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Jeb! Repetition posted:Cardassians are such eternal assholes
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Nov 11, 2017 03:44
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Whew that sweet ending made it a little less bitter. That may be the ultimate quintessential Trek episode. Did Star Control do a seed of directed evolution thing too? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
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Nov 11, 2017 03:46
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Whew that sweet ending made it a little less bitter. That may be the ultimate quintessential Trek episode. I’m not sure the Arilou literally created humans, but they definitely directed their evolution.
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Nov 11, 2017 03:59
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"This unique archaeological artifact is over 12000 years old, and priceless in nature" "Now let me touch it with my bare hands like a loving animal"
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Nov 11, 2017 04:10
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mossyfisk posted:"This unique archaeological artifact is over 12000 years old, and priceless in nature" its the federation future, man, they have the kind of technomagic to make contaminating historical objects a thing of the past
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Nov 11, 2017 04:34
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Picard is bald BY CHOICE. They solved male pattern baldness ages ago so im sure they also have some kind of way to make hands constantly secreting purell.
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Nov 11, 2017 04:36
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Tears of the Prophets Oh DS9, stop with the technobabble just call it electronic warfare or jamming or a computer virus or something. The Federation's electronic warfare capabilities must be goddamn terrifying if Star Trek writers were ever interested in the subject. Dukat's still a fuckup. As for Jadzia, eh. I felt she was the weakest member of the main cast throughout the show, and the foreshadowing this episode was really heavy in a not good way. Sisko's eulogy at the end was great, but I put that down more to Sisko's strength as a character and Brooks' skill as an actor than anything to do directly with Jadzia. Decent episode all around, but I think it suffered from a lack of focus. I think it should have focused more on either the battle (first big offensive action since retaking the station!) or Dukat's stuff with the Pah-Wraiths and Prophets and wormhole. I have almost no memory of the next and final season, so fingers crossed.
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Nov 11, 2017 05:32
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Cythereal posted:I have almost no memory of the next and final season, so fingers crossed. There's good, there's bad, then there's Ezri.  Still, it has my favorite O'Brien Must Suffer episode; Treachery, Faith, and the Great River.
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Nov 11, 2017 07:45
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Jeb! Repetition posted:"Disable their defensive systems" lol you can tell the writers were just super lazy there "oh god now we gotta deal with this fuckin' alien ship" "uhhhh... naw, it just exploded! it's all good!"
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Nov 11, 2017 07:52
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Man I think I'm the only person who liked Jadzia
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Nov 11, 2017 07:53
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I still want to see Avery Brooks' Joran that was too creepy to air.
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Nov 11, 2017 09:50
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Spoeank posted:Man I think I'm the only person who liked Jadzia I liked her. They didn't so much with her character, but I dug the "I've been there and done that like, eight times, so whatever" moments she'd have.
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Nov 11, 2017 09:51
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I like Jadzia but I can't really separate the character from the deep and profound effects Terry Farrell had on my teenage boy mind.
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Nov 11, 2017 10:05
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Spoeank posted:Man I think I'm the only person who liked Jadzia I think she had good moments, but that the writers didn't know how to use her beyond Trill stuff and, later, making her an accessory to Worf's character. Grand Fromage posted:I like Jadzia but I can't really separate the character from the deep and profound effects Terry Farrell had on my teenage boy mind. Jadzia didn't do it for me, personally. Now I do remember Ezri for similar reasons.
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Nov 11, 2017 13:55
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Al Borland Corp. posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ4qkDqjA3Q RLM with mostly the same edits, but I admire the added sound effects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqb9q3c1Pxo&t=305s
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Nov 11, 2017 16:31
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Image in the Sand Start of season seven and Bashir is still carrying a torch for Jadzia. Bashir, dude, you're smart, athletic, good looking, and a good man. Bit of a dork but who isn't on this show. You should not be acting like a guy from /r/Incels. Did not remember that Damar's drinking isn't just a meme, Weyoun legit comments on him being an alcoholic. My issue with this episode boils down to feeling the previous episode didn't have the emotional punch it needed. I remarked then that I felt the story was unfocused and needed to focus on one plot or the other, and this episode which is about dealing with the emotional fallout from that episode accordingly feels unearned. On the other hand, Ezri. 
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Nov 11, 2017 16:40
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Cythereal posted:
This forever. The worst thing Terry Farrell did was make Ezri a one season character. poo poo or get off the pot!
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Nov 11, 2017 16:50
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The Bloop posted:This forever. Mirror Jadzia was good. Mirror Ezri was also good, so 
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Nov 11, 2017 17:10
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Oh no  http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/george-takei-denies-sexual-assault-claims.html
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Nov 11, 2017 17:26
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Oh no Oh my
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Nov 11, 2017 17:32
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Grand Fromage posted:I like Jadzia but I can't really separate the character from the deep and profound effects Terry Farrell had on my teenage boy mind. not an empty quote
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Nov 11, 2017 17:56
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FuturePastNow posted:not an empty quote This but Ezri for me. Shadows and Symbols And the Everybody Loves Jadzia (Even Quark) show comes to an end. The only plot in this two-parter that's interesting is the stuff with Sisko and Ezri, though I'm not a fan of removing the ambiguity from Far Beyond the Stars about what was happening. My interpretation of that episode had been that it was a positive vision meant to rekindle Sisko's hope and will to fight. I really think more time should have been spent with Sisko's revelation at the end and what it meant for the Sisko family. That's a hosed up thing the Prophets did, and only Sisko seems mildly perturbed about it. While I have almost no memories of this season and Ezri's cute as a button, I can already tell I'm probably not going to be entirely thrilled with Ezri. Only one season left to go, a lot of crap about Ezri and Jadzia (and Worf and probably Bashir knowing these writers) to untangle, and of course the whole Dominion War and Pah-Wraths vs Prophets plots to wrap up. I get the feeling there's going to be a lot of Ezri episodes this season, Ezri's character development is going to be incredibly rushed and muddled, or both.
