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OneDeadman posted:Do you BLMs not realize manaward exists and is extremely good for tanking single aoes I'm glad they thought Manawall was too good in 2.x because it let you ignore knockbacks and physical damage so they proceeded to nerf that into the ground before taking Surecast (literally the worst spell in the game) away from Black Mages and making it a cross class spell and then basically giving it the knockback reduction from Manawall but on an ultra low cooldown. Really good. Edit: The actual issue with Black Mage as well is that it's a class that offers literal negative utility because of how loving selfish the class is, classes like Bard, Machinist, Ninja, Summoner, Dragoon all boost the party's damage, Monk at has the good grace to not get in anyone's way. Whereas as Black Mage I'm sitting there like a loving shithead going "I'm not moving for this, I'm not moving for that, you lot do this gimmick, yeah, put yourself out, go gently caress yourself, for me." Of course this would be okay if you're dealing such stupid levels of damage people are just gawping at you, but then you're actually getting outdpsed by a Summoner on every conceivable level so yeah. Chucat fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Nov 12, 2017 |
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Never not MCH LB3 when it isn't needed specifically for something. Got booted from the zone halfway through the screenshotting, and before I could get a gif recorded, though. I also learned a valuable lesson: Leaving the housing zone via ferry skipper clears your "last spell animation used" tag. And here I was trying to be considerate by not doing artillery weapons testing in a residential area. I mean, the last time I did it, the Maelstrom got all pissy and made me have to fill in the divots that were behind, I highly doubt the Hingans would have been more enthused. And they wouldn't even let me use shaped charges to speed the job along, either. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Nov 12, 2017 |
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Nov 12, 2017 13:44
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Never not MCH LB3 when it isn't needed specifically for something. Why I love getting Ifrit hard in trial roulette. Great place to snipe the lb3 from everyone else.  Cause it's you and me and all of the targets with no place to run, no place to hide
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Nov 12, 2017 15:13
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SwissArmyDruid posted:gently caress, I just noticed I didn't say what I was getting scrip with. I'm not sure exactly when the diminishing returns kick in, but I'm a level 65 fisher. My spot of choice for gathering scrips is Mok Oogl Island, because that has Vampiric Tapestries and Moogle Spirits which are worth the same base 12 scrips as Illuminati Perch. You have to fish with Giant Crane Flies, that can only be acquired via scrips (one blue scrip per bait), but the catch rate on the fish that are collectables is high enough that you'll still be making a profit on scrips. Especially if you use Patience when it's available.
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Nov 12, 2017 17:48
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I'm playing this game for the first time and enjoying it, but my main class is almost level 30 and I feel like I still have no idea how almost any system but basic combat works. I think I bought equipment fir the first time in my early 20s but have otherwise just been using gear from quests and dungeons. Am I gimping myself by not caring more about gear? Are there other systems/mechanics i've neglected that I shouldn't have?
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Nov 12, 2017 18:40
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Nonexistence posted:I'm playing this game for the first time and enjoying it, but my main class is almost level 30 and I feel like I still have no idea how almost any system but basic combat works. I think I bought equipment fir the first time in my early 20s but have otherwise just been using gear from quests and dungeons. Am I gimping myself by not caring more about gear? Are there other systems/mechanics i've neglected that I shouldn't have? For now, the only item you should really be concerned about is your weapon. If the rest of your stuff falls behind a bit, no big deal, but Weapon Damage is the single biggest contributor to anything you do.
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Nov 12, 2017 18:41
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Chucat posted:I'm glad they thought Manawall was too good in 2.x because it let you ignore knockbacks and physical damage so they proceeded to nerf that into the ground before taking Surecast (literally the worst spell in the game) away from Black Mages and making it a cross class spell and then basically giving it the knockback reduction from Manawall but on an ultra low cooldown. Sure cast was always cross class though?
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Nov 12, 2017 18:51
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hobbesmaster posted:Sure cast was always cross class though? No, it was a Thaumaturge ability that other classes could cross class, now it's just a generic cross class ability. See: All those White Mage abilities that got caught with the same thing.
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Nov 12, 2017 19:02
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Nonexistence posted:I'm playing this game for the first time and enjoying it, but my main class is almost level 30 and I feel like I still have no idea how almost any system but basic combat works. I think I bought equipment fir the first time in my early 20s but have otherwise just been using gear from quests and dungeons. Am I gimping myself by not caring more about gear? Are there other systems/mechanics i've neglected that I shouldn't have? For your first class, questing alone should provide you enough gear, the MSQ practically shoves equipment at you and several side quests also offer gear. For classes you level after your first, you will likely need other sources of equipment, such as dungeon drops and vendors. Also, make sure you do all your class and job quests, they're super important.
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Since someone else brought up caster role actions, I'm going to give my outrageous opinion here. I wish Protect wasn't a role action, but a -10% damage taken oGCD ability for WHMs or something. Meanwhile, make Ruin 2 a role action (for healers and casters) and stop sucking up to SCHs.
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Nov 12, 2017 20:54
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The best minions you can get are the ones where you come in for the final boss and then win by 1 point ;3 http://puu.sh/ykzAC/e94a61dd9d.webm
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Nov 12, 2017 21:00
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The best minions you can get are the ones where you come in for the final boss and then win by 1 point ;3 You monster. 
