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The MSJ posted:This... this is a real magazine cover. i'm surprisingly ok with this
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Davros1 posted:And isn't this a new development too? Hmm it may not have been there right from the start in the silver age but I remember it being a thing when I started reading in the 90s. They used to do a lot of "Year One" style stories, so I want to say it was maybe introduced in something like that. By contrast, Flash Rebirth was only around 5 years old when they worked that storyline into the TV show and cemented it as his official origin.
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Nov 10, 2017 01:51
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Another TV news: Ellen Page is the first actor announced for the Netflix adaptation of The Umbrella Academy. She is playing Vanya, the one with no powers.
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Nov 10, 2017 02:22
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Burkion posted:It's not though, it's a recent thing. It's like saying the Martian Manhunter being the last Martian is important to his character. It's his origin. Before he basically had no origin. "He was s police scientist who got struck by lightning and now he's a superhero" is not an origin, there's no motivation, no real pathos to the character, it's amazing it wasn't built on for decades. You can even change the origin and get rid of the dead mom if you want, but just "dude struck by lightning, is a hero now" is no origin. Flashpoint is basically his first origin that had any thought put into it.
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Nov 10, 2017 02:46
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Nahhhh. People become soldiers and police officers and teachers without experiencing trauma. They could have certainly fleshed out his childhood and made his dad a police officer or gone more into why he loved science and exploration, but not everyone needs to experience loss to become a hero. I think it would be great to have a character who is driven by his passions and not by something negative. Pathos can (and did) come after that from learning to be a hero and understanding how his powers have changed who he is.
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Nov 10, 2017 03:04
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The MSJ posted:She is playing Vanya, the one with no powers. Best protect ya neck. The real question though: Who is playing Hazle and Cha-Cha?
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Nov 10, 2017 03:28
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I'm reading Ms. Marvel and her origin in terms of motivation is wanting to help her friends and her city and there's nothing dull or boring about her character or the stories. Kamala's new powers have helped her explore her identity and who she wants to be but her early stories have featured zero funerals or any real loss (for her) of anything other than normalcy.
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Nov 10, 2017 03:34
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Spider-Man: A teen is bitten by a spider, and is responsible
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Nov 10, 2017 04:28
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's his origin. Before he basically had no origin. "He was s police scientist who got struck by lightning and now he's a superhero" is not an origin, there's no motivation, no real pathos to the character, it's amazing it wasn't built on for decades. Yeah I don't agree at all. I don't think his mom had to get murdered. He did not have a tragic backstory. It actually kind of sucks as I feel the Flash did not need a tragic backstory, though it is kind of interesting in the story we see it happen. As we follow Thawne as he goes back in time and starts trying to gently caress with his life, doing stuff like erasing a childhood friend from existence, the mom murder, framing dad, killing his dog. But I feel that should have been something that was undone at the end of the story when Thawne was beaten.
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Nov 10, 2017 04:38
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah I don't agree at all. I don't think his mom had to get murdered. He did not have a tragic backstory. That's why I said it didn't need to be the same backstory. He just need A backstory.
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Nov 10, 2017 05:00
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I mean I for sure agree that you can't get away with the Silver Age style "something happened and now they're a super hero" origin. I just think "a dead parent" is the most cliched version possible at this point and adding it 60 years into a characters existence is a lazy way to add pathos. It would be more interesting if he successfully saved his mom but that had another cost (which I mean it kinda did, it reset his whole history and erased his nephew from time).
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Nov 10, 2017 06:18
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Butterfly Effect it, he erases himself from existence.
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Nov 10, 2017 06:45
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Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle didn't get his powers when his parents died! Well, he got them after Ted Kord died and the scarab got reenergized after a fight where The Spectre killed the Wizard Shazam, but Jaime didn't know that! And that's not even how it happened in the current continuity since Ted Kord never died now and they have sort of a campier Batman Beyond dynamic going on last I was reading the comic.
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Nov 10, 2017 07:08
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The MSJ posted:TV news: Amazon just ordered Seth Rogen's adaptation of The Boys to series. Isn't The Boys supposed to be...kinda dark? Sounds like a weird project for Rogen to take on.
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Nov 10, 2017 08:23
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's his origin. Before he basically had no origin. "He was s police scientist who got struck by lightning and now he's a superhero" is not an origin, there's no motivation, no real pathos to the character, it's amazing it wasn't built on for decades.
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Nov 10, 2017 08:29
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Rough Lobster posted:Isn't The Boys supposed to be...kinda dark? Sounds like a weird project for Rogen to take on. Have you seen The Interview or This is The End? Both are pretty dark comedies
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Nov 10, 2017 08:53
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couldn't get through that edgy tryhard garth ennis trash tbh any adaptation is bound to be a step up from the source material so that's a plus
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Nov 10, 2017 09:57
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TetsuoTW posted:No, it is an origin. It is how he became The Flash, therefore it is an origin. Not everything needs pathos, sometimes poo poo just happens and people then have to deal with it. Why does everything need a loving backstory? Literally every soldier, cop, doctor, nurse, firefighter and EMT in the world has a tragic backstory.
