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Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

If I could still rent movies I'd use the poo poo out of the drive, but Blockbuster owned my town before its death, and Redbox Canada went under.

So this. There is hardly anywhere to rent 4k blu-rays. I go with 4k Blu-Ray for HDR/4K and lossless audio. I have a feeling once the rental market catches up, more and more people will be seeing the differences. It doesn't help however that it is confusing as hell for the general consumer.

Have a 4k? Awesome. Which HDR standard does it support?

Have a receiver you want to run that through? Are your HDMI Ports HDCP 2.2 compliant to pass 4k/HDR through the receiver when viewing a 4k disc? Did you plug your device into the RIGHT HDMI input? 3 out of your 6 inputs do not support HDCP 2.2. Want Dolby Vision? Yours may only pass through HDR10.

Have your HDMI cables upgraded to support the high speed bandwidth?

Oh you have your PSVR installed? Sorry can't pass HDR through the PS4/Pro unless you have the newest version. So.... Unplug that PSVR, buy the newest version of PSVR, or buy a switch.

Have an Xbox One S/X and want to see what Dolby Vision looks like? Sorry. Isn't happening. Not Supported.

It's a not mess right now.

Utnayan fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Nov 8, 2017

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spudsbuckley
Aug 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

(and can't post for 5 years!)

I legit didn't know that 4K Bluray is a thing and i think the last (only) Bluray disc i bought was Planet Earth.

It joins my extensive Bluray collection of the free copies of LA Confidential and UFC Best 100 Fights that i got for pre-ordering stuff at Gamestop years ago.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

spudsbuckley posted:

I legit didn't know that 4K Bluray is a thing and i think the last (only) Bluray disc i bought was Planet Earth.

It joins my extensive Bluray collection of the free copies of LA Confidential and UFC Best 100 Fights that i got for pre-ordering stuff at Gamestop years ago.

It's everywhere now. Well, for sale anyway to purchase said movies. I watched Spider-Man Homecoming on 4k Blu-Ray HDR. It was VERY good, but what I really wanted to do was pass Dolby Vision because it's also a Dolby vision HDR title. Couldn't do it because my 4k player is an Xbox One S, and that only supports HDR10. I watch Stranger Things Season 2 through my LG OLED and Arc back to the receiver, using the netflix app on the set because it supports Dolby Vision. My God... It was so drat epic I cannot even explain how awesome it looked.

Tons of new content will be coming out supporting DV. I highly recommend trying some titles. Thing is, MS doesn't support it, and LG and one other is the only player so far that supports it, and you will want to have a receiver that supports it as well (Most now are at least coming out with supporting all three standards) And right around the corner... HDR10+.

With that said, Dolby is going to start dominating the HDR/Audio market again in the theaters. https://www.dolby.com/us/en/dolby-cinema/locations.html And it will be easy transfers to the 4k discs from native material shot during filming.

I cannot wait to see the new Star Wars in a Dolby Cinema.



Utnayan fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 8, 2017

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I still feel think anamorphic DVDs played via HDMI look fine. Don't tell anyone.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Utnayan posted:

So this. There is hardly anywhere to rent 4k blu-rays. I go with 4k Blu-Ray for HDR/4K and lossless audio. I have a feeling once the rental market catches up, more and more people will be seeing the differences. It doesn't help however that it is confusing as hell for the general consumer.

Have a 4k? Awesome. Which HDR standard does it support?

Have a receiver you want to run that through? Are your HDMI Ports HDCP 2.2 compliant to pass 4k/HDR through the receiver when viewing a 4k disc? Did you plug your device into the RIGHT HDMI input? 3 out of your 6 inputs do not support HDCP 2.2. Want Dolby Vision? Yours may only pass through HDR10.

Have your HDMI cables upgraded to support the high speed bandwidth?

Oh you have your PSVR installed? Sorry can't pass HDR through the PS4/Pro unless you have the newest version. So.... Unplug that PSVR, buy the newest version of PSVR, or buy a switch.

