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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

axeil posted:

Okay I figured out the scenarios for Dallas and Washington to win the division. They're fairly simple to state but rather hard to actually pull off.

Washington

Win out AND Philly lose out AND Dallas lose 1 of (LAC, @NYG, @OAK, SEA)

Final Standings would have Washington at 10-6 with Philly at 9-7 and Dallas at 9-7 or worse.

Washington is eliminated with any PHI win or WAS loss.

Dallas

Win out AND:

-Philly lose @NYG and lose 2 of (CHI, @LA, @SEA)
OR
-Philly lose 4 of (CHI, @LA, @SEA, @NYG, OAK)

In the first version Dallas wins the division at 11-5 due to a 5-1 division record vs Philly's 4-2. In the second Dallas is 11-5 and Philly is 10-6.

Dallas is eliminated with any 3 of {PHI win, DAL loss} (i.e. they cannot be eliminated next week). This means there's another scenario here where Dallas goes 5-1 or 4-2 down the stretch but I only put the win out one here for simplicity.

Okay, so what about the Giahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Selachian posted:

Okay, so what about the Giahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Eliminated with the Eagles win. Worst possible Philly record is 9-7. Best possible Giants record is 8-8.

Farchanter posted:

So if everything goes right, the Eagles could clinch next Thursday?

No. The Eagles cannot clinch until Week 13. They need 3 of {Eagles Wins, Cowboys Losses} to do so.

Ham Stinkie
Oct 21, 2017
This win is even better now that I know the Eagles poo poo on Jerry's special night:

https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/932444928306745345

https://twitter.com/Bo_Wulf/status/932444947466407940

https://twitter.com/dallascowboys/status/932447731024584705

Farchanter
Jun 15, 2008

axeil posted:


No. The Eagles cannot clinch until Week 13. They need 3 of {Eagles Wins, Cowboys Losses} to do so.

Right, that's what I mean. If the Chargers and Eagles win this week, then they would clinch with a Washington win next Thursday?

grah
Jul 26, 2007
brainsss

Farchanter posted:

Right, that's what I mean. If the Chargers and Eagles win this week, then they would clinch with a Washington win next Thursday?

Yes, the Cowboys' elimination number is 3. So if they lose to the Chargers on Thanksgiving, Philly beats the Bears on Sunday, and the Cowboys lose again to the Redskins next Thursday, that is the earliest the Eagles could possibly clinch the division. At that point the Eagles would be 10 - 1, the Redskins either 5 - 7 or 6 - 6 and down the head to head tiebreaker, and the Cowboys 5 - 7.

Realistically, the Eagles don't need to worry about wacky scenarios to clinch the division. They should be focused on taking care of business week to week, so as not to give ground to the Vikings, Rams, or Saints in search of home field advantage. A badly timed loss or two could go as far as costing them the bye, and that would be a big disappointment right now.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

Everything about Philadelphia sports is the best this year

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

harsh, but true

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

paternity suitor posted:

Everything about Philadelphia sports is the best this year

the best reason to become a professional athlete is to frequently travel away from philadelphia

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015






I got up to can some cranberry sauce at the half, when it still looked like we might not pull it out. Was he smug? I hope he was smug, and I hope he cried himself to sleep that night.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Jerry jones is possibly the worst human being who ever lived.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

euphronius posted:

Jerry jones is possibly the worst human being who ever lived.

Donald Trump still draws breath.

Hell, George W. Bush still draws breath too.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
http://twitter.com/mattlombardophl/status/932476645579149312

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


Ronald Darby is good.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

a new study bible! posted:

Also, using the regular team logo in this is lazy.

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

blue squares posted:

the best reason to become a professional athlete is to frequently travel away from philadelphia

Actually you are wrong and Philly is good

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling
Can Doug come back and give a few guest lectures in Kansas

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Philly is great if you're not a suburban whitey with an existential dread of black people and you don't visit Suburban Station at night.

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

paternity suitor posted:

Actually you are wrong and Philly is good

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Philly is great if you're not a suburban whitey with an existential dread of black people and you don't visit Suburban Station at night.

Yeah Philly is a great city to live in. I'm so glad I moved in from the suburbs

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Just wanted to say it was nice we didn't get into horrible internet fights last night and had a nice civil GDT. Lord knows I've participated in a few of those trainwrecks on here.

We should try and keep it more positive all the time

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Just wanted to say it was nice we didn't get into horrible internet fights last night and had a nice civil GDT. Lord knows I've participated in a few of those trainwrecks on here.

