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Maxwell Lord posted:The term Mary Sue loses a LOT outside of fanfiction, where it's specifically you inserting your Original Character Do Not Steal into a licensed universe and they're better than the heroes at everything and they can't believe how good this new person is, and half the characters fall in love with them, etc. I have heard people argue that Daenarys Targaryen and Jon Snow are Mary Sue characters despite not being fanfics, and it's a compelling argument. But yeah Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter are not Mary Sues.
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The main problem with GoT now is the rushed nature of the HBO series where everyone has plot armor because Martin already detailed the ending to the writers and they’re trying to cram another 4000 pages into two seasons
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Nov 21, 2017 23:56
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In common Internet usage, a Mary Sue is a female character that does something better than a male character.
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Nov 21, 2017 23:59
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Mary Sue is not a concept that makes sense outside of fanfic culture
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Mary Sue is not a concept that makes sense outside of fanfic culture
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Paradise Lost is Bible fanfic and Satan is a Mary Stu. Close reading of that tends to reveal Satan is contradicting himself and talking a lot of bullshit in an attempt to rationalize his actions. Milton wasn't really taking his side.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Mary Sue is not a concept that makes sense outside of fanfic culture I may be misusing the term then, as I was under the impression it was basically just a "does everything well and miraculously solves problems" character, so apologies for this derail. I wasn't aware of the connection to fanfics and such. But yeah, going back to Stranger Things, Eleven just acts as this all powerful savior who's powers seem to expand to whatever is needed to solve the problem in front of them. My wife turned to me halfway through the season after the military MPs and lab crew got eviscerated (again) and was like "they're just going to have Eleven come back and save everyone". Which I guess is the hero archetype, but it just struck us as lazy. Like how demodogs seemed to be invulnerable to guns when Hopper was trying to save Bob...until guns suddenly worked and Hopper was blasting them out of the air while Eleven yelled at the portal." ONE YEAR LATER posted:To be a pedantic nerd for a moment: You're right, although I still think it's a completely underwhelming resolution to the cliffhanger, and a good example of the problems I had with the season. Lycus posted:In common Internet usage, a Mary Sue is a female character that does something better than a male character. For what it's worth, the last time I heard the term used, it was referring to Jack Reacher 
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Who is the og Mary Sue that the term comes from?
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Borrowed Ladder posted:Who is the og Mary Sue that the term comes from?
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How the hell can Wesley be a Mary Sue? He was gifted in certain fields, but he was a monumental pain in the rear end to most people around him. Doesn't a Mary Sue have to be preternaturally gifted and well liked? There's a reason that when the traveller told everyone he was going to take Wesley to another dimension, everyone was all "Yeah, good luck with that. Have a nice trip. Byeeeeeee."
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Paradise Lost is Bible fanfic and Satan is a Mary Stu. No it isn't What we call fanfiction is the product of a specific set of cultural circumstances and premised on certain ideas which didn't exist until relatively recently. You can trace the history of fanfic back through various popular websites, fandoms, fanzines and so on, and the contents of fics are influenced by the aims of fanfic authors and the assumptions they make about their readers. As a genre, or set of genres if you prefer, it's definitely distinct from older poetic works that adapted or took influence from existing texts. Calling old texts "fanfic" can be a way of critiquing the assumptions people make about fanfic, but is mostly just kinda facetious.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:How the hell can Wesley be a Mary Sue? He was gifted in certain fields, but he was a monumental pain in the rear end to most people around him. Doesn't a Mary Sue have to be preternaturally gifted and well liked?
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I noticed The Hunt for Red October is on hulu, which is one of those all time great movies you can watch over and over again, like Jurassic Park or The Thing gently caress I love that movie also finished Future Man, pro watch
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Basebf555 posted:Haha yea that's the truth. Each Bahubali movie is like 2hrs 30mins+ I used to complain about long Hindi movie lengths as a kid till my mother had had enough and she explained it to me like this: "for most of the Indian population going to the movies is both a luxury and the only entertainment they have access to. [this was pre internet] They live hard lives and want feel good stories that are long and take them away from their troubles for a few hours, with plenty of songs and simple storylines."
