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GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

CelticPredator posted:

Why did Stacker Pentacost abandon his son for a little Japanese girl?

The mother always gets custody.

Anyway, I allowed myself to love the first movie...

And so far I am really hating the look of the new movie trailers. Instead of looking like ginormous, building sized robots lumbering around... they move like power rangers. Sigh.

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Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

CelticPredator posted:

Why did Stacker Pentacost abandon his son for a little Japanese girl?

He's a goon.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Milky Moor posted:

"At the start of the film, he [Boyega's character] is an absolute crook. There are rogue Jaegers where people have collected spare parts and made their own machines. Jake is stealing from people and selling Jaeger parts."

This is just ludicrous enough to interest me.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pacific Rim Build Fighters sounds like absolutely my jam

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






GORDON posted:

The mother always gets custody.

Anyway, I allowed myself to love the first movie...

And so far I am really hating the look of the new movie trailers. Instead of looking like ginormous, building sized robots lumbering around... they move like power rangers. Sigh.

I saw the trailer before Justice League and compared to the first one it did a pretty bad job of selling the incredible mass and size of these things. The lumbering movement, dynamic camera angles and deep surface detail did a lot of work in that regard. Not a lot of that on display this time around.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Even the fastest one in PR1 (Striker Eureka) was slower than almost everything shown in the trailer and had some good scenes of it building momentum. Also that giant merged Kaiju reminds me of the Kraken from that stupid Titan movie and that’s not something you want to remind me about.

Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Nov 22, 2017

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Build-a-jaeger work shop.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Taintrunner posted:

Pacific Rim Build Fighters sounds like absolutely my jam

Can I talk to you about Real Steel?

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

Toshimo posted:

Can I talk to you about Real Steel?

That movie is surprisingly good and effective.

Wendell
May 11, 2003

Real Steel is the bomb.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Real Steel got panned by most people so when I saw it I really wasn't expecting anything. What I saw was a nicely put together movie which was surprisingly fun and touching. Legit cool movie.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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One thing I'm disappointed about so far is that they haven't hyped up the Jagers and pilots like they did in the first film. The first film had stuff like a badass Russian married couple piloting a very distinctive Jager. A trio of Chinese triplets piloting a three armed Jager.

This film has 5 Jagers but the only pilots we really know anything about is Pentecost Jr and a new Mako analogue.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Panfilo posted:

One thing I'm disappointed about so far is that they haven't hyped up the Jagers and pilots like they did in the first film. The first film had stuff like a badass Russian married couple piloting a very distinctive Jager. A trio of Chinese triplets piloting a three armed Jager.

This film has 5 Jagers but the only pilots we really know anything about is Pentecost Jr and a new Mako analogue.

I've seen the trailer 2-3 times, and other than GYPSY DANGER v2.0, I can't really remember anything about the others. PR1 Jaegers were instantly memorable.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


The battle of Tokyo bay still pisses me off super hard. Cherno and that other jaeger deserved better.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 40 hours!

AlternateAccount posted:

I've seen the trailer 2-3 times, and other than GYPSY DANGER v2.0, I can't really remember anything about the others. PR1 Jaegers were instantly memorable.
One of them is bulky and has a wrecking ball and hip mounted chain guns. Another one has two swords that merge into a big claymore. Then another one has two whips instead of swords. Perhaps the explanation is gonna be that Gypsy Danger's design is the most reliable, so they use the general chassis design with their own unique touches.


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

The battle of Tokyo bay still pisses me off super hard. Cherno and that other jaeger deserved better.
Crimson Typhoon. Unfortunately this is an example of the 'Worf Effect'. The Kaiju wouldn't seem as much of a threat if they didn't defeat any Jagers on screen, so they had to kill off two of them just to show how dangerous Leatherback and Otachi were.

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

Panfilo posted:

Crimson Typhoon. Unfortunately this is an example of the 'Worf Effect'. The Kaiju wouldn't seem as much of a threat if they didn't defeat any Jagers on screen, so they had to kill off two of them just to show how dangerous Leatherback and Otachi were.
What that scene was actually intended to showcase wasn't how badass Otachi and Leatherback were, but how well-equipped they were to take on the Jaegers they came up against, due to what's his face's mind meld with the Kaiju. To this point, Crimson Typhoon and Cherno Alpha had to be kinda clowned to achieve that statement, and that was achieved by the Kaijus attacking what they now knew to be weak points - Crimson's head, Cherno's reactor, Stryker's all digital build, etc.

Habibi fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 23, 2017

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
And to think in the thread we were all expecting Striker to get chumped to establish the threat, since it was the most advanced and powerful of the lot.

Still mad that the only really interesting looking mechs were there as cannon fodder. Gypsy and Striker were visually boring as battle mechs go.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Panfilo posted:

One thing I'm disappointed about so far is that they haven't hyped up the Jagers and pilots like they did in the first film.

My theory on this is Jaeger pilots were initially seen as war heroes on a near-mythic scale because after the initial devastating Kaiju attacks humanity was fighting back and winning for the first time. Now you have no Kaiju threat but governments and/or corporations hyping the Jaegers instead of the pilots. Whereas the first film celebrated the strength of the individual and their connections to one another, it seems this film begins at least with how that spirit is lost to self-interested authority.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
That and a lot of people were disappointed with the first movie how the Jaegers with the most interesting designs got Worfed before they could do anything interesting, so they might be playing their cards closer to their chest this time.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

My theory on this is Jaeger pilots were initially seen as war heroes on a near-mythic scale because after the initial devastating Kaiju attacks humanity was fighting back and winning for the first time. Now you have no Kaiju threat but governments and/or corporations hyping the Jaegers instead of the pilots. Whereas the first film celebrated the strength of the individual and their connections to one another, it seems this film begins at least with how that spirit is lost to self-interested authority.