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Lobok posted:I'm reading Ms. Marvel and her origin in terms of motivation is wanting to help her friends and her city and there's nothing dull or boring about her character or the stories. Kamala's new powers have helped her explore her identity and who she wants to be but her early stories have featured zero funerals or any real loss (for her) of anything other than normalcy. that's because her book is being written by the best in the business. it's one of the few comics consistently worth reading
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Nov 10, 2017 12:00
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I prefer this version of Cyborg to the Playstation-rear end one in the trailers for that movie.
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Nov 10, 2017 12:14
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TetsuoTW posted:I prefer this version of Cyborg to the Playstation-rear end one in the trailers for that movie. I like Cyborg and his gang of identical henchmen. Very 60s Batman
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Nov 10, 2017 13:14
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I'm just saying, Hal Jordan as a character has more going on than Barry Allen did until they revamped him.
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Nov 10, 2017 13:24
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I'm just saying, Hal Jordan as a character has more going on than Barry Allen did until they revamped him. That's why other Flashs and Green Lanterns are cooler characters than those two.
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Nov 10, 2017 14:21
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Nov 10, 2017 14:22
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Super dark adaptation of No One Can Stop Mr. Domino.
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I haven't seen the new Flash show, but I like that they changed the origin to a particle accelerator. It's basically the modern version of gamma radiation, but it at least has a relation to speed.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:10
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The MSJ posted:Another TV news: Ellen Page is the first actor announced for the Netflix adaptation of The Umbrella Academy. She is playing Vanya, the one with no powers. Hilarious that a Grant Morrison knockoff is getting an adaptation before basically any Grant Morrison comic.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:15
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The childhood mom killed thing was fine in The Flash tv show... at first, then they revisited it multiple times a year to the point of it being ridiculous and terrible. Right now when his mom is killed there's like one Eobard Thawne in the room and about seven Barry Allens, three of which trying to stop Thawne, three trying to stop themselves from stopping Thawne, and one that took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.
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Serf posted:that's because her book is being written by the best in the business. it's one of the few comics consistently worth reading First thing I've read of hers but I believe it! And the art is fantastic. Didn't even recognize him as the same guy who did Runaways back in the day but this new style of his is so great. Almost every panel has me lingering on it.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Right now when his mom is killed there's like one Eobard Thawne in the room and about seven Barry Allens, three of which trying to stop Thawne, three trying to stop themselves from stopping Thawne, and one that took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. Haven't been able to watch much Season 3 because of PVR issues but yeah, I'm just not a fan of the near-constant time fuckery. At some point to clean up all those Flash's fighting and peeking out from behind doors at his mom's murder he should just absorb them all somehow and get a huge speed boost. Edit: I originally meant to edit this into my previous post, oh well. Instead just imagine that this post and my previous post are somehow both existing at the same time witnessing a crucial point in my backstory.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:25
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Season 3 past the opener there's really not much time travel fuckery. Well, kinda. Actually never mind, now that I think about it, there's lots of it. But Barry Allen himself isn't doing it week to week. kinda
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Nov 10, 2017 16:32
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Al Borland Corp. posted:The childhood mom killed thing was fine in The Flash tv show... at first, then they revisited it multiple times a year to the point of it being ridiculous and terrible. Percival Dunwoody, Idiot Time Traveler. https://boingboing.net/2013/07/10/tom-the-dancing-bug-super-fun-9.html
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McSpanky posted:Literally every soldier, cop, doctor, nurse, firefighter and EMT in the world has a tragic backstory. That's a pretty bold claim.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:41
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Lars von Trier doing Marvel. I like it.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Hilarious that a Grant Morrison knockoff is getting an adaptation before basically any Grant Morrison comic. Happy premieres next month.
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Nov 10, 2017 18:03
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Schwarzwald posted:That's a pretty bold claim. i think you'll find it holds up to rigorous scrutiny
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Nov 10, 2017 18:04
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Schwarzwald posted:That's a pretty bold claim. Being born in america is a tragic backstory
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Nov 10, 2017 18:11
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I realize why Doctor Strange was not great Benedict Cumberbatch just was not the right fit. At all. The dude has two modes- snarky and way smarter than you and boring as poo poo. Having to put on a terrible American accent only made that fact worse. What they needed was an actor like Vincent Price. In a perfect world where Vincent Price was immortal as he deserved to be, they could have just cast Vincent Price himself. He drat well inspired the character and certainly had the range to pull off anything the role could ask for. He'd likely even be charming dealing with a stupid CGI cape.
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Spacebump posted:That's why other Flashs and Green Lanterns are cooler characters than those two.
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