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Serf
May 5, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I dunno if Styx is a Nazi nazi, but he's an occultist reactionary who likes to put curses on people and popularized Kek meme magic. He's a self-described libertarian, but has also been on Richard Spencer's podcast.

His rationalwiki entry does a pretty good rundown of his basic beliefs. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Styxhexenhammer666

The short of it is that Styx is a bit more complicated than typical reactionaries, but he draws his pool of fans from that alt-lite alt-right well all the same. I don't keep referring to him as a he to intentionally misgender him, but because I'm not sure if he's actually trans until he confirms it himself. It's more than likely part of a strategy of pursuing trans women.

if this person thinks zyklon b was just a harmless delousing agent why don't they open some up in their room and see what happens

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Defending Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's assassination takes a special kind of rational evil.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I dunno if Styx is a Nazi nazi, but he's an occultist reactionary who likes to put curses on people and popularized Kek meme magic. He's a self-described libertarian, but has also been on Richard Spencer's podcast.

His rationalwiki entry does a pretty good rundown of his basic beliefs. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Styxhexenhammer666

The short of it is that Styx is a bit more complicated than typical reactionaries, but he draws his pool of fans from that alt-lite alt-right well all the same. I don't keep referring to him as a he to intentionally misgender him, but because I'm not sure if he's actually trans until he confirms it himself. It's more than likely part of a strategy of pursuing trans women.

Sounds like he's a renegade who had it made

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

He was doomed when his parents named him Tarl.

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

I for one welcome Nazis with a 40% attempted suicide rate.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

He was doomed when his parents named him Tarl.

His parents must've been big fans of the Gor book series, which would make for an... interesting childhood.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

aware of dog posted:

His parents must've been big fans of the Gor book series, which would make for an... interesting childhood.

It'd make perfect sense if you think about it.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

good lord! We’re fighting Cabot (Cabot? Cabot! Caaaaaabooot! Cabot?)?

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Serf posted:

isn't being both a nazi and trans sorta being a traitor to your people? as i recall, the nazis didn't exactly look kindly on people who didn't conform

In this specific case, yes: Styx is clearly going for a "queer", "rebel" aesthetic-and-presumably-identity. In general, no: being trans just as often means conforming very closely to social expectations of gender

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side

Kilmers Elbow posted:

I for one welcome Nazis with a 40% attempted suicide rate.

On a related note I'm legit surprised Baked Alaska is still with us

Serf
May 5, 2011


hackbunny posted:

In this specific case, yes: Styx is clearly going for a "queer", "rebel" aesthetic-and-presumably-identity. In general, no: being trans just as often means conforming very closely to social expectations of gender

somehow i don't think nazis have the same definition of "conforming very closely to social expectations of gender" as some other people might when it comes to trans people

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Styx is out as a crossdresser and keeps being alt-right, which means outing them as such isn't something they haven't already done to themselves. If it was a secret then bad form, but this just seems to be obliviousness on their part.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av
https://twitter.com/styx666official/status/890364805999206401

Serf posted:

somehow i don't think nazis have the same definition of "conforming very closely to social expectations of gender" as some other people might when it comes to trans people

Eh I can totally see a bottle blonde transwoman becoming a darling of the right and taking equal parts praise for being feminine(/submissive/anti-feminist) and abuse for being trans - that she'll take "gracefully" in part to prove that she's un-PC and believes in free speech, and in part because it's par for the course of being an attractive woman in conservative circles

Serf
May 5, 2011


hackbunny posted:

https://twitter.com/styx666official/status/890364805999206401


Eh I can totally see a bottle blonde transwoman becoming a darling of the right and taking equal parts praise for being feminine(/submissive/anti-feminist) and abuse for being trans - that she'll take "gracefully" in part to prove that she's un-PC and believes in free speech, and in part because it's par for the course of being an attractive woman in conservative circles

that's a tight rope to walk for what i presume is a grift. because if that person's side ever gains power, then they end up getting exterminated

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
None of them ever think about it that way because they are all new age mystic losers who spend all their time reading and commenting on the mystical new age right wing losers of the past

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
A dude what honestly thinks of himself as some sort of wizard is not going to think seriously about literally anything that's not their weird fashy self-help mantra

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


Wait, someone mentioned loomer a while back?

