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geek social fallacies
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 20:55 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 13:25 |
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Can someone give me an example of rules that would work out better
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 20:56 |
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Comrade Gorbash posted:These rules are bad, and most of all seem to point to RPG.net trying to just solve this in one step by legislating new rules, and that's just a wrongheaded approach. Which is a legitimate enough model for moderation - except it makes RPGnet almost the exact wrong place to call anyone out for their lovely behavior or for applying pressure to companies/individuals to behave better. When your rule #1 is "Don't make waves" then you become a powerful force for the status quo. Which, again, is fine and legitimate if that's the way they want to run their forum. But you can't do that and then also go on to claim that your site is some sort of progressive oasis which is safe and welcoming to all people of good will. Because it isn't, and by definition cannot be.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 20:57 |
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Plutonis posted:Can someone give me an example of rules that would work out better The current rules require a victim to out themselves in some way, I don't see the problem in it being like basically any other public forum where it's not a bannable offense to say 'yea I have some friends who've told me this is a serious issue' and then yea if someone wants to go 'yea I don't believe that' you can just have that conversation?
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 21:02 |
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Serf posted:geek social fallacies In that case... Halloween Jack posted:No, no. They GSF'd their way into this mess, and they'll GSF their way out. It's frustrating to see them vacillate back and forth between sticking to that old avoid controversy at all costs mode and actually doing something about it. Extremely frustrating. But there's clearly a tension there that can't hold, and I don't think it's a given which way it goes in the end. FMguru posted:One big problem is that RPGnet's core moderation philosophy is that slamming a lid down on drama is the highest priority, so people can get on with taking about elfgaming on all the other corners of the site. They don't care who is right or wrong, they just pull the plug on discussions that get heated or insulting or out of control. Keeping the peace is their first, last, and only responsibility.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 21:04 |
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sexpig by night posted:The current rules require a victim to out themselves in some way, I don't see the problem in it being like basically any other public forum where it's not a bannable offense to say 'yea I have some friends who've told me this is a serious issue' and then yea if someone wants to go 'yea I don't believe that' you can just have that conversation? That generally doesn't work when the popular kids can deflect any accusations? You can have a victim come forward and say this person did x, y, and z things to them, and that's a lot harder to deny unless the accused can provide some sort of valid response. But if someone not the victim instead says "I heard this guy did x, y, and z" then there's all sorts of opportunities for denial. You could accuse that person of having a grudge, or judge them on the basis of affiliation with enemies of their own community, or through association with a different bad thing, or so on. One of the first things Green Ronin's contractors did when discussion began about Suleiman's bad behavior was to accuse people like VLDarling of covering for John Morke because they were/are friends IRL. That's just how discourse basically works online, and you can brush almost anyone off with ad hominems where you tell people with a problem that you did this, or you posted there, or you liked that or them. Nuance doesn't really matter, when people can look at the accusations and counter-accusations and whoever looks the most superficially correct is the one that most people who aren't involved can agree with and feel good about themselves. The important thing, I think, is to get in on that kind of behavior much as possible, because it's really effective and already the norm in most cases.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 22:41 |
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Halloween Jack posted:No, no. They GSF'd their way into this mess, and they'll GSF their way out. Serf posted:geek social fallacies Suddenly the culture of Goonswarm Federation (GSF) makes a lot more sense.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 22:47 |
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C. A. Suleiman posted a non-apology.quote:Hello, everyone.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:03 |
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Dragging his dying father out and using him as a shield was a nice touch.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:08 |
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quote:and that a man who is six-foot-two, with a goatee and eyes possessed of an intensity that others have called “alarming,” I've read that fanfic.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:10 |
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Kai Tave posted:I've read that fanfic. I worked pretty hard on it thanks.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:11 |
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Some might say a man who stands a powerful 6'2'' with rippling abs and eyes as blue as the ocean, eyes that seem as though they can gaze straight into one's soul and divine their innermost desires, eyes that some might describe as "alarming" but others might call "captivating," some might say a man with a head of thick, full, sandy hair, silken to the touch, and an immaculately trimmed goatee, some might say a man with a chocolatey baritone voice that's been described by more than one person as "arousing," some might say
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:20 |
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FMguru posted:Dragging his dying father out and using him as a shield was a nice touch. And his mother/sisters whom he will most assuredly be providing for now and deary me you sure don't want to impact his ability to get work in any way because of all these innocent people you'll be hurting.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:23 |
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Kai Tave posted:Some might say a man who stands a powerful 6'2'' with rippling abs and eyes as blue as the ocean, eyes that seem as though they can gaze straight into one's soul and divine their innermost desires, eyes that some might describe as "alarming" but others might call "captivating," some might say a man with a head of thick, full, sandy hair, silken to the touch, and an immaculately trimmed goatee, some might say a man with a chocolatey baritone voice that's been described by more than one person as "arousing," some might say original character do not
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:24 |
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C.A. Suleiman should be fired out of a cannon into the sun just for how completely loving trash-awful the writing in that non-apology is, that is seriously just some complete dogshit. I've written last-minute book reports that were better than that meandering garbage.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:29 |
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my favorite part is the little 'well, the man of the house is dying and I have to be there for the women in my life...my female family...yep three strong women, all great...better than me even...great women I love'. Like, he pulled a straight up Women Respecter to try to deflect, it's amazingly poo poo and of course his friends are falling over themselves to say 'my god they HAVE to forgive you now or they're huge bitches!' This piece of poo poo will learn nothing and go right back to abusing people.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:40 |
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quote:I have two amazing sisters, both of whom I adore and who love me for who I am, neither of whom tolerates my bullshit. Just like my friends don’t tolerate it, either, and yet somehow love me anyway. Despite my joking self-awareness about my (extremely handsome) poo poo, I accidentally overcame some people's boundaries with my unnerving, overwhelming charisma. Sorry!
