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Nov 15, 2017 03:33
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I keep seeing that 38.4% bumped up to 40% when No supporters comment on articles 
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Nov 15, 2017 03:36
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quote:Next steps on the leftist agenda.. quote:I think when it comes to lowering the age of consent the Catholic Church at least would be massive supporters
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Nov 15, 2017 03:45
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I'm not up to date on The Manifesto, someone remind me what polygamous gender marriage is.
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Nov 15, 2017 03:48
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I live in Mitchell in NSW, which is home to Hillsong and the north-west in general is full of christian fuckheads and old people with old money so its not much surprise that they got such a high No Vote. but yeah more than anything this shows that immigrants and poor people are pretty conservative or Greens arent hitting them hard enough.
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Nov 15, 2017 03:51
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BBJoey posted:so you’re of the view that tony burke should vote no? No. I just want these bigots to vote yes. I realise my logic here may be somewhat contradictory, but this is just me posting my opinion on the internet, so 
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Nov 15, 2017 03:53
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fiery_valkyrie posted:No. I just want these bigots to vote yes. beep boop internal logic inconsistency detected, proceeding to effortpost
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Nov 15, 2017 03:57
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Lots of Christian posters banking on AIDS sorting out the gays. I've got some bad news for them about gay men and the prevalence of AIDS, plus some even worse news for them about cancer.
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Nov 15, 2017 03:59
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snoremac posted:
Divorce would undermine "our most sacred institution, and have serious consequences for children who would grow up without a mother or father," Mr Jensen said.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:00
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https://www.pollbludger.net/2017/11/15/sex-marriage-survey-61-6-yes-38-4-no/ This is a good tool.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:06
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Hmmmm so Labor heartland in Sydney votes no? Is it the wahhabists?? 
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Nov 15, 2017 04:08
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Anidav posted:Hmmmm so Labor heartland in Sydney votes no? Chinese Christians are very anti-gay.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:13
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bewilderment posted:Chinese Christians are very anti-gay. They're also very anti-Labor??? fiery_valkyrie posted:No. I just want these bigots to vote yes. It's not really an issue of logic, seeing as voting yes is the right thing to do, and voting no is not. It's not a matter of opinion and it never was.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:15
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Really cool how 38% of responders vote no and yet some righties are still pointing fingers at minority groups in NSW voted for. Don't reckon most gay people really feel as threatened by them as they do by the roughly 50% bogans in most regional areas.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:17
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Anidav posted:Hmmmm so Labor heartland in Sydney votes no? Is everyone on wechat melting down?
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Nov 15, 2017 04:18
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EoinCannon posted:What are the points? I don't know much about national economic matters I just went and re-read the article again after letting the yes vote thing have its time today, and the main thing it never really touches on is any sort of philosophical point of "what is a good thing to do with your life". It almost does it towards the end with the "she'll be right mate" quote but the rest of it is just stats and comparisons and dire warnings about what may happen in the future. He may be right about the property market and the banks and so on but the fact is, if anything he's saying actually comes true, everybody in australia may be hosed, but we'll all be hosed together. This might manifest itself in a recession or a depression, but in this event the dollar would tank a bit and suddenly the "expensive" labour market would become cheaper compared to international and the economy would produce things in different proportion. The real risk if this happens, which he does zero to actually address, is what happens if there is mass unemployment in a recession, because that usually leads to extremist politics and we all know how that ends up. edit: Actually now that I think about it it's also another case of business not willing to spend serious dollars on training their own staff, because the education process has been outsourced/externalised into the universities. If business were serious about having and keeping talent in Australia they'd educate them themselves. Oh well.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:20
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bewilderment posted:Chinese Christians are very anti-gay. also the lebanese
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Nov 15, 2017 04:24
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Anidav posted:Hmmmm so Labor heartland in Sydney votes no? Radical Pacific Islanders
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Nov 15, 2017 04:24
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Les Affaires posted:I just went and re-read the article again after letting the yes vote thing have its time today, and the main thing it never really touches on is any sort of philosophical point of "what is a good thing to do with your life". It almost does it towards the end with the "she'll be right mate" quote but the rest of it is just stats and comparisons and dire warnings about what may happen in the future.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:28
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It really does depend on who's treasurer at the time. If it's Scomo, Bowen or some other neoliberal wet paper bag, we're probably going to suffer as neoliberalism presents no solutions for a recession, as it assumes that such a thing can't happen under glorious reaganomics. If it's someone like Wayne Swann or Doug Cameron calling the shots, which would lead to quick, decisive action to cushion the blow and start a cycle of rapid investment, we'd probably do okay, until the Murdoch Media fired up the outrage machine anyway.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:36