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I dunno if Styx is a Nazi nazi, but he's an occultist reactionary who likes to put curses on people and popularized Kek meme magic. He's a self-described libertarian, but has also been on Richard Spencer's podcast.


He sounds like he is the modern version of a late 90's-early 00's radicalized Angelkin. These were a distinct subset of the early Otherkin community who were notorious for dressing like they were living in The Matrix- as well as being endless fountains of psudeo-intellectual gibberish that mixed bad arcaheology (Graham Hancock, the Flem-Ath's) with sympathetic magic.

Source: I'm a transwoman who was a radicalized Angelkin in the early 00's. I obsessively wore black overcoats and contributed a depressing amount of pseudo-intellectual gibberish that eventually became cannon in the Otherkin community

Prester Jane has issued a correction as of 16:55 on Nov 21, 2017

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sounds like a entertaining and affirmative lifestyle

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

A dude what honestly thinks of himself as some sort of wizard is not going to think seriously about literally anything that's not their weird fashy self-help mantra

Styx has a weirdly psychological take on magic. He doesn't believe it's literally supernatural, but that the knowledge you've been cursed by somebody gets into your head and can play on your own superstitions or bug the Hell out of you.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Thread title is really paying off right now.

I think at the point where you consider yourself some kind of literal nazi wizard in 2017 is where logic is no longer a factor in play.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Styx has a weirdly psychological take on magic. He doesn't believe it's literally supernatural, but that the knowledge you've been cursed by somebody gets into your head and can play on your own superstitions or bug the Hell out of you.

Ain't how they all view it?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Prester Jane posted:

He sounds like he is the modern version of a late 90's-early 00's radicalized Angelkin. These were a distinct subset of the early Otherkin community who were notorious for dressing like they were living in The Matrix- as well as being endless fountains of psudeo-intellectual gibberish that mixed bad arcaheology (Graham Hancock, the Flem-Ath's) with sympathetic magic.

Source: I'm a transwoman who was a radicalized Angelkin in the early 00's. I obsessively wore black overcoats and contributed a depressing amount of pseudo-intellectual gibberish that eventually became cannon in the Otherkin community

You've lived an interesting loving life, PJ.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Its almost as if the alt-right itself is a huge circlejerk of virtue signalling, projection, and pre-compromised morals

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Tias posted:

Styx is out as a crossdresser and keeps being alt-right, which means outing them as such isn't something they haven't already done to themselves. If it was a secret then bad form, but this just seems to be obliviousness on their part.

This strikes me as being on the same level as anti-GLBT pastors and politicians getting caught having sex with a male sex worker or having an affair with another man.

On one side, I understand that outing someone is a wrong, it is no one's right but theirs to tell that to the world, or not tell that to the world, as they see fit.

On the other hand, I believe that it is a greater wrong for that person to have that internal identity and to then do and say what the right does about GLBT people. It is an ongoing wrong as well, one which compounds over time as they continue to spew hate.

It also exposes an ongoing pattern of hypocrisy regarding the anti-GLBT right, which makes them less likely to influence the general public towards their hate, which is good thing.

As such, I would view it as a moral imperative to commit the lesser wrong and out them, rather than let them continue to publicly spread hate and intolerance via continued silence on their private life.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Nazis trying to adjust now that Twitter is (supposed to be) cracking down:

https://twitter.com/_YoungerZ__/status/931669527896707072

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Zeroisanumber posted:

You've lived an interesting loving life, PJ.