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:40 |
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I'd never seen someone try to work their dating site profile into a denial of any real wrongdoing for sexual harassment before but I guess that's 2017 for you.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:43 |
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ladies. I'm so sorry that while being a sexy, intense, passionate, man who many have described as a 'sex golem' you may have felt uncomfortable with me. Have I mentioned I love my mom?
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:47 |
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He will get sex therapy for a couple of weeks and everything will be fine again
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:48 |
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sexpig by night posted:ladies. I'm so sorry that while being a sexy, intense, passionate, man who many have described as a 'sex golem' you may have felt uncomfortable with me. Have I mentioned I love my mom? What's the challenge rating on a Sex Golem, and what happens if you cast Incarnate Construct on it?
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 23:56 |
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Kurieg posted:What's the challenge rating on a Sex Golem CR 69
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:01 |
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Kurieg posted:What's the challenge rating on a Sex Golem, and what happens if you cast Incarnate Construct on it? the CR for a sex golem is either incredibly manageable and fun for everyone involved or far too out of bounds to be used in your campaign.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:08 |
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sexpig by night posted:the CR for a sex golem is either incredibly manageable and fun for everyone involved or far too out of bounds to be used in your campaign. And it's totally not the golem's fault if you're not able to use it in your campaign but he's sorry regardless, as he's respectful of all campaigns.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:20 |
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Kurieg posted:What's the challenge rating on a Sex Golem, and what happens if you cast Incarnate Construct on it? Mods requesting name change to Sex Golem plz thnx
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:20 |
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Pleasure Golems are CR1 in the Book of Erotic Fantasy Your guess is as good as mine as to how Incarnate Construct works on them, as I don't think the spell was created with sentient constructs in mind
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:24 |
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I'm kissing my fingertips like a cartoon chef at the idea of "you can relate actions that a person took" being called out as a limited, special exception to "you cannot attack people".
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:32 |
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I'm imagining incarnate pleasure golems reacting somewhat like this: https://www.sexylosers.com/characters/dutch-wife-fairy/
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:33 |
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Onagholem
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:49 |
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Mors Rattus posted:C. A. Suleiman posted a non-apology. That's so weird. One time he walked into a panel I was participating in. I got up and walked out. I could have sworn he was shorter than me.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 00:59 |
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To be fair; if there's one thing that RPG folk are unfamiliar with, it's writing functional rules.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 01:00 |
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MachineIV posted:That's so weird. One time he walked into a panel I was participating in. I got up and walked out. Then again, how could I ever hope to remember the real details of the situation?
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 01:11 |
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I went to look up who this CA Suleiman person was and someone flagged his wikipedia entry for deletion. Reason: Non-notable designer
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 01:58 |
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Rhandhali posted:I went to look up who this CA Suleiman person was and someone flagged his wikipedia entry for deletion. Reason: Non-notable designer What? But he's 6'2" and very charismatic! Unlike all those other developers. That's notable!
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 02:01 |
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I have never seen someone fellate themselves so hard in anything, much less an apology letter. Jesus christ.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 03:05 |
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Leraika posted:I have never seen someone fellate themselves so hard in anything, much less an apology letter. between this and CK's 'apology' where he fuckin plugs things it's been a fantastic day for garbage apologies.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 05:36 |
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sexpig by night posted:between this and CK's 'apology' where he fuckin plugs things it's been a fantastic day for garbage apologies.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 05:44 |
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Nihilarian posted:I forsee more garbage apologies tomorrow, too Gorge Takei's gonna say something like 'yea he was dressed like a slut' and just completely destroy any ability I have to have celeb heroes.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 05:46 |
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sexpig by night posted:Gorge Takei's gonna say something like 'yea he was dressed like a slut' and just completely destroy any ability I have to have celeb heroes. What? *google* Oh no. OH NO.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 05:55 |
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Bedlamdan posted:What? *google* Yeah, gently caress it, I'm done.
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# ? Nov 11, 2017 05:58 |