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Nibble posted:I'm thinking about jumping in for the season journey, but I'm torn between Monk and Wiz. Monk was my first class and I haven't revisited it in a while, but I really enjoyed blowing up full screens of mobs from afar a couple of seasons ago with DH, and Wiz seems like more of that. Vyr's blows but it shouldn't take you long to set up a proper Firebird or Tal meteor build. Both benefit a lot from getting right up in their face and unleashing everything. Aint nothin' ranged about it.  https://i.imgur.com/ovMVU5a.gifv
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Vyr's blows but it shouldn't take you long to set up a proper Firebird or Tal meteor build. Both benefit a lot from getting right up in their face and unleashing everything. Aint nothin' ranged about it. Do console players get massacre bonuses in GRs? How does that build work? I don't see that many spellcasts but a ton of meteors. Where are all these flaming balls of magma coming from"?
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The Wonder Weapon posted:With all the gear and skill changes, are there any builds that are playable now that weren't before? I notice Tempest Rush got several buffs, for instance.
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twice burned ice posted:Do console players get massacre bonuses in GRs? Yes, consoles get the same bonuses. Nephalim orbs give us bonus damage for a short bit instead of speed though. I teleport in with Calamity (arcane) I mash Frost Nova (Ice) You can see both those go cooldown I tap Meteor cast (fire) I press and hold Arcane Torrent for the final proc (lightning) Etched Sigil means Meteor auto-casts from my holding of Arcane Torrent. One of the meteor runes is meteor shower, 7 smaller meteors that randomly impact around a target. Maker Of Shoes fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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The Wonder Weapon posted:With all the gear and skill changes, are there any builds that are playable now that weren't before? I notice Tempest Rush got several buffs, for instance. Tempest rush is one of the 3 skills that Sunwuko can buff hugely, and it's semi-viable now, but it's still not as good as LTK or WoL
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Efexeye posted:pc players dont get massacre bonuses in GRs Oh? That seems like an odd omission. It's just experience so I wonder why they turn that off.
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PC players also don't see health bars until they've lost some, at least I haven't found away to always show health bars, I wish I had that.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Oh? That seems like an odd omission. It's just experience so I wonder why they turn that off. There are a few pieces of gear that interact with Massacre Bonuses too, right? I can't imagine any of them are too powerful to allow in Grifts though.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:PC players also don't see health bars until they've lost some, at least I haven't found away to always show health bars, I wish I had that. eh, you should be staring at your cooldowns anyway 
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standoff says: Furious Charge deals increased damage equal to 400-500% of bonus movement speed. if I have 25% movement speed from paragon does having extra movement speed on boots/necklace/etc contribute to this bonus at all?
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Hawzy posted:standoff says: Furious Charge deals increased damage equal to 400-500% of bonus movement speed. Paragon Points and Gear Rolls (Boots, Rings, etc.) can only contribute a maximum of 25% movement speed Skills can also increase movement speed above that 25% Certain Legendary Gems can also increase movement speed above that 25% Certain Gear Set Bonuses (not rolls!) can also increase movement speed above that 25% Anything that gets you to or above that 25% will contribute to that damage bonus!
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Bit of a slow start this season with Crusader. Somehow managed to find Akkhan set + all the crucial gear for Holy Shotgun build, but still haven't seen a single Johanna's flail or obsidian ring to make hammers work, so I thought I'd try that to do T10 rifts without dying all the time and...this is pretty terrible. Aside from still only having poo poo jewellery (no CoE or endless walk set yet) and not nearly enough CDR to keep Akarat up (which is fixable eventually), it seems there's no way of delivering real damage on demand - it's all from the block procs, right? Sure, when something is hitting me it goes down fast, block chance is high enough, but that seems a bit finicky, and forces you to keep moving around to face things. And goblins, Jesus. Those don't attack at all, so how are you supposed to deal with them? Not to mention bloody Urzael - he doesn't really attack with anything you want to be getting hit by, so I just spent 5 minutes plinking away at that fucker with Punish & the occasional fury for a bounty. What am I missing with this? Maybe I should just roll a Barbarian to make use of all the strength gear, apparently that's the hot poo poo this season?
