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FYI, Gloomhaven thread up thats half spoiler free and starting out chat and half goons lamenting their copy not arriving yet. Starting character classes are talked about openly with some good write-ups on how they play. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3840191
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Hey Lunatic Sledge, I tossed few bucks at your kickstarter. I hope the final-days rally gets you past the finish line.
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Anyone heard anything significantly good or bad about Tabula Rasa? It's in the final hours.
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Agent Rush posted:Anyone heard anything significantly good or bad about Tabula Rasa? It's in the final hours. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/225968/tabula-rasa Not many ratings, probably just run of the mill. They got about 2x their goal, so they weren't really expecting too much. Nothing really of note from what I can see.
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Agent Rush posted:Anyone heard anything significantly good or bad about Tabula Rasa? It's in the final hours. Well, it died back in 2009 (but was outlived a year or two by the litigation that followed).
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Three days left for John Wick's 7th Sea Khitai. I really like 7th Sea 2e, and this looks just as well done. Have they fixed the combat system yet? I wanted to like 7S 2E, but the combat sucked donkey dong.
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So how big is Gloomhaven compared to Ogre, as giant Kickstarter board game boxes go? I need better storage solutions...
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90s Cringe Rock posted:So how big is Gloomhaven compared to Ogre, as giant Kickstarter board game boxes go? I need better storage solutions... If it's like the multitude of copies I see out in the wild of Ogre: http://www.sjgames.com/img/newsq/illq/2013/OgrePan.jpg It's not as long/wide, but it's much much higher. Mainly because it's very dense, not a lot of flat pieces that Ogre seems to have to store.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:So how big is Gloomhaven compared to Ogre, as giant Kickstarter board game boxes go? I need better storage solutions... Here's a picture someone took that includes Ogre and Gloomhaven: 
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Foglet posted:Well, it died back in 2009 (but was outlived a year or two by the litigation that followed). Are you thinking of the video game?
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Nuns with Guns posted:Here's a picture someone took that includes Ogre and Gloomhaven: Oh man I didn't know they made a pocket-sized version of Twilight Struggle... oh... I keep forgetting just how massive the kickstarter version of Ogre was.
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Jedit posted:Are you thinking of the video game? Yeah, that was the (half-assed attempt of a) joke.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:So how big is Gloomhaven compared to Ogre, as giant Kickstarter board game boxes go? I need better storage solutions... Much more compact, not as big overall (but definitely my second biggest). But yes, taller for sure. That picture above gives a general idea but I feel like the perspective short sells just how monstrous the Ogre box is.
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Got my Gloomhaven box in the mail yesterday. Actually seeing the magnitude of the box is intimidating.
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Nov 16, 2017 16:57
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What's the black box on the bottom?
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Rhandhali posted:What's the black box on the bottom? Kingdom Death: Monster.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Kingdom Death: Monster. An amazing game, if your wallet is fat and you have tons of time to assemble/paint minis.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Here's a picture someone took that includes Ogre and Gloomhaven: See this is unfair. Twilight struggle should at least be inside its collectors edition briefcase.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Here's a picture someone took that includes Ogre and Gloomhaven: Is that apartment rent controlled?
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kinkouin posted:An amazing game, if your wallet is fat and you have tons of time to assemble/paint minis. No. It’s an amazing game if you enjoy gamifying sexual assault and misogyny. Thank you for outing yourself as a piece of poo poo!
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Arivia posted:gamifying sexual assault and misogyny *deep tentative breath* Could you elaborate?
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Arivia posted:No. It’s an amazing game if you enjoy gamifying sexual assault and misogyny. Thank you for outing yourself as a piece of poo poo! I did not end up getting Kingdom Death because the combined weight of all the lovely stuff about it outweighed the cool models (i.e the ones that weren't severed head boob ladies being used as bookholders or my avatar) and concepts that I liked (A monster hunter style boardgame where your characters kill stuff and upgrade their amour). At the time of the kickstarter I was much more tempted by the cool parts, hence my avatar. Someone needs to do a monster hunter boardgame.
