WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Not if Labor whip over it, why would Labor allow a conscience vote if Yes wins?

JBP posted:

Turnbull needs to think about his legacy at this stage.]

JBP posted:

He's demonstrably vindictive enough to do this if there's nothing left to lose, which there isn't.

I am advocating that he make this move based on ego to establish his legacy, not to feel good that he did it.

Burn Down Canberra posted:

That is the party position ? That said I believe Chris Hayes wrote that he would respect the result of the plebiscite so they might vote yes. It will easily pass if the plebiscite wins. Just maybe not every labor MP will vote in favour of it.

Don Dongington posted:

I expect Malcolm knows that he has Entsch, Pyne, Frydenberg and Bishop in his corner and that's really all he needs to get a non-lovely bill through the house. Likewise in the senate, Brandis, Birmingham and a few others + the ALP, lionhat, Xenophon and the Greens would sail it through comfortably.

quote:

Polling in Bennelong on the weekend before Kristina Keneally’s candidacy was announced had the government ahead 56-44 per cent in the seat - a comfortable victory for Malcolm Turnbull.

Political sources have told The Australian that the polling showed that John Alexander was set to retain the seat with a three per cent swing against him after his resignation due to citizenship issues.

Labor are now hoping Ms Keneally’s candidacy will improve their position.

Ms Keneally knew about the polling when she decided to run for the seat.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Or, let me put this another way - you're on the same side as Tony Abbott.

Don Dongington posted:

THAT'S THE ENTIRE loving PARTY PLATFORM YOU TREE TORY PISSBAG

Box of Bunnies posted:

I'm not saying "hey, let's legislate discrimination." That's all loving terrible and the fact that they're trying to use SSM to grind their boots into our throats in that way is incredibly disheartening. I'm saying that if they do I'd rather know where the bigots are before I try to patronise them. Slap a big grey star in their windows so I know where to avoid.

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Run a competition asking Sydney to name a new ferry, expect the outright silliest name to win.

Ferry McFerryface is now officially the name of the last ferry in a new fleet of inner harbour vessels.
The name was voted on by hundreds of Sydneysiders in a competition which allowed the public to be part of maritime history.
However, the most votes actually went to the name Boaty McBoatface, the notable title Brits voted to call a new research vessel last year.

But Minister for Transport and Infrastructure Andrew Constance said they wanted to avoid a double up.
"Given Boaty was already taken by another vessel, we've gone with the next most popular name nominated by Sydneysiders," Mr Constance said.

"Ferry McFerryface will be the harbour's newest icon, and I hope it brings a smile to the faces of visitors and locals alike.
"This one is for the kids."

More than 15,000 suggestions were made in the Name Your Ferry competition and three of the six new ferries have already been picked by voters: Victor Chang (Australian heart surgeon), Fred Hollows (ophthalmologist) and Catherine Hamlin (obstetrician).

The suggested names were considered by a four-person panel comprising of Australian National Maritime Museum director and chief executive Kevin Sumption, former NSW Volunteer of the Year Patrick Dodd, NSW Young Australian of the Year Melissa Abu-Gazaleh and Australian Museum director and chief executive Kim McKay.

When voting opened Mr Constance urged the public: "Let's really generate some of the best names possible."
The new fleet has capacity for about 400 customers, improved accessibility for people with disabilities, wi-fi access, luggage and bicycle storage areas and charging stations for electronic devices.
The Boaty McBoatface legacy has spread worldwide, with an express train in Sweden named Trainy McTrainface earlier this year and a team at Sydney's Warwick Farm racecourse naming their horse Horsey McHorseface last year.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Also isn't it highly likely that she won't be back since they've changed the way preferences and the like work?

Halo14 posted:

Ferry McFerryface to be name of new Sydney ferry after public vote

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-13/sydney-ferry-will-actually-be-called-ferry-mcferryface/9146446

Gorilla Salad posted:

And they get to slap a lovely pink star on your sleeve so they know who you are.

BBJoey posted:

i wonder when the very funny boaty mcboatface joke is going to run its course or if it’s going to become a name like endeavour that will keep coming up for centuries to come

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I think you two are talking past each other too much.

Bunnies wants business to publicly out themselves as homophobes so they know not to give them any business (and more than likely a lot of places would not agree to put up a sign since they have some semblance of shame about their position). Gorilla Salad thinks allowing that will turn country towns into Nazi death camps complete with stars for gays/jews? idgi

Wheezle posted:

Is it really so hard to appreciate that shops with signs saying "NO GAYS" might have a detrimental effect on many in the LGBTI community?

Gorilla Salad posted:

And they get to slap a lovely pink star on your sleeve so they know who you are.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The blanks are for MPs who haven't responded. Sadly you can't sort by party but there are a lot more Liberal MPs in favour than you probably think.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I think you two are talking past each other too much.

Bunnies wants business to publicly out themselves as homophobes so they know not to give them any business (and more than likely a lot of places would not agree to put up a sign since they have some semblance of shame about their position). Gorilla Salad thinks allowing that will turn country towns into Nazi death camps complete with stars for gays/jews? idgi

Don Dongington posted:

THAT'S THE ENTIRE loving PARTY PLATFORM YOU TREE TORY PISSBAG

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Want to know how an MP is planning to vote on marriage equality?

The ABC has a good site.



E: The blanks are for MPs who haven't responded. Sadly you can't sort by party but there are a lot more Liberal MPs in favour than you probably think.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Want to know how an MP is planning to vote on marriage equality?

The ABC has a good site.



E: The blanks are for MPs who haven't responded. Sadly you can't sort by party but there are a lot more Liberal MPs in favour than you probably think.

Gorilla Salad posted:

And they get to slap a lovely pink star on your sleeve so they know who you are.

cohsae posted:

I understand the desire to see homophobic businesses be public about their hatred so that they can be named and shamed, but ultimately would it lead to more or less discrimination and hatred against gay people?
I can only see it making things worse.

quote:

A cross-party group of senators will immediately back senator Dean Smith's bill, which will be introduced to the senate on Wednesday afternoon if a "yes" vote is announced in the same-sex marriage postal survey.

BuzzFeed News understands that a motion to introduce the bill will go before the Senate on Wednesday afternoon if a "yes" vote is successful, with debate planned to begin on Thursday morning.

The bill will be introduced by Smith, who will be joined by Liberal senators Linda Reynolds and Jane Hume, as well as representatives from Labor, the Greens, the Nick Xenophon Team and Derryn Hinch.

The combination of MPs backing the bill will likely give it the crucial numbers needed to pass the Senate and go to the lower house.

This gives the Smith bill an immediate advantage over its legislative rival, a bill penned by Liberal senator James Paterson.

The debate on the Smith bill is expected to start on Thursday and carry through to the next parliamentary sitting week, beginning in late November. Any amendments to the bill will be reserved for that sitting week.