am actually gonna come to CelticPredator's defense a bit. I found the theatrical version of BvS is jarring, but I think he's misdiagnosed the cause. It's because there are many disparate plot threads and the movie cuts between them without showing the obvious relations. So you have things like (and I'm doing this from memory, so please forgive inaccuracies) Clark Kent stepping out of the frame to investigate Batman, and then a cut to Lois barging into a bathroom to talk about a bullet with a general. And other than the thematic theme of "investigation" they don't seem very married to each other narrative-wise, they don't flow smoothly, the jointing is rough. This would be ok except IIRC the individual scenes are extremely short, so it's this sort of staccato rhythm of jumps between scenes with no obvious connection. So it gets that sort of dream-like quality of jumping to different places and times without really interacting with each other, which I found jarring. Now in the Ultimate/Director's Cut, the scenes are given more time to breath, and the individual threads have more elements, so the rhythm gets much more relaxed and the scenes live and become more comprehensible and the plot connections more explicit while at the same time losing that dream quality. The movie becomes much more conventional. I can see why some people wouldn't like that, but I did.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 19:51 |
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Davros1 posted:There's one ep of 60's Batman where the Joker becomes a celebrated artist, and begins working as an instructor to Gotham's elite. At one point, one his students cheerfully asks what they're going to be doing next, and he looks at her and says "Oh, I'm going to ransom you all." Lol at this guy getting scared by 60s batman villains
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 20:16 |
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Is this the ironic contrarian BvS/Suicide Squad was achktually good thread? BvS is dogshit, and SS was one of the worst major studio releases of the last decade.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 20:51 |
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Suicide Sqwad rules so hard. I like it better than beavis, which is also extremely good. Sincerely.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 20:54 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 05:44 |
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an adult beverage posted:Is this the ironic contrarian BvS/Suicide Squad was achktually good thread? BvS is dogshit, and SS was one of the worst major studio releases of the last decade. Suicide Squad won an Oscar.
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