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Don Dongington posted:It really does depend on who's treasurer at the time. A bit too cynical for my tastes. The bureaucracy still exists in large part to shield politicians from their own stupidity. Think what you like about Scomo but he's wedged between the facts as they are and the politics of his base. He has been in his position long enough to have been explained the basics of modern keynesian stimulus and so on such that you've seen him gradually move his base towards greater intervention to stop the slide. The facts presented to Bowen would be no different except the only thing holding him back would be his own views, which in the face of facts (which to Labor's credit they are a lot better at accepting politically) he would have no choice but to bend towards.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:42
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Crossposting from the Quiltbag thread:Gorilla Salad posted:Breakdown of voting:
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Nov 15, 2017 04:45
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Don Dongington posted:It really does depend on who's treasurer at the time. Bowen is going to crash the housing market by reforming negative gearing, inshallah
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Nov 15, 2017 04:48
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Nov 15, 2017 05:01
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Krabboss posted:Really cool how 38% of responders vote no and yet some righties are still pointing fingers at minority groups in NSW voted for. Don't reckon most gay people really feel as threatened by them as they do by the roughly 50% bogans in most regional areas. Seems more of a problem with lovely Western Sydney residents than lovely foreigners. I can't see any significant relationship between minority communities in Vic or other states and voting no.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:08
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I'm curious whether the "It's O.K to Say No" campaign was a success in terms of convincing anyone or if people who might've been swayed were turned off by how  it was.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:14
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:Seems more of a problem with lovely Western Sydney residents than lovely foreigners. I can't see any significant relationship between minority communities in Vic or other states and voting no. Ahhh well for Bruce "the division had the nation's highest proportion of residents born overseas (50.8%) and the third highest proportion born in a non-English speaking country (45.4%)." And for Calwell "the electorate had the nation's third highest proportion of Catholics (38.5%) and the third highest proportion of residents of Islamic faith (16.8%), the highest in Victoria." The two no voters in Vic share the highest population of whatevers compared to everywhere else. e: that's 2011 census info JBP fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 05:14
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:Seems more of a problem with lovely Western Sydney residents than lovely foreigners. I can't see any significant relationship between minority communities in Vic or other states and voting no. How do you want to define minority community? All this data is publicly available and easy to look up.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:17
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JBP posted:Ahhh well for Bruce "the division had the nation's highest proportion of residents born overseas (50.8%) and the third highest proportion born in a non-English speaking country (45.4%)." Yeah I said that after glancing over the electorate map but then I saw this article. It's a bit of an awkward situation for both leftists and right wingers. I wonder if some of it can be explained by immigrants being less likely to vote at all though.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:21
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Red rooster locations vs voting electorates
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Nov 15, 2017 05:21
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Doctor Spaceman posted:https://twitter.com/kevinbonham/status/930587704441520128 Thanks, I will when I get home if I'm not too drunk. I wonder how good the parties are going to be tonight.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:24
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:Yeah I said that after glancing over the electorate map but then I saw this article. Why is it awkward?
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Nov 15, 2017 05:27
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snoremac posted:I'm curious whether the "It's O.K to Say No" campaign was a success in terms of convincing anyone or if people who might've been swayed were turned off by how Considering 'It's okay to be white' came directly on its heels I don't think they really care if poo poo makes them sound like massive whinging shitheads,
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Nov 15, 2017 05:28
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Red rooster locations vs voting electorates There are multiple Red Roosters in Newcastle though which had a fairly high yes vote.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:28
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Red rooster locations vs voting electorates Hahaha Fowler
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Nov 15, 2017 05:28
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Birdstrike posted:Why is it awkward? Because my fellow progressive Aussie and I now need to hang all the immigrants if we want real progress.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:29
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Also, related to Asian Christian news, a fellow hard science PhD student tried to convince me to go with him to church a few years back. When I asked why he believed/converted, he told me that he knew a mentally challenged kid who always gave the correct answer to questions despite not having any logical reason for him knowing the correct answer. When asked about the existence of God, he said yes. Dude literally had a prophet in the back pocket lol
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JBP posted:Because my fellow progressive Aussie and I now need to hang all the poors if we want real progress. fixed for thread
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