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Let's just hope the rest of the game is better-written than that mission. And that they either A.get better VA or B. give me an option to turn it off.
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I still want that time machine to get HBS's "Battletech: The first expansion pack" to skip straight to Dragonfall, robots edition.Phrosphor posted:I think this is also going to introduce the very early main goal of the game - get some money. One of the articles indicated you start heavily in debt with a loan to pay off, and then you don't get paid from this mission. I get a feeling that Kintaro and Shadowhawk might not be hanging around if you can't pay them once this is resolved. I will be very curious to see if keeping half decent starter mechs up and running will be a "Reasonable" route for practical returns. Rather than a peak play wiki in lap route as the game "encourages" you to use Small mechs instead. But it's a pair of mediums we're talking about, rather than Heavies. So we'll probably get good leeway unless missions both appropriate in challenge and pay for your your bills to clear loans and maintain your toys at the same time are gated somehow. Be it through omission or "You can take the small fry profits mission, or the one tuned for heavy mech support that will crush you in repair bills even if you win from attrition." Section Z fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Judging by a few screens they showed and their comments, I'm pretty sure that mission is basically one of the tutorial/prologue missions. You're apparently still "slumming" it in a single Leopard at that point.* Yeah owning your own dropship is basically putting your mercs pretty high on the hire list.
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Especially in 3025, when owning your own lance and the means to transport it meant you could almost single-handedly knock over a Periphery state. Hey, that's exactly what we're doing in this game. What a coincidence!
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Phrosphor posted:I think this is also going to introduce the very early main goal of the game - get some money. One of the articles indicated you start heavily in debt with a loan to pay off, and then you don't get paid from this mission. I get a feeling that Kintaro and Shadowhawk might not be hanging around if you can't pay them once this is resolved. Yeah, the (player) Shadow Hawk having special weapons makes me think that even more. Basically get you a tutorial boss fight against a Shadow Hawk while you've got good mechs, and next time you fight a boss Hawk you're gonna have to do it with less.
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Phrosphor posted:Double post, but I wanted to share this. There is some really cool little effects in this build: This rules.
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https://battletech.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders Yeah, $60 is the tier you need to buy at to get Beta access.
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Q_res posted:https://battletech.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders And the beta is on-going now correct?
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Yes, beta is currently available. Worth noting beta is fun but limited in scope.
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Sky Shadowing posted:Yes, beta is currently available. How limited? Single player only?
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Yeah, it might take a few days for them to send your Steam Key to your Backerkit account because they have to do it manually and they're in heads-down crunch mode. If you do decide to buy into the Beta, here https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/9249 are the instructions for the opt-in multiplayer test. SkyShadowing's right though, it's pretty limited in scope. But it is fun, in small doses.
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Flaggy posted:How limited? Single player only? Multiplayer only
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That's not true at all. There's a singleplayer Skirmish mode as well as Opt-In multiplayer.
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By limited I mean it's 5 maps with a limited selection of Mechs, preset pilots, and strictly 4 Mechs vs 4 Mechs skirmish. People won't play single player skirmish much after full release. Like XCOM, the draw for this game will be the campaign, and to a lesser extent multiplayer.
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Q_res posted:That's not true at all. There's a singleplayer Skirmish mode as well as Opt-In multiplayer. Right, sorry, forgot about the skirmish since it was pretty limited and the AI very dumb when I tried it when it first came out
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The Skirmish mode is a fun, and a good way to get a handle on whether or not you enjoy the game's basic loops. Shame it's locked behind the $60 paywall, cause it'd make a good demo.
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Understandable, honestly. The SP Skirmish doesn't have much staying power, if you're seriously going to drop $60 on Beta access you'd better be planning on playing some Multi.
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Honestly I wouldn't buy into the beta at this point, and this is coming from someone who is really glad he got into the beta. I've got 20 hours in the beta, which is more than I get in complete play throughs of some AAA games. That said, If the game is really set to come out Q1 of 2018 (which if they're in crunch mode over the holidays looks very possible) that's just not much time to really get to enjoy it. The beta's been great for me to have something to talk about with other BT nerds and to scratch that itch when I just want to shoot mechs for an hour or so. It's in no way shape or form a complete game, and if I didn't have it already I'd just say wait until the actual product launch.
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I put 50 hours into the beta. The version has kind of been wrung dry though
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Yeah I’d wait. It’s fun and good but we also know it’s not representative of the final product due to all the dev time that’s happened since it came out. In that sense it’d be a very bad demo, but it’s a good beta. E: So if you get it, do so for MP and the understanding you’re more supporting HBS I guess? Psion fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Psion posted:Yeah I’d wait. It’s fun and good but we also know it’s not representative of the final product due to all the dev time that’s happened since it came out. In that sense it’d be a very bad demo, but a good beta. It's been really refreshing to see a dev do a beta release that's actually a loving beta and not some kind of pre-release, buggier version, access to the whole game.
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Cyrano4747 posted:It's been really refreshing to see a dev do a beta release that's actually a loving beta and not some kind of pre-release, buggier version, access to the whole game.
