Toops posted:

Thanks for keeping the bar so fuckin' high with this gem of a post.

trucutru posted:

Space stations start at $50,000 you cheap-rear end.

Mirificus posted:

Variable 5 posted:

What the flying gently caress is wrong with him

cool new Polack jokes posted:

The real question is, what's to stop them from glitching through their prison bars and t-posing to another country without extradition to the US?

Tokamak posted:

It's great value when you consider they're priced for orgs, not individuals.

TheLastRoboKy posted:

Hopefully someone still has the screenshot cause this was a fair while ago, back around those heady days before even the persistent universe kicked in. Anyway a guy who wanted to do podcasts and stuff about Star Citizen and other space games cracked a joke in a previous incarnation of this thread (I think about people killing themselves over Star Citizen), and not too long afterwards Sandi emailed him a screencap of his post, and then as an aside demanded to know if he had in fact been complaining that CIG wouldn't give him the time of day for interviews for his show. It was such a ham-handed attempt at trying to scare him it kind of beggared belief but really was the first major highlight for us that people were watching this thread, feeding this information back to at the very least Sandi, and that they thought that they could try to silence dissent with the implied threat of freezing people out. Freezing people out of what I'm not sure since nothing's loving come out.

But if the user's post really did upset CIG then Ben's entire site should have gotten him fired.

Latin Pheonix posted:

Holy mother of god. I thought it was just a minor email in passing to a third party, nothing nearly as direct as that .

I wonder if she still reads/is informed about this thread?

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Hi Sandi!

VictorianQueerLit posted:

Another weird thing was that at one of the conventions they gave Sandi a fake award that was like a golden computer or something that was for "putting up with poo poo on the internet."

As far as I know she never had any online presence in the Star Citizen community at all so what poo poo was she putting up with exactly?

Consider
- Your example of her personally responding to posts from this thread
- People being banned on RSI for posting here
- After we criticized giving Ben donuts she. awkwardly came out and placed a huge bag of donuts in the center of the frame while looking at the camera
- After we made fun of her looking high as gently caress with huge glasses and stuffing her face during shows later she just weirdly stared into the camera and started eating while smirking

I think she's probably narcissistic enough to have been reading this thread personally. Which is funny because it means that we have had more direct influence on Star Citizen than any of the whales have had while paying 0$.

Zzr posted:

Beer, where did you touched them to attract this long lasting hate ?

BluesShaman posted:

I guess they moved customer support people away from bugsmashing, and back to customer support!

Viscous Soda posted:

Nah, that'd only be the platinum stations, Gold would be $10k, Civilian $5k, and finally $1k "budget" stations.

That way not only are you selling to multiple demographics/incomes, but you're also fostering elitism for those who can buy in at higher stations. After all, you don't want to be one of those plebs who only buy in at "civilian", do you?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

She got the award before the convention. The con was where they did the whole "I stand with Sandi" thing. I believe the award was because of the CS emails, because apparently making incredibly unprofessional statements to a customer deserves a plaque.


Right in the cognitive dissonance.

Bofast posted:

The trick is to release $5,000 space stations for players and $50,000 starbases for orgs. That way the space stations won't look so expensive by comparison.

Zzr posted:

Catching up I'm at the sandi's film part and it made me laugh very hard.

Solarin posted:

I read every loving email... I OWN your email chain

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I don't know what this means but I hope a safe word is involved.

Natron posted:

When I was watching the dreadful panel on base building or whatever at citizen con, I honestly thought they were gearing up to sell plots of land on planets.

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they did, but they'd have to make a planet first, I guess. Or not, citizens will buy it regardless, let's face it.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

She got the award before the convention. The con was where they did the whole "I stand with Sandi" thing. I believe the award was because of the CS emails, because apparently making incredibly unprofessional statements to a customer deserves a plaque.