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Subjunctive posted:*deep tentative breath* kingdom death website posted:So great was Satan’s self-obsession that it split into twin hermaphrodite lovers to share the world with itself. They roam Kingdom Death, drunk with self-lust and power, trapped by their own vanity in fragile human frames. Their armor of living tongues shares the taste of the world between the twins. Satan is a vicious masochist, poisoning the minds of any it comes across. The pair is well hated by other entities, as they only seek to disrupt balance for their own satisfaction. That's my favorite stupid kingdom death monster description
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tbh Kingdom Death is not a good game imo. Its a somewhat okay story generator but as a game it fails to provide an experience you can actually improve on, with how dominant the game relies on d% and just straight d10 rolls to do everything. Usually with a built-in 10% chance to die.
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Kingdom Death also has a ton of events that happen between battles, where you roll to get the event then roll a d10 to see what happens. On a bunch of them, a roll of 10 means you just die.
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Cerepol posted:tbh Kingdom Death is not a good game imo. Its a somewhat okay story generator but as a game it fails to provide an experience you can actually improve on, with how dominant the game relies on d% and just straight d10 rolls to do everything. Usually with a built-in 10% chance to die. Tell that to the people on BGG Facebook group who are eager to tell you about its deep, tactical gameplay.  I had to play a few games of it since my friend insisted it got better past the lion balls scenario. It did not.
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I watched the SUSD of KDM and it looked like a campaign game where you continually gently caress yourself into failing and restarting the whole campaign until you get bored and regret dropping hundreds of dollars.
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Subjunctive posted:*deep tentative breath* https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/collections/sold-out
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Subjunctive posted:*deep tentative breath* Forcibly breeding women is a game mechanic. There are tons of rapist monsters, most of them designed to be played with with only one hand. You can use a monster’s breast pump on women for game benefits. Like it’s really the kind of thing where the hole goes as deep as you look, and it keeps just getting worse. @MrFibble good on you for admitting you were wrong and making the right choice. That’s difficult to do.
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Chill la Chill posted:Tell that to the people on BGG Facebook group who are eager to tell you about its deep, tactical gameplay. A lot of membership crossover with the Age of Sigmar facebook groups then 
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Arivia posted:@MrFibble good on you for admitting you were wrong and making the right choice. That’s difficult to do. The more you look into Kingdom Death the harder it is to say 'well you can ignore the creepy stuff'. Learning about some of the non battle gameplay just put me off entirely. But man, I'm willing to bet a non rapey game where you get 3-4 monsters + 4-5 sets of hunters outfitted in monster guts would sell almost as well. Not real money betting of course because in reality a lot of people were buying the 'pin-up' models.
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MrFlibble posted:Not real money betting of course because in reality a lot of people were buying the 'pin-up' models. Hell yes they did, I just looked the game up and they pulled in over 14 million dollars between the two Kickstarters. Jesus, I thought Gloomhaven was big at only just over 4 million.
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Imagine how much money Root could rake in if it had mouse and fox tits stapled to everything. And imagine how I'd have to burn my copies of Wehrle's infamous traffic and john company 
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Rhandhali posted:Hell yes they did, I just looked the game up and they pulled in over 14 million dollars between the two Kickstarters. Jesus, I thought Gloomhaven was big at only just over 4 million. The Gloomhaven guy made one good game and just made that as good as it could be, as I understand it. There's like 10 actual expansions for Kingdom Death, the pinup models with extra rules bits, other models with more stuff, and so on. And Kingdom Death was incredibly expensive - $400 to Gloomhaven's $160 or so.
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I just realized Gloom =/ Gloomhaven.
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Arivia posted:The Gloomhaven guy made one good game and just made that as good as it could be, as I understand it. There's like 10 actual expansions for Kingdom Death, the pinup models with extra rules bits, other models with more stuff, and so on. And Kingdom Death was incredibly expensive - $400 to Gloomhaven's $160 or so.
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Bombadilillo posted:$99 Shipped for 2nd printing kickstarter. I'd heard $160 as the retail price, to compare to the $400 I just saw on the Kingdom Death website.
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I think they're shooting for $130-140, but I wouldn't be surprised to see $160. Either way obviously a much better alternative, both mechanically and uh, morally.
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