Untreated Schzioaffective disorder takes you to the kinds of places where these things happen, what can I say.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Styx sounds like those aesthete fash from the thirties, who incidentally also were big on occultism.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
Alt right nerds are so bad at infiltration. A few have went to a lefty discord I use and so far the only one who got past the first channel new members are stuck in until a mod approves them immediately started posting scat porn in the general channel for like 30 seconds before getting banned. The rest just immediately give themselves away as a fascist.

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Cerebral Bore posted:

Styx sounds like those aesthete fash from the thirties, who incidentally also were big on occultism.

Huge portions of my Narrativist Frameowrk are based on my experiences in the Otherkin community during the 00's. (Narrativism is a theory that attempts to explain extremist behavior.) Occultists and racial supremacists are both considered to be recognizable variants of Narrativism that will often combine into a unified force if a sufficient portion of the population is subjected to a dramatic decrease in their standard of living within a generation in conjunction with irregular access to resources/opportunities for social advancement.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Nazis trying to adjust now that Twitter is (supposed to be) cracking down:

https://twitter.com/_YoungerZ__/status/931669527896707072

breitbart daily was maligning this morning that "right of center individuals are getting delisted by liberal twitter" so it must be rustling them pretty badly

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

zegermans posted:

breitbart daily was maligning this morning that "right of center individuals are getting delisted by liberal twitter" so it must be rustling them pretty badly

the idea that they could get banned from twitter based on off-site cookies in their browser is probably hella troubling to them because so many of them are used to abusing people by seeing some tweet linked on a hate forum and then immediately dogpiling the victim

twitter will probably just use it to ban leftists though

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

pat Buchanan is the center now

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

SunAndSpring posted:

Alt right nerds are so bad at infiltration. A few have went to a lefty discord I use and so far the only one who got past the first channel new members are stuck in until a mod approves them immediately started posting scat porn in the general channel for like 30 seconds before getting banned. The rest just immediately give themselves away as a fascist.
It's because they have zero interest in understanding how their ideological opponents actually think, and thus cannot manage to pass as leftists for more than a sentence or two.

Meanwhile I've been successfully passing as a #tradwife on Nazi Twitter for months now and it's so easy it's ridiculous. Act dumb and use a pretty blonde avatar and no one looks at you twice.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

SpaceGoku posted:

the idea that they could get banned from twitter based on off-site cookies in their browser is probably hella troubling to them because so many of them are used to abusing people by seeing some tweet linked on a hate forum and then immediately dogpiling the victim

twitter will probably just use it to ban leftists though
i haven't paid attention to this cookies thing because i look at a lot of alt-right sites. i figured the idea of banning people for off-site activity was more reason to get richard spencer and so on booted because they're good at just riding the line of the TOS.

pookel posted:

Meanwhile I've been successfully passing as a #tradwife on Nazi Twitter for months now and it's so easy it's ridiculous. Act dumb and use a pretty blonde avatar and no one looks at you twice.
hahahaha that makes two

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i haven't paid attention to this cookies thing because i look at a lot of alt-right sites. i figured the idea of banning people for off-site activity was more reason to get richard spencer and so on booted because they're good at just riding the line of the TOS.


yeah idk what twitter actually plans on doing, it's probably just an escape clause for cases of "well this guy is obviously toxic but we don't have a specific rule against him"

but the idea of getting banned because you got a no-no cookie is probably stressful to these dudes because they all visit the same dumpster sites

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

zegermans posted:

Sounds like he's a renegade who had it made

:golfclap:

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

hahahaha that makes two
It was the only Nazi-adjacent group I could stomach pretending to be, since it's mostly about baking & pictures of cute white kids. PM me and I'll send you my fake account name!

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound
i would just like to say to everyone here hail satan and punch nazis

lucifer bless

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Kilmers Elbow posted:

I for one welcome Nazis with a 40% attempted suicide rate.

They're just copying their idol in that respect.


Inescapable Duck posted:

Thread title is really paying off right now.

I think at the point where you consider yourself some kind of literal nazi wizard in 2017 is where logic is no longer a factor in play.

Tbf many of the original Nazis considered themselves wizards

First as a tragedy then as a farce

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