This is what the first movie's intro mentions, that Jager pilots became celebrities. The backstory timeline actually has Jagers have a pretty good run; it's like 6 or 8 years into the war before they start losing Jagers, but once that happens it's obvious they won't be able to keep up with losses. That's not even getting into the challenge of drift compatibility, where they had to screen millions of applicants to find drift compatible pairs.

I wouldn't be surprised if the drift technologies got explored further after the war. They make it look like we could always hold giant robots, it just never occurred to us to build them until the Kaiju arrived. However the technology to drift was the real innovation, and the one with a lot of practical applications.

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

Cythereal posted:

And to think in the thread we were all expecting Striker to get chumped to establish the threat, since it was the most advanced and powerful of the lot.
But it did, thoroughly - it just got saved by the plot.

quote:

Still mad that the only really interesting looking mechs were there as cannon fodder. Gypsy and Striker were visually boring as battle mechs go.

Agree on Stryker, but despite the somewhat generic humanoid appearance, I dug the poo poo out of Gipsy's design details. All the moving parts, the exposed machinery, the swagger... Don't get me wrong - there's a reason I own a Cherno Alpha figurine, and I would have loved to see both it and Typhoon get more non-death-scene screen time, but I also feel like they were also fairly gimmicky.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
There was kind of a theme that while the other Jaegers were cool they were overspecialised with specific attacks and techniques that got beaten by Kaiju made to counter them, while Gypsy Danger was more generally and used a broad variety of weapons and tactics, melee and ranged, improvised weapons and so on. Another reason why the sequel's Jaegers seem based on Gypsy's frame, since it proved to be the most versatile.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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They had also mentioned in the back story that when the Kaiju first arrived they were desperate to find an alternate solution which would explain the unconventional early designs.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Was reading a NYT article and was reminded of CineD. :v:


quote:

And he refers to the 2013 science-fiction movie “Pacific Rim,” in which society is attacked by massive monsters that emerge from beneath the Pacific Ocean.

“So the people, they don’t ask the monsters to stop,” he says. “They build a giant robot to try to stop them. And that’s essentially what fascism is. It’s like our version of centrally coming together to try to stop another already centralized force.”
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/us/ohio-hovater-white-nationalist.html?referer=https://t.co/0gJuaCpd0v?amp=1

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






The real fascism was the enemies we made along the way

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Who could have guessed?

ufarn
May 30, 2009
Over-under for whether he has an anime avatar on Twitter?

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

The Nazis have a point, you fascists could learn a thing or two from.

:thunk:

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

MariusLecter posted:

i'm a big poopy moron who smells my own farts

:thunk:

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Cythereal posted:

And to think in the thread we were all expecting Striker to get chumped to establish the threat, since it was the most advanced and powerful of the lot.

Still mad that the only really interesting looking mechs were there as cannon fodder. Gypsy and Striker were visually boring as battle mechs go.
Striker was kinda generic, cool, but generic. But they nailed the "WW2 bomber in mecha form" thing they where going for with Gypsy Danger imo.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
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Can't post for 40 hours!
Originally strikers design was going to be used for Gypsy Danger but they decided it was too aggressive. I agree gypsy dangers design is good, his head reminds me of a motorcycle helmet and his body shape suggests they went for an all-around design vs some specific gimmick.

Have we even gotten the names of the other Jagers? That's the important part. Hope they stick to the two word pattern.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Panfilo posted:

Have we even gotten the names of the other Jagers? That's the important part. Hope they stick to the two word pattern.

First page:

Gypsy Avenger (Gypsy Danger 2.0)
Titan Redeemer (flail/morning star thing)
Guardian Bravo (whips)
Saber Athena (girl, twin swords)
Bracer Phoenix (guns)

Zebulon
Aug 20, 2005

Oh god why does it burn?!

Cythereal posted:

First page:

Gypsy Avenger (Gypsy Danger 2.0)
Titan Redeemer (flail/morning star thing)
Guardian Bravo (whips)
Saber Athena (girl, twin swords)
Bracer Phoenix (guns)

Also Obsidian Fury, the Black Gipsy Avenger repaint in the trailer.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

Zedd posted:

Striker was kinda generic, cool, but generic. But they nailed the "WW2 bomber in mecha form" thing they where going for with Gypsy Danger imo.

To me he always looked like a mechanised American football player.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






kanonvandekempen posted:

To me he always looked like a mechanised American football player.

That was exactly what del Toro was going for.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich


That's amazing. Why can't humans and the giant monsters purposefully built to wreck their poo poo just talk it out, maaaaan.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
A little ironic given the idea is unity of culture, nation and race against a threat easily analogous to climate change. I knew that the exclusion of class always fucks this up. (I think? american dude is an underpaid worker in terrible conditions on a pointless border wall...)

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Labes for days posted:

That's amazing. Why can't humans and the giant monsters purposefully built to wreck their poo poo just talk it out, maaaaan.

Characters successfully talk to the giant monsters in the movie Pacific Rim, which you presumably watched.

Inescapable Duck posted:

A little ironic given the idea is unity of culture, nation and race against a threat easily analogous to climate change.

It’s easily analogous to climate change except for the part where the threat is two distinct humanoid species that are alive and you can talk to them.

:phoneb::phoneline::iiaca:

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
In the first movie it was all about subsuming yourself into a place of total empathic synchronicity with your partner, in turn subsuming yourselves into the collective of the jaeger squadron; this movie looks to be all about the totality and imminence of John Boyega

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Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Characters successfully talk to the giant monsters in the movie Pacific Rim, which you presumably watched.

But which you clearly didn't.

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