Slow_Moe posted:

Fostering elitism is the backbone of CIG's funding. The elitist are willing to pay huge sums to be elite in game, and as such, CIG caters exclusively to them. Which, when the game launches (stop laughing) will heavily dis incentivize regular players from joining up. And then all the whales, with their paid for advantages, will square off against each-other. But since there is no regular players for them to lord over, they will feel grief instead of superiority.

It's gonna be yuge.

30.5 Days posted:

The idea was that you paid in-game currency for raffle tickets and each month they'd raffle off some % of the outstanding land deeds, like 25%. Deeds had a limited time (like 30 days or something) to place before they vanished and once placed you had to pay in-game currency as rent. So getting and maintaining land would be the main gold sink. The idea is player churn would result in rent going unpaid, deeds re-entering the raffle, and eventually the system would hit some kind of equilibrium. This all seems like it should work imo. The problem is a few things:

- A massive amount of land was claimed with rent-free deeds which means that land, at the moment, will never re-enter the raffle. They claimed that at some point they'd have some system for freeing it if (when) those players stopped coming around, but last i heard nothing had even been suggested let alone implemented.
- Since rent-free deeds got head start on land grab, all the best, most contested land is the land that has rent-free deeds on it.
- There are 4 regions and one of them has the vast majority (probably at this point, all of) the player economy. Moving between two regions is intentionally a pain in the rear end to try and add a labor cost to porting things between regions, to make that part of the player economy. But there's no good reason to ever leave largest, central region, all commodities can be obtained there with zero difficulty, so the actual impact is there's effectively only one region and it's full. But the "25% of deeds" being auctioned off each month includes empty space in other regions, where nobody wants to be. So player-owned-town slots in the main region are, in practice, worth more than place-anywhere slots in other regions, but not only are they not priced that way, but there's no way of knowing if there are slots available in the main region, how many there are, or where they are.
- The only thing you can really do with a deed is have a cool looking house. There was some kind of NPC system where you can place NPCs on your land, but the number you can place is extremely low and they never really fleshed out things the NPCs could do for you, so in practice, all they can do is sell stuff out front of your house. This is functionally an auction house that your buyers need to manually find, including the auction house fees (except also if you participated in the kickstarter, you got a 0-fee NPC which is worth an assload of money, they were selling for hundreds of thousands of gold when I played). To make this relevant at all, they limited the number of things you can sell at once at any auction house, so at least you can sell more stuff simultaneously. Just to be absolutely clear about this, their main gold sink gave absolutely no material benefit to the player.
- However, because auction houses aren't shared, players all go to a single auction house in a single city in the central region (owl's head) because of network effects. The result of this is that you can't realistically sell anything if you don't have land in owl's head, because nobody will go to whatever town you live in. Since owl's head land is high-demand, it was all snapped up on day 1 of the land rush so every single plot is filled with 0-rent deeds that will never go on raffle. They are all selling basic equipment at insane markups in hopes of tricking people into paying three times as much as they would on the AH that's 3 feet away because there's literally nothing else worth doing, economy-wise, in this dead game.
- Despite this insane autists still were grinding up insane amounts of cash for raffle tickets to try and turn west anglia or whatever loving place into the "new owl's head", it was kind of pathetic.
- Also people sharking deeds for a profit
- Even if you get a single POT deed at the low low price of 5k gold because you won the raffle (which, in their defense, wasn't unrealistic at all) you still have the "HOA problem" that's been mentioned in this thread where your neighbors are 3 lighthouses and a steampunk contraption created to commemorate the fact that Star Citizen is never coming out.

Mirificus posted:

BluesShaman posted:

A veritable avalanche of refunds in the last 48 hrs in the refund subreddit.





et al.

I guess they moved customer support people away from bugsmashing, and back to customer support!

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I don't know what this means but I hope a safe word is involved.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Remember that time you talked to customer service and then the replies got weird and it turns out that Sandi was reading them and decided to take you on 1v1 like a good ole deathmatch in Doom?