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Nov 12, 2017 21:08
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Ibblebibble posted:You monster. You want to know the worse one? I got the Predator Magitek Armor Mount by joining at the very last boss as a DPS.
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Nov 12, 2017 21:10
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Did you win it from an FC mate? ('cos I beat Ibblebibble by one point)
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Nov 12, 2017 21:17
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Did you win it from an FC mate? Oh okay you actually are a monster.
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ruta posted:Since someone else brought up caster role actions, I'm going to give my outrageous opinion here. Protect as a role action is extremely dumb, I agree. TBH I don't like role actions in general. At least with cross-class actions you didn't have to swap them depending on what content you were doing.
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Nov 12, 2017 21:37
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The fact that you can just switch them leads one to wonder why they make you choose at all
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Nov 12, 2017 21:39
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ImpAtom posted:Oh okay you actually are a monster. I know, it's extremely beautiful. vOv posted:Protect as a role action is extremely dumb, I agree. There's really zero excuse to not have the benefits of Protect baked into all characters at this point.
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Nov 12, 2017 21:55
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ZZZorcerer posted:The group discord invite is expired/invalid, how do I get a new one ? https://discord.gg/XSXCzEQ I assume you mean the main goon one? This should work.
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Yoship wants to get rid of Protect anyway right? Wonder why they haven't just done it, i woulden't miss it no matter what role i'm playing.
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Nov 12, 2017 21:59
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Ainsley McTree posted:The fact that you can just switch them leads one to wonder why they make you choose at all I think it's because from a design standpoint they want players to have to choose what skills they run based off of what content they're running. I'm not sure how well this works in practice because I haven't used anything other than the same 5 role skills for tank. I think healing had the most variety in terms of what skills you take but it seemed like mostly just "do I need to take x for this fight?" In terms of selection
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Yoship wants to get rid of Protect anyway right? Wonder why they haven't just done it, i woulden't miss it no matter what role i'm playing. He wanted protect in because it was a base final fantasy skill. They should've just removed it and renamed benison to protect.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Yoship wants to get rid of Protect anyway right? Wonder why they haven't just done it, i woulden't miss it no matter what role i'm playing. I recall him saying some of it is that people expect it nowadays regardless of how little impact it has on the content they're doing. It'll make a difference in Ultimate, probably, and Savage too perhaps. You don't need it elsewise. Protect working like Divine Benison or its PVP version would be the best solution to it without removing it entirely.
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MechaCrash posted:I'm not sure exactly when the diminishing returns kick in, but I'm a level 65 fisher. My spot of choice for gathering scrips is Mok Oogl Island, because that has Vampiric Tapestries and Moogle Spirits which are worth the same base 12 scrips as Illuminati Perch. You have to fish with Giant Crane Flies, that can only be acquired via scrips (one blue scrip per bait), but the catch rate on the fish that are collectables is high enough that you'll still be making a profit on scrips. Especially if you use Patience when it's available. I can't say whether or not that's a better thing to do, since they rejiggered the tables for HW post-blue scrip removal. I believe Moogle Spirits were worth a lot more red scrip than vampiric tapestries at the time, with the differentiator being that vampiric tapestries were available as a turn-in almost every day, but moogle spirits not. Either way, whatever you can catch or gather easily so you can turn in a whole inventory full, then cash out to blue scrip tokens for your crystal sand.
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Xun posted:My gatherers are like level 56 I got mining from 48 up to 52.5 today. 
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Sinners Sandwich posted:How are servers tonight? planning on spending some time , last night was disaster for me. Honestly, it varies. I was playing earlier in the morning and there were still fairly regular lag spikes.
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Agraya posted:https://discord.gg/XSXCzEQ I'm already on the main one, is there a specific discord for FF ?
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ZZZorcerer posted:I'm already on the main one, is there a specific discord for FF ? This link goes to the specific FF one
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I recall him saying some of it is that people expect it nowadays regardless of how little impact it has on the content they're doing. You need it to make the tank start moving in roulettes.
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Leofish posted:You need it to make the tank start moving in roulettes. I just say the Pope says I can't use protection. Either people laugh and go on, or they have a meltdown. Usually the meltdown ones don't use any cool downs and massive pull, then blame it on the lack of Protect.
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Rather than free mitigation so I can dps harder I don't take it so I can take other great options like umm...break.
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https://twitter.com/EorzeanModel/status/929872864270016512
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The best minions you can get are the ones where you come in for the final boss and then win by 1 point ;3 I still need to collect minions. That said, I DID win the Magitek Predator mount with a 14 Need roll. 
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Do you guys not use a macro to slot protect, cast it, then switch back to swiftcast or whatever? It's one button.
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SWOLE GOBLINS made it past ED at last, even with the server lag making Black Holes jump miles at a time.
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I used a macro for Protect until it screwed up and then I didn't have swiftcast. Really, "use a macro" isn't a good defence. The spell is lovely and it should be removed from the game or be made less lovely. It's bad enough that I have to play magical chairs with esuna/surecast/rescue because they're so situational. I don't want to screw around with Protect because everyone wants the placebo buff because "but it's been there since ff11!"
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ruta posted:I used a macro for Protect until it screwed up and then I didn't have swiftcast. But it looks really cool
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