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Nov 11, 2017 21:01
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Grand Fromage posted:I like Jadzia but I can't really separate the character from the deep and profound effects Terry Farrell had on my teenage boy mind. Not an empty quote
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Nov 11, 2017 21:11
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Cythereal posted:I get the feeling there's going to be a lot of Ezri episodes this season, Ezri's character development is going to be incredibly rushed and muddled, or both. It is most definitely rushed. It's not really bad for what it is, though. More for what could have been. It's like "why didn't they do this with Dax before?"
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Nov 11, 2017 21:32
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Grand Fromage posted:I like Jadzia but I can't really separate the character from the deep and profound effects Terry Farrell had on my teenage boy mind. This got me googling, and both Terry Farrell and Nicole De Boer are still mind bogglingly attractive two decades on. Fine wine, both of them.
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Nov 11, 2017 21:44
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I think Nana Visitor seems to have aged the best out of all of them.
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Nov 11, 2017 21:50
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My biggest question at this point is, why is Ezri being assigned to DS9 at all? Isn't this very strictly against how Trill do things and a transparently bad idea to Starfleet? I got the immediate impression that the best thing for Ezri would be to keep her as far away from Deep Space Nine as possible. She was an assistant counselor, surely there are centers for traumatized veterans of the war in urgent need of therapists.
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Nov 11, 2017 22:02
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Cythereal posted:My biggest question at this point is, why is Ezri being assigned to DS9 at all? Isn't this very strictly against how Trill do things and a transparently bad idea to Starfleet? I got the immediate impression that the best thing for Ezri would be to keep her as far away from Deep Space Nine as possible. She was an assistant counselor, surely there are centers for traumatized veterans of the war in urgent need of therapists. Hilarious mismanagement of mental health resources is true to life.
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Nov 11, 2017 22:52
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MisterBibs posted:I liked her. They didn't so much with her character, but I dug the "I've been there and done that like, eight times, so whatever" moments she'd have. I thought the constant one-sided Bashir romance teases were lame and held Dax back during the pre-Worf period. Then during the pre-Worf period she was held back by being joined at the hip to Worf, who was...not very interesting as a romantic lead, let's say. Bashir (as a distinct entity from the very attractive and cool alexander siddig) is a dweeb who should not get to date anybody, I feel. Would have been more interesting if they had cut the Dax/Bashir ship tease and spent that time either giving Dax more independent swashbuckling adventures, or teasing Dax/Sisko instead. Though the implications of the latter, vis-a-vis Sisko's prior relationship with Curzon, might have been unacceptable by 90s TV standards. tl;dr dax never really spread her wings as a character because she spent most of the show slotted in as a love interest for dorks.
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Afterimage Hoo boy, there's a lot to unpack here. Garak: This is why I feel Garak is the best Cardassian on Deep Space Nine as a representation of his people. Garak is above all else a loyal man who serves Cardassia, even when that necessitates working against Cardassia's current leadership and activities. Sisko: I don't say this too often, but you can be an rear end in a top hat at times. What if Ezri really isn't cut out for this? What if she really would have been happier without ever being Joined? We never hear about Trill who reject being Joined, no one ever seems to take the stance "If I don't do this that symbiont dies, but if the symbiont Joins me I will die." Give the woman a loving break! Worf: Y'see, this kind of poo poo is why I think Ezri should have been kept as far away from Deep Space Nine as possible. Bashir: Stop being such a loving goon. I like Ezri, but man do I think this episode is a disservice to the character as established. This place is not healthy, or wise for her. Find Ezri a job as a therapist in a PTSD center or a Starfleet VA. Or counseling cadets at Starfleet Academy - God knows they probably need it. And for the love of God, wait for Jadzia's body to be cold before seeing which guy (because of loving course it will be a guy, all of whom on this station except O'Brien, Odo, and maybe Sisko were apparently in love with Jadzia) Ezri is going to be paired off with. This station absolutely needs a counselor, but Ezri is manifestly the wrong person for the job - she is in urgent need of a counselor. Commission Vic or Quark in a blue uniform instead.
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Nov 12, 2017 00:01
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PupsOfWar posted:Would have been more interesting if they had cut the Dax/Bashir ship tease and spent that time either giving Dax more independent swashbuckling adventures, or teasing Dax/Sisko instead. Though the implications of the latter, vis-a-vis Sisko's prior relationship with Curzon, might have been unacceptable by 90s TV standards. Eh, this is one thing I think they did right. I'm kind of glad they just let a man and woman have a close friendship without any romantic implications.
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Nov 12, 2017 00:11
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Watching Frame of Mind. What the gently caress
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Nov 12, 2017 00:18
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Oh lol
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Nov 12, 2017 00:19
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Was that blueshirt Riker passed just a straight up Cardassian?
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Nov 12, 2017 00:22
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Riker's dumb joke falling completely flat on Worf
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Nov 12, 2017 00:25
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And Worf just nicked him with a dagger. Everything about that exchange was vaguely off like a Lynch film.
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Nov 12, 2017 00:26
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Riker's being weird
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Nov 12, 2017 00:29
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"It's as if I was in Frame of Mind." "Frame of Mind?" "Beverly's Play." 
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