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John Charity Spring posted:This rules. Yeah I missed that on the first viewing. The visuals are really solid and I am eagerly anticipating a lot of gorgeous stompy robot action. Cyrano4747 posted:It's been really refreshing to see a dev do a beta release that's actually a loving beta and not some kind of pre-release, buggier version, access to the whole game. Obsidian's betas for Pillars of Eternity are the same. Super buggy vertical slice of a side area to help the developer tune system mechanics and smooth out rough patches in gameplay. Harebrained, Obsidian, and CDPR are basically the triumvirate keeping RPG's alive for me at this point.
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although really I'd support everyone buying the beta if it had the King Crab finished! JUST SAYING, ISILDUR...  (I know that's not your responsibility, just please add a mission with 4 king crabs on the edge of a cliff for the ultimate in lovely memes)
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Psion posted:although really I'd support everyone buying the beta if it had the King Crab finished! JUST SAYING, ISILDUR... Johnny Five Aces better make an appearance too
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Rygar201 posted:Johnny Five Aces better make an appearance too Jonny in a mech is already playable (in Brigador)
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Isildur clarifies that ejecting a pilot from their mech is now in the works after being off the table. I'm glad this got time to be added, it just felt so wrong not seeing the little ejection seats pop out at mech destruction.HBS_thratchen posted:it was off the table, but the way pilot injury and death works made it clear to me that we had to have manual ejection. Like, I suspected the game would suffer badly if we didn't include it. So we made room in the schedule for it! EDIT: HBS Mod CmdrDunsail confirms KS Backers can still buy in to higher digital only tiers, like from from $50 Beta Backer to $85 Valhalla. Late backers can also upgrade from the pre-order to beta access. CmdrDunsail posted:Confirmation from TPTHBSB... (Thanks @HBS_Dagger!) I'm on the fence about upping to the Valhalla tier. Wish I knew more about how it could be earned post-launch. Amechwarrior fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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Amechwarrior posted:Isildur clarifies that ejecting a pilot from their mech is now in the works after being off the table. I'm glad this got time to be added, it just felt so wrong not seeing the little ejection seats pop out at mech destruction. speaking of which Psion posted:although really I'd support everyone buying the beta if it had the King Crab finished! JUST SAYING, ISILDUR... i guess, since I'm writing all the remaining procedural content, there's nothing that stops me from putting stupid memes everywhere, is there? well now Sky Shadowing posted:To be fair I'm not going to expect a bunch of idiot miners to be smart about their betrayal. Dreadwroth posted:Yeah owning your own dropship is basically putting your mercs pretty high on the hire list. Also the rarity thing? It's not really used for 'Mechs at all. We are using it to mark specialized manufacturer-specific weapons, though. edit: meant to mention, you only have a Kintaro in that mission for the press stuff. I swapped out your Commando for a Kintaro to make sure nobody from the press would, like, lose the mission while getting a demo. Your 'real' starting lance is panther, commando, blackjack, shadowhawk. isildur fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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That explains a lot. I thought that was a heavy lance flor that mission.
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isildur posted:i guess, since I'm writing all the remaining procedural content, there's nothing that stops me from putting stupid memes everywhere, is there? well now Don't forget to comment in 'The Fraction Jackson Rule' somewhere in the code, without any further explanation.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Nevermind just owning a Leopard probably makes you above average as far as no-name merc outfits go. Leopards are obscenely expensive to operate. They can't carry enough cargo to cover their operating costs, so they're basically relegated to actual nation-states or morons who can't afford to fix them if something breaks. 
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Just like Free Traders in Traveller huh? "We made it so you can't just stay in the black doing boring fedex work to force you to go on adventures" Well, that explains why Sumire is pissed.
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On the other hand, Hurting People and Breaking Things does tend to pay pretty well, and it's a seller's market in the Inner Sphere.
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isildur posted:i guess, since I'm writing all the remaining procedural content, there's nothing that stops me from putting stupid memes everywhere, is there? well now excellentttttttttt
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As long as it's better-written than that mission, I don't think anyone would complain.
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isildur posted:i guess, since I'm writing all the remaining procedural content, there's nothing that stops me from putting stupid memes everywhere, is there? well now You should really get in the goon discord for this game, think the link the OP still works. We just had a convo about a modded event based off "Do you want to get ants?" that ends with your medics over-stressed from treating hyper-ant wounds, MW with overall lower morale from fighting 0g trained ants and noble mechwarriors noting the ships cleanliness has gotten better from the medics not leaving crumbs(can't take breaks) and ants eating everything they can find, up to and including people. This then sprung forth replacing Kamea w/ Mallory Archer and possibilities for a Archer based portrait swap.
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Captain Foo posted:Jonny in a mech is already playable (in Brigador) isildur posted:edit: meant to mention, you only have a Kintaro in that mission for the press stuff. I swapped out your Commando for a Kintaro to make sure nobody from the press would, like, lose the mission while getting a demo. Your 'real' starting lance is panther, commando, blackjack, shadowhawk.
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"Have you encountered the mercenary gang hanging out in the bar at the edge of town? I tell you, those goons are up to something awful!"
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Alchenar posted:"Have you encountered the mercenary gang hanging out in the bar at the edge of town? I tell you, those goons are up to something awful!" If you walk up to them they just squawk at you a bunch.
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