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xiansi posted:Bit of a slow start this season with Crusader. Somehow managed to find Akkhan set + all the crucial gear for Holy Shotgun build, but still haven't seen a single Johanna's flail or obsidian ring to make hammers work, so I thought I'd try that to do T10 rifts without dying all the time and...this is pretty terrible. On the other hand, I can attest that the Condemn build is hilarious and shits all over everything. My gear is still pretty mediocre for it, and I'm using some kludged-together stuff (Leoric's in cube, CDR roll on amulet, Justice Lantern + Hold Your Ground, that sort of thing) to make it go smoothly... and smooth it is. It's basically a WW barb that clicks more often when you're in TXIII (use Unleashed) and I can sleepwalk through 65s with my speed options still on. As a side note, The Thrill is absolutely trivial with Condemn. Throw on the weapon and shield and you can basically do it in yellows otherwise.
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bio347 posted:The so-called "lazy shotgun" build is basically what you've described, yeah. It's pretty much entirely reactive and only really works in density in rifts (and the Shield of Fury is temporarily disabled right now so it's artificially weaker than it should be on top of that). If you want to do other stuff with it, you're probably going to have to use the actual shotgun rune so that you can pro-actively hit things - though that will cause a toughness loss from lack of Aquila.. I guess this? https://www.icy-veins.com/d3/crusader-akkhan-condemn-build-patch-2-6-1-season-12 Looks like fun - you can't go far wrong with "build up a massive explosion"! Have most of the stuff, and a Furnace just dropped for me (remember when that was amazing?), so it's worth a go before I abandon Crusader. Of course I am lacking a Blade of Prophecy, so I expect trying for that will now deliver me an endless stream of Faithful Memory swords that it took so long to get one of...
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xiansi posted:I guess this? - I would generally recommend using the Furnace in your hand over the Blade of Prophecy, because BoP has a much higher variation on its legendary property (though if you find a good one, it doesn't matter overmuch). I think I've found more Furnaces than Blades this season anyhow. - Aquila in the cube is questionable because it can be difficult to keep up, even with Long Arm of the Law and Unstoppable Force. I use Leoric's, especially early, so that you have an easier time hitting perma-Akarat. - Two Unity rings is a giant pain. I haven't found even one yet, so I run a Justice Lantern in the cube with Hold Your Ground over LAotL. It's good enough for TXIII, though for higher stuff you'll definitely be squishier. If you don't have F&R yet, something I did for a while was Justice Lantern and Convention of Elements equipped, Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac cubed. It's a bit odd, but actually works pretty well while you're working on your CDR. - Diamonds in your chest and pants help a ton, Finery basically makes up the difference. - IMO, use Condemn/Unleashed for everything except pushing. You'll probably be one-shotting most stuff anyway, and the instant explosion is just so satisfying. Also means you can wear Nemesis instead of Strongarm, which is nice for DBs.
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I haven't played D3 in a while, since like season 6? But I just found this a week ago, and I'm loving shilling away for it, because it's basically Greater Rifts: The Game: On Your Phone: While You poo poo: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3659022&perpage=40&pagenumber=512#post478502574 No multiplayer yet, but apparently an alpha of multiplayer was mentioned earlier this year so a solid maybe. And when/if that day comes, I will powerlevel the gently caress out of people the way season HC players did for me. e: posting this here since the philistines in the iOS thread can't appreciate smashing their face into a grift over and over to make numbers get bigger to smash their face harder into the next grift Tempora Mutantur fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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bazomatic posted:I haven't played D3 in a while, since like season 6? But I just found this a week ago, and I'm loving shilling away for it, because it's basically Greater Rifts: The Game: On Your Phone: While You poo poo: Making Fun is a lovely game company. gently caress your mobile shitgame.
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Toshimo posted:Making Fun is a lovely game company. gently caress your mobile shitgame. I didn't know this, care to elaborate? I'd rather tear some posts down if they're legit horrible, cause Eternium is a pretty great timekiller. poo poo, it doesn't even ask for any extra permissions, at least on Android. e: son of a bitch NewsCorp allegedly bought them, but I can only find a 2011 article about it and their main website doesn't have any content prior to 2015, so I wanna believe that Fox isn't yet again benefiting from something I like that they will surely gently caress up horribly Tempora Mutantur fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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bazomatic posted:I didn't know this, care to elaborate? I'd rather tear some posts down if they're legit horrible, cause Eternium is a pretty great timekiller. poo poo, it doesn't even ask for any extra permissions, at least on Android. For instance, Making Fun tied up the license for Dominion Online for 2 years constantly promising a code rewrite after picking the existing code up from Goko. They never delivered. The Steam Greenlight version: never delivered. But they still kept collecting money like clockwork. Delivered basically nothing, lost the license, then all the apps they sold bricked.
