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It's not like he had to be bad just because it was Steppenwolf. They could have altered him for the movie.
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Steppenwolf isn’t bad, he’s just not really noteworthy. I mean I’d wager more people had heard of freaking Whiplash before Iron Man 2 than him. They could have elevated the character’s profile with a good story but by all appearances they didn’t pull it off.
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Barry Convex posted:I don't know which out of Snyder, Goyer, or Terrio came up with the Martha bit, but that's exactly the sort of plot point that only someone who's convinced he's being extremely clever could come up with, which makes it all the more amusing how badly it worked and how poorly it was received. I'm pretty sure it was Snyder, I've seen several article taht basically were about him posting tweets patting himself on how some dumb background poo poo like Batman's kryptonite grenades having the letters Pb on them went unnoticed or how during a scene that was deleted from the theatrical cut but put back in for the Ultimate edition where a cop watched a football game was supposed to be a hit at Cyborg. David D. Davidson fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 21:31
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I don't remember exactly but there was another idiom involving the act of urination with Holly Hunter so there was an obsession going on there
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Steppenwolf sounds like the name of a Danish rock band that think they're more hardcore than they actually are. "We're Steppenwolf! And we just spent all night mixing Pixie Stix with soda and knocking on other people's doors at the hotel! This next song is called 'The Devil Has Boobies!'"
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Nov 15, 2017 21:49
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Excuse me, we don't acknowledge how dumb Kirby names are.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:51
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There actually was a band called steppenwolf, they made Born to be Wild.
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They were Canadian.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I’m not sure it was ever there to be cut. Darkseid is mentioned once as a “for darkseid” statement. Never shown. Or explained / alluded who he is. Same with the New Gods. Just a quick name drop without context. The boom tubes aren’t explained either. Steppenwolf just uses them every now and then. No hint at the end of this “attack” being part of a bigger plan. There have been rumors from sites like Batman-On-Film that there were more extensive Darkseid/Fourth World teases in the shooting script (which may have even made it into earlier cuts of the film), including a full-on Darkseid cameo appearance a la Thanos. We'll probably never know for sure, but I'm inclined to believe them, because, well, why else would you choose fuckin' Steppenwolf as the villain?
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zoux posted:Why did you say that Zack's mother is also
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Aphrodite posted:It's not like he had to be bad just because it was Steppenwolf. They could have altered him for the movie. Definitely, but at least to some extent, his weakness as a villain probably stems from his being selected mainly to set up Darkseid for a film that now may never happen, as opposed to Snyder/Terrio actually having a story idea for him.
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David D. Davidson posted:There actually was a band called steppenwolf, they made Born to be Wild. They should have been the villains for Justice League.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:07
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Steppenwolf vs a hungry Duran Duran
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fruit on the bottom posted:Steppenwolf vs a hungry Duran Duran Like how hungry are we talking? is there some sort of animal it compares to?
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Nov 15, 2017 22:20
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Nothing comes to mind. Just really really hungry
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Hungry like a whale perhaps?
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David D. Davidson posted:There actually was a band called steppenwolf, they made Born to be Wild. They're the only Steppenwolf I have any kind of familiarity with, so it's what my brain defaults to when I'm reading summaries, which probably makes the movie sound a lot better than it really is.
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What are the box office projections on this thing?
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$110m-ish It's funny that there's all this handwringing and tinkering with movies that are massively successful. The first one of these that bombs is going to take half the board of directors with it. AV Club with the C-, yeesh. zoux fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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I still don't understand why Wonder Woman was even in BVS if she didn't play any role in the conflict between them. What if instead of that stupid Martha moment, she breaks up the fight and reasons with them? That way she's more than just a glorified cameo.
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JT Smiley posted:I still don't understand why Wonder Woman was even in BVS if she didn't play any role in the conflict between them. What if instead of that stupid Martha moment, she breaks up the fight and reasons with them? That way she's more than just a glorified cameo. It's to set up the shared universe.
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zoux posted:It's to set up the shared universe. Well yes, obviously. But within the context of the movie she serves no purpose.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:They're the only Steppenwolf I have any kind of familiarity with, so it's what my brain defaults to when I'm reading summaries, which probably makes the movie sound a lot better than it really is. Magic Carpet Ride is a jam. JT Smiley posted:I still don't understand why Wonder Woman was even in BVS.... So the movie could have at least one good thing.
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JT Smiley posted:Well yes, obviously. But within the context of the movie she serves no purpose. Well the movie wouldn't be worth watching otherwise, so she does serve some purpose.
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JT Smiley posted:Well yes, obviously. But within the context of the movie she serves no purpose. Yeah and that's one of the many problems with the movie. purple death ray posted:Well the movie wouldn't be worth watching otherwise, so she does serve some purpose. Fair.
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purple death ray posted:Well the movie wouldn't be worth watching otherwise, so she does serve some purpose. It’s not worth watching now, though.
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Nov 15, 2017 23:52
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 I can't wait to hear about this is actually Snyder satirizing and deconstructing the male gaze.
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TFRazorsaw posted:
No, it’s obviously Whedon’s fault.
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More likely completely incidental and exaggerated by the reviewer
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Al Borland Corp. posted:More likely completely incidental and exaggerated by the reviewer All part of the anti-DC conspiracy
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The camera was incidentally positioned in a way to see up Gal Gadot's skirt multiple times.
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fruit on the bottom posted:All part of the anti-DC conspiracy More like a psychosis
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Al Borland Corp. posted:More like a psychosis Dude, for real?
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Clearly the person who saw the movie and is complaining about dumb fan-service is crazy. But the dude who hasn't seen the movie and is accusing the reviewer of exaggerating as part of their anti-DC psychosis is perfectly normal.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:More like a psychosis I don’t think so, Tim.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I can't wait to hear about this is actually Snyder satirizing and deconstructing the male gaze. Phylodox posted:No, it’s obviously Whedon’s fault. 
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What if Zack Snyder/WB got George Miller to do the reshoots instead.
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Begins? It’s been going on for months already.
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