Have an Xbox One S/X and want to see what Dolby Vision looks like? Sorry. Isn't happening. Not Supported.

It's a not mess right now.

If you think that's a mess you have to track which studios generally use good quality encodes for even their 4KHDR releases, and even per film wait for other people to report back on disc quality. Physical media is trying really hard to kill itself off.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Sextro posted:

If you think that's a mess you have to track which studios generally use good quality encodes for even their 4KHDR releases, and even per film wait for other people to report back on disc quality. Physical media is trying really hard to kill itself off.

Yeah agreed. I edited my post to see how that could be smoothed out.

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/dolby-cinema/locations.html

The more and more films coming out that are shot in this format for these theaters, the easier the transfers will be to Blu-Ray. And the standard will be forced as it will be easier to transfer this to media in it's native format than implementing others.

Here are the list of the films.

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/cinema/theatrical-releases.html

HyperPuma
Jun 24, 2007

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but trump is president

TheScott2K posted:

I still feel think anamorphic DVDs played via HDMI look fine. Don't tell anyone.

a true xboner

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Side by side HDR10 vs Dolby Vision was just meh to me. HDR10+ will be out soon and will probably make DV disappear as it’s the same thing without a licensing fee. All 16+ Samsung UHD TVs are HDR10+ compatible now thanks to a firmware update.

4k blu ray rules, but Apple has done a really fine job with their 4k encodes. It’s too bad streaming audio is garbage in comparison.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I use the built in speakers on my TV

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Auron posted:

Side by side HDR10 vs Dolby Vision was just meh to me. HDR10+ will be out soon and will probably make DV disappear as it’s the same thing without a licensing fee. All 16+ Samsung UHD TVs are HDR10+ compatible now thanks to a firmware update.

4k blu ray rules, but Apple has done a really fine job with their 4k encodes. It’s too bad streaming audio is garbage in comparison.

DV is also what the latest wave of theaters were built/upgraded to support and doesn't require a newer HDMI version that almost nothing supports yet. I think it'll be messier than you're suggesting.

lostleaf
Jul 12, 2009

Auron posted:

Wait what? My S turns on my receiver and TV when I turn it on. Or is that through IR blast or some poo poo?

That's correct, it's just using the built-in ir blaster. The Xbox can't switch sources for you. A small nitpick though. This thing is practically silent. But I guess I don't have any games that stress it yet.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Did the bonx end up supporting HDMI-CEC?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

TheScott2K posted:

I still feel think anamorphic DVDs played via HDMI look fine. Don't tell anyone.

They made animorph movies?

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012
im going to buy the xbonex

is it worth pre-downloading the enhanced updates as i assume they are loving massive?

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Utnayan posted:

Have a 4k? Awesome. Which HDR standard does it support?

My Vizio M50-E1 supports HDR10 and Dolby Vision but since it was only $600 plus tax I'm now thinking it's "support" for HDR10 and Dolby Vision is probably half-assed in some manner.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Sextro posted:

DV is also what the latest wave of theaters were built/upgraded to support and doesn't require a newer HDMI version that almost nothing supports yet. I think it'll be messier than you're suggesting.

HDR10+ only requires a firmware update to "upgrade" the HDMI port.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

SquirrelGrip posted:

im going to buy the xbonex

is it worth pre-downloading the enhanced updates as i assume they are loving massive?

Yeah you might as well start downloading them. Make sure you're downloading straight to an external of course so you can just plop em on over rather than plugging in both xboxes at once on the same network and copying the stuff over your network.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




owls or something posted:

Maybe I'll upgrade to the X and come back to the couch.