We should try and keep it more positive all the time

I generally like pretty much all of the regular TFF posters, regardless of their team affinity.

This is my sports "safe space"

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


You all suck dicks

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Just wanted to say it was nice we didn't get into horrible internet fights last night and had a nice civil GDT. Lord knows I've participated in a few of those trainwrecks on here.

We should try and keep it more positive all the time

I enjoyed constantly empty quoting the "3 and out" post like 5 times in a row.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

HatfulOfHollow posted:

You all suck dicks

No they closed the Macy's down sadly

El Patron
Jul 9, 2011

Philly Philly
Fear Da Bears.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/932503779827691520

El Patron
Jul 9, 2011

Philly Philly
End kicking now.

https://twitter.com/RealGlenMacnow/status/932944741444014081

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Seriously what are the records for most successful 2pt conversions in a game and a season for an NFL team?

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Seriously what are the records for most successful 2pt conversions in a game and a season for an NFL team?

quote:

Two-Point Conversions

Most Successful Two-Point Conversions, Season, 8
Pittsburgh Steelers: 2015

Most Successful Two-Point Conversions, Single Team, Game, 4
St. Louis Rams vs. Atlanta Falcons, Oct 15, 2000

Most Successful Two-Point Conversions, Both Teams, Game, 5
Baltimore Ravens (3) vs New England Patriots (2), Oct 6, 1996
St. Louis Rams (4) vs. Atlanta Falcons (1), Oct 15, 2000

El Patron
Jul 9, 2011

Philly Philly
Marshall Faulk is the all time leader in 2 pt conversions with 7, Alshon Jeffery has 4 already.

I want Alshon to break this record before the season is out.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/two_pt_md_career.htm

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cool thanks. I couldn’t find the stats for some reason. Man the Eagles were only one off from tying the one game record and that season record is looking within reason.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Cool thanks. I couldn’t find the stats for some reason. Man the Eagles were only one off from tying the one game record and that season record is looking within reason.

Yeah, loving Zach Ertz.

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Cool thanks. I couldn’t find the stats for some reason. Man the Eagles were only one off from tying the one game record and that season record is looking within reason.

Linebacker kickoffs and 2 point conversions forever.

Get well Jake, we don't need ya

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
They should look into using Hill as a kickoff specialist. You would get one more coverage player on the field. As long as he's putting it into the end zone with decent hang time, why not?

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way
"gently caress it, let's just never punt and go for two every time we score" borne out into a season's worth of play sounds like something Jon Bois would make a video about

Edit: The Eagles are averaging 5.7 yards per play, and have faced 4th and 5 or less a total of 30 times. They've faced 4th and 6 or greater a total of 42 times.

Toaster Beef fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Nov 21, 2017

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

Will 2 point conversions be the NFLs version of the 3 pointer in the NBA, where it’s discovered there’s more value and it’s a more efficient play?

Then some team will get a ST dude who can kick far but not really well enough to be a FG kicker, and just forego FG and XP altogether?

Football Moneyball 2018 lets go Chip Kelly I know you hear me out there somewhere you crazy weirdo let’s do this!!

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

paternity suitor posted:

Will 2 point conversions be the NFLs version of the 3 pointer in the NBA, where it’s discovered there’s more value and it’s a more efficient play?

Then some team will get a ST dude who can kick far but not really well enough to be a FG kicker, and just forego FG and XP altogether?

Football Moneyball 2018 lets go Chip Kelly I know you hear me out there somewhere you crazy weirdo let’s do this!!

I hope so. I love going for 2 and going for it on 4th downs.

It's really weird how Chip talked a big game about that stuff but (even before Jake went down) Doug has been WAY more aggressive about it. He has analytic people upstairs talking in his headset.

I'm not sure Philadelphia fans are ready for Doug Pederson - NFL trailblazer and savant

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
I think Doug Peterson is a good coach for this team where the primary goal is to develop a young QB who is super dedicated and already mature beyond his years. It's a situation where the defense is completely taken care of by a former head coach, and player personnel is completely handled by the GM and his team. He's got limited responsibilities and is backed up by a strong supporting cast in Reich and DiFilippo.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
I'm excited for the total collapse next year after all the workhorse coordinators get poached

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NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Asproigerosis posted:

I'm excited for the total collapse next year after all the workhorse coordinators get poached

I agree that this is a potentially serious issue. But it was also a problem with the Andy Reid era and these Eagles have seemed attentive to identifying and correcting mistakes from the first go-round.

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