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comedyblissoption posted:you can call it whatever ideological label you want. it's completely immaterial to what i'm talking about. my point that they are undemocratic dictatorships still stands. you are disingenuously conflating the idea of democratically run businesses with autocratic dictatorships. What happens if some businesses and employees within them don't want to be 'democratically run'? If evil Globomegacop pays 10% more than nice communal huggy co-op, then simple economics should indicate that the former is going to be better off. That's going to be far more attractive to many people than some nebulous idea of employee control. If your answer is 'we'll make a law!', then you'll need a state powerful enough to enforce the effective removal of property rights and we all know how that one ends. Your new, now heavily-regulated economy also still has to compete with other countries that don't do this.
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Jose posted:This isn't very funny The thread does this during lulls between lols.
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Jose posted:This isn't very funny let em have it imo. They can take it to D&D
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internet communists are very funny
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:31 |
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new phone who dis posted:The thread does this during lulls between lols.
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:31 |
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I'm legit concerned for peter daou's mental health https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/932603750686093312 https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/932412644752900097
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:32 |
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Oops, he did it again! https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-says-al-franken-inappropriately-touched-her-in-2010/ar-BBFlVOU
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:32 |
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Good that they worked this gem in for perspective: Minnesota statutes state that "intentional touching of the clothing covering the immediate area of the buttocks" is not considered criminal sexual conduct.
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there are surely some funny takes from liberals on twitter about franken
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Beer Hall Putz posted:What happens if some businesses and employees within them don't want to be 'democratically run'? If evil Globomegacop pays 10% more than nice communal huggy co-op, then simple economics should indicate that the former is going to be better off. That's going to be far more attractive to many people than some nebulous idea of employee control. The appeal of such an institution is that workers become their own boss. Workers should only voluntarily enter into this arrangement. A great example is Jeremy Corbyn's proposal for the Right of First Refusal. If a corporation wants to sell or move their workplace out of the country, the workers themselves should be able to buy the workplace from the capitalist. The government or a private bank can lend them the money. In the US, capitalists are so hostile to the idea that they won't even sell a workplace to the workers even if they themselves have the capital. Massachusetts recently had an example of offshoring where the union wanted to buy the workplace since they were leaving and the capitalist refused on ideological grounds. comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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socialism failed, its time to move on
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:40 |
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comedyblissoption posted:Worker coops don't require a state mandate that all businesses are ran as worker coops. You can have the traditional corporation and worker coops in the same economy. The government can enact policies to encourage a worker coop sector of the economy. Both good examples. Maybe you can make a thread to discuss?
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:40 |
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ok I'll stop derailing
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:41 |
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new phone who dis posted:Let's just say it's not his only "out of the box" idea. Every day after work he cruises the entire base and checks the payphones for change. It takes him over an hour. these still exist and people still use them?
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:41 |
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Only thing that comes to mind
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World War Mammories posted:after the whole tom perez debacle a couple months back, tbh it would be really nice if obama hosed off back to billionaire orgy island forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hne-hG4raHI
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comedyblissoption posted:ok I'll stop derailing I legit like the subject though, I was not kidding about the separate thread edit: made it myself https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3841264 OXBALLS DOT COM has issued a correction as of 21:46 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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al franken has a second sexual assault accuser https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-says-al-franken-inappropriately-touched-her-in-2010/ar-BBFlVOU edit: beaten
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:43 |
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comedyblissoption posted:large corporations are essentially a form of government. this form of government is autocratic. in practice, the corporation is a tyranny and not a benevolent dictatorship. World War Mammories posted:but historical evidence and simple logic demonstrates that if you let capitalists run free in such a system, without anything keeping them in check, they're gonna do their damnedest to rig the game in their favor, because that will help them make more money. the profit motive explicitly contradicts your stated goals of governance. you keep approaching good ideas and I'm pretty sure we broadly agree but then you trail off when the obvious conclusion of "these ideas are incompatible with capitalism" gets hard to ignore Nut to Butt has issued a correction as of 21:46 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Jose posted:This isn't very funny Yeah what's this derail can we go back to laughing at the Dems imploding as a political party instead of arguing about communism with the same people in yet another thread? esp since ya'll still don't know what you're talking about lmao read a book and stop getting your opinions from the neoliberal media. Here's a lol: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/us/jones-alabama-democrats.html quote:Mr. Moore, long a controversial and polarizing figure, stands accused of molesting or making unwanted advances toward numerous young women and girls, one as young as 14, when he was in his 30s. That has rendered him radioactive for national Republicans and led The Birmingham News to bellow on Sunday’s front page: “Stand for Decency, Reject Roy Moore.” They can't even campaign against a literal pedophile lmao COMRADES has issued a correction as of 21:50 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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I could never figure out why I don't like this guy despite agreeing with him and it just clicked that the way he looks and the smug looks and grins he gives the camera remind me of rachel maddow
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Blue Train posted:I could never figure out why I don't like this guy despite agreeing with him and it just clicked that the way he looks and the smug looks and grins he gives the camera remind me of rachel maddow Yeah he's high on the smarm but he's gotten a lot more tolerable now that he's pissed off and angry all the time.
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comedyblissoption posted:al franken has a second sexual assault accuser it's been incredible to watch democrats on twitter comb over this poo poo. desperately searching for the Bad Pixels that prove the photo franken admitted to is actually a fabrication and so on. it's some pizzagate poo poo
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 21:56 |
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Bernie would have won.
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 22:05 |
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new phone who dis posted:Turning the reins over to the workers is a loving terrible idea and it's how you get things like the purges in Cambodia where everyone who isn't a peasant is murdered. Keep suckin that 1%er dick
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kickascii posted:This thread will end up the same as the trumps fine and liberal tears threads. You can’t have a bunch of happy people enjoying themselves and making fun of political topics like democrats. Miserable people will spam it and scream to mods until it gets closed. some say they want us all dead. its funny because its true
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Over There posted:Barack had a completely "how do you do, fellow kids" today. Why do you say that?
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Here is a vintage lol to get this thread back on the track. A one-way ticket to democrat laffs if you will: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco
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Call Your Grandma posted:Here is a vintage lol to get this thread back on the track. A one-way ticket to democrat laffs if you will:
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Call Your Grandma posted:Here is a vintage lol to get this thread back on the track. A one-way ticket to democrat laffs if you will: I've heard about this since I was a kid but I never heard it with my two ears. Thats a lol
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# ? Nov 20, 2017 22:46 |
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Hilldawg fantasizing about her reign over Earth 2... https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/932285597971922944/video/1 Editor: "I fear we have to end it here..." Hilldawg: "You want one more? I'll be short- one more. Because I like being on Earth 2!"
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World War Mammories posted:it's been incredible to watch democrats on twitter comb over this poo poo. desperately searching for the Bad Pixels that prove the photo franken admitted to is actually a fabrication and so on. it's some pizzagate poo poo I said this in the franken thread and got hit with “but don’t you think this is a bit odd????!?” I can lol at the blatant hypocrisy but I get a bit sad at how quickly and easily people are willing to throw someone under the bus.
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Nut to Butt posted:Hilldawg fantasizing about her reign over Earth 2...
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Blue Train posted:I could never figure out why I don't like this guy despite agreeing with him and it just clicked that the way he looks and the smug looks and grins he gives the camera remind me of rachel maddow Aw that's too bad, I love when Jimmy mugs at the camera.
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Nut to Butt posted:Hilldawg fantasizing about her reign over Earth 2... What a disgusting video.
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she's going to run again
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she's going to run again
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SHES GOING TO RUN AGAIN
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she's going to run again
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