We've had the original xbone for around 3 years and I just haven't used it much at all past the first few weeks. Wife still likes it somehow. Every time I tried it I was so dissapointed with just how poorly the games ran & how slow everything loaded. It wasn't the bright HD console gaming future we were loving promised. It pushed me to double back down on PC gaming, but I really miss the simple times of consoles. Sitting at a desk, loving with monthly garbage driver updates, configuring graphics settings, or getting mad at hackers in multiplayer games just kind of blows.

All I want is to play really pretty games from my couch, on my big rear end TV, in actual real full HD and smooth higher frame rates.

Has that dream finally arrived? I am afraid to open my heart back up and try to love again. $500 to "upgrade" might just be worth it to me.

All the 3rd party games are still 30 fps

CDHiggs
Dec 16, 2016

That night in Point Pleasant. Those red eyes Richard Gere would never forget.
360 games look too good to be true on the XOX. Gears of War 1-Judgment, Red Dead Redemption, Shadows of the Damned...I mean, GODDAMN.

CDHiggs fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 9, 2017

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


I bought Siege again because it is my fav fps and goddamn does it look like poo poo on Xbox, but at least it runs at 60fps.

The thing that blew me away though was the surround sound, way better than ps4 and PC. I guess that Atmos poo poo really worked.

Edit: typo

UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Nov 9, 2017

HyperPuma
Jun 24, 2007

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but trump is president
i already played those games 10 years ago

HyperPuma
Jun 24, 2007

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but trump is president
e; misread

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



I bought 54 bags of Doritos

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

ethanol posted:

I bought 54 bags of Doritos

Assuming those are the terrible roulette bags and you can survive the shame of a store full of slackjawed yokels staring at you as you pay for a cart full of doritos, that should be enough to get an XboneX.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
Just a thing I noticed but the 1080p upscaling to 4k the X does for Netflix is so much better than what my TV would try to do with a 1080p signal on its own.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Tv upscalers are very garbage

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Maneki Neko posted:

Assuming those are the terrible roulette bags and you can survive the shame of a store full of slackjawed yokels staring at you as you pay for a cart full of doritos, that should be enough to get an XboneX.

It came to 37600 points and I’m bidding tonight

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



If it works it’s a xbone x with a game all in for $164

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




The cost is the cheese powder you inhale

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..

ethanol posted:

If it works it’s a xbone x with a game all in for $164

What are you going to do with all those 'ritos?

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Le Saboteur posted:

What are you going to do with all those 'ritos?

Plant them and grow dorito trees

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




He lives in vermont hes just gonna leave em in the woods

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Battlefront 2 (EA access trial) looks and runs fantastically on X. I hated that game in the PC beta but now I'm gonna buy it. No wonder the PC servers empty out so fast.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Can you preorder loot boxes for extra value?

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

CDHiggs posted:

360 games look too good to be true on the XOX. Gears of War 1-Judgment, Red Dead Redemption, Shadows of the Damned...I mean, GODDAMN.

Someone screenshot what skate 3 looks like for me plz

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Real hurthling! posted:

Can you preorder loot boxes for extra value?

Another cutting edge joke. You're a real asset to these forums.

Top Gun
Oct 24, 2017
JESUS CHRIST it takes like 2-3 hours to "install" a game (even if you have the loving disc) and then another 2-3 hours to install the 60 GB patch for X enhancements. How is this acceptable?

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Another cutting edge joke. You're a real asset to these forums.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Top Gun posted:

How is this acceptable?

Because giving Microsoft half a grand for unacceptability is what people like you do.

Seriously though, I don't know what you expected differently, these download sizes and install times have been a persistent thing that's only gotten worse and was specifically not being improved in any meaningful way with the Xbox One X.

If it helps almost all (there are a few exceptions of various capacities, and this doesn't apply to playing online) PS4 disc games are playable within less than a minute of inserting the disc for the first time, PS4 Pro included.

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Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
I have faster download speeds on my Xbox One X than I do on my PS4. It generally uses my full bandwidth to download around 3 MB/s. Shame all these games are hovering around 50-60 gigs a pop now but thats the breaks to get the high-res assets.

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