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Toshimo posted:For instance, Making Fun tied up the license for Dominion Online for 2 years constantly promising a code rewrite after picking the existing code up from Goko. They never delivered. The Steam Greenlight version: never delivered. You're right though, MakingFun seems like a terrible publisher, and terrible publishing is definitely NewsCorps' standard operating procedure. Well that's lovely, but I definitely appreciate the work of DreamPrimer, the dev team who actually coded the game who (I'm assuming due to MakingFun) isn't even allowed to show their identity online? There are some minor issues with the game, like how DoTs and disables can be placed on you, but there is no real visual indicator; just have to figure out what can stun/burn you, and make sure you either dodge it consistently or have enough life-on-hit. On the other hand, can you really deny the lure of Havoc Pants?  It's a game that has a great touchscreen interface for playing ARPGs on your phone. It's super simplistic. I really don't think it's exaggerating to say the game is Greater Rifting distilled. It's honestly astounding that Blizzard isn't suing them into the ground, especially with the model for Mogram. It really sucks that lovely people are making money off the sale of the game; hopefully the devs themselves are decent people, since they definitely made a nifty game, if not mindless.
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I went from punching and exploding people on my monk to throwing down bells and it is hilarious seeing mobs die in one hit on GR 70+ rifts. So if anyone can help moving to Sunwuko set on a monk please do so. You can thank me later.
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Mind over Matter posted:My new friend for both spinning and winning: Nice!!! (gently caress youuuuuuu)
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I found out the other day that someone I know quit playing Diablo III when Reaper of Souls dropped because he couldn't make money on the auction house anymore, so he went back to Diablo II where he still can. I should also mention that most people also really don't like him and he's a known scumbag.
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Katamari Democracy posted:I went from punching and exploding people on my monk to throwing down bells and it is hilarious seeing mobs die in one hit on GR 70+ rifts. So if anyone can help moving to Sunwuko set on a monk please do so. You can thank me later. I actually started going Sunwuko last night, so so much better than EP-SSS. I don't know if something was just bugged with my setup, but it felt like my U6 bonus was not working and struggling even at 60. Going even poor half-builded Sunwuko was immediately twice as effective at least. The only problem is I cannot get a god drat Tzo Krin to save my life and easily spent 5k shards and mostly get yellow helms . I have everything else for the most part (and a few ancients) with decent rolls. Now one of the things I'm struggling with is survivability, especially trying GR70 solo right now, I just instantly pop. I pretty much this build sans a second Unity which I understand is a big part of survivability, but still, drat.
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I'm up to GR 89 with SWK and yeah you do a ridiculous amount of damage but you die if someone even looks your way.
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Xaris posted:The only problem is I cannot get a god drat Tzo Krin to save my life and easily spent 5k shards and mostly get yellow helms. Have you tried upgrading rare spirit stones in the cube? That's what I usually end up doing on seasons I play Monk.
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bamhand posted:I'm up to GR 89 with SWK and yeah you do a ridiculous amount of damage but you die if someone even looks your way.
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Circle of Elements was too good. If every single top build for like 4 seasons across all 6 classes is based around one item... Unity is weird too but I understand it’s place in the game
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Sir this is Mickey's Kitchen, we don't have a drive-through
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bio347 posted:I think this is just... sort of what happens, now. Overall, damage got boosted waaaaaaaaay more than toughness, so your ability to do things is basically predicated on your ability to survive. Is it? I did GR90 with 0 deaths on the DH. Haven't tried with other classes though.
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bamhand posted:I'm up to GR 89 with SWK and yeah you do a ridiculous amount of damage but you die if someone even looks your way. I haven't looked at the build but Quinn send to think it was super tanky when he was doing this hardcore push.
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There are a lot of builds which if you check diablofans are extremely fragile designed for clearing 100+ or playing with a zdps in a group, but you can typically get a lot of defense by giving up a surprisingly small amount of damage, like the HOTA build has magefists in the cube when you can run aquila cuirass, builds with a HFA instead of an eye of elitch, swapping your worst DPS gem for Esoteric Alteration etc.
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Dum Cumpster posted:I haven't looked at the build but Quinn send to think it was super tanky when he was doing this hardcore push. Quinn’s playing Diablo 3 again?!? Holy Moley
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Builds that rely on Unity and/or Convention of Elements are both... bad Once again, you are very wrong and also owned.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:CoE is stupid and paying attention to a little element icon or worse, setting a loving timer for the right proc sucks rear end I pay attention to none of my active buffs ever, and that goes double for the coe switch. I honestly only remember I have it on when I look in my inventory or stand idle in town
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