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A MIRACLE posted:I noticed The Hunt for Red October is on hulu, which is one of those all time great movies you can watch over and over again, like Jurassic Park or The Thing The Hunt For Red October, The Thing, Jurassic Park, The Shawshank Redemption, and Raiders of the Lost Ark all fall into that category for me. Especially Raiders. It's just so perfect.
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Any good recommendations on the 'flix or youtube or whatever for comedians similar in content-style of John Mulaney? Like, he swears and stuff, but his jokes aren't "so i was cumming on this bitch last night and" stuff that I wouldn't watch with my parents even as an adult.
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drunken officeparty posted:Any good recommendations on the 'flix or youtube or whatever for comedians similar in content-style of John Mulaney? Like, he swears and stuff, but his jokes aren't "so i was cumming on this bitch last night and" stuff that I wouldn't watch with my parents even as an adult. Demetri Martin immediately springs to mind. He cusses, but his comedy is really silly and not vulgar.
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I recommend Jim Gaffigan, Mike Birbiglia, Flight of the Conchords. I've seen these guys on Netflix, or Hulu at different points but I don't know if they're currently available there. Flight's one night stand special is on Amazon Prime Video. Edit: Few Christmases back my grandparents put on some Christian Comedy special and it was physically painful to watch. Thou Shalt Laugh 2. Victoria Jackson and Dan Nainan were beyond awful. Jolo fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Nov 24, 2017 |
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Nov 24, 2017 04:59
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drunken officeparty posted:Any good recommendations on the 'flix or youtube or whatever for comedians similar in content-style of John Mulaney? Like, he swears and stuff, but his jokes aren't "so i was cumming on this bitch last night and" stuff that I wouldn't watch with my parents even as an adult. I've been enjoying Jack Whitehall's stuff on Netflix lately. English comedian. Was almost Harry Potter.
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drunken officeparty posted:Any good recommendations on the 'flix or youtube or whatever for comedians similar in content-style of John Mulaney? Like, he swears and stuff, but his jokes aren't "so i was cumming on this bitch last night and" stuff that I wouldn't watch with my parents even as an adult. Brian Regan is historically a super clean yet funny comedian. He has a new special on Netflix.
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Anybody know if Full Metal Jacket is up on any streaming services?
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drunken officeparty posted:Any good recommendations on the 'flix or youtube or whatever for comedians similar in content-style of John Mulaney? Like, he swears and stuff, but his jokes aren't "so i was cumming on this bitch last night and" stuff that I wouldn't watch with my parents even as an adult. Gary Gulman is quite clean and very funny.
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LadyPictureShow posted:Anybody know if Full Metal Jacket is up on any streaming services? According to JustWatch it's on Amazon, Google Play, Vudu, PSN Store, MS Store and iTunes.
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Nov 24, 2017 22:37
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Anyone start Godless? Looks like it might be a winner. I could go for a Western anyways.
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It's okay. There's nothing really unique about it, lots of conventional Old West story stuff. You'll probably like it if you like Old West movies.
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If any of you guys watched Mindhunter and liked Holt Mcallany's performance, Lights Out is back on netflix. Show was awesome, but sadly only one season
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veni veni veni posted:Anyone start Godless? Looks like it might be a winner. I could go for a Western anyways. I started it. It seems okay so far. I love Scoot McNairy in everything he's ever in. Michelle Dockery's American accent is pretty bad.
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How is Punisher so good. I always feel like the Marvel shows are kind of flat and hard for me to get in to, but this one is just blowing me away. The acting is superb.
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Blind Rasputin posted:How is Punisher so good. I always feel like the Marvel shows are kind of flat and hard for me to get in to, but this one is just blowing me away. The acting is superb. I think it's all about how good Jon Bernthal is. He's the reason they made the season in the first place.
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fishtobaskets posted:I think it's all about how good Jon Bernthal is. He's the reason they made the season in the first place. He's a big part of it, but they really tailored the show to his strengths and the pathos he brought to the first four episodes of daredevil. It helps there's no push to make his plot fit into the defenders at all.
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Should I watch daredevil if I liked Punisher? Is there more Punisher back story in it or something? I feel like I am missing a big part of the backstory with his family’s murder and who did it.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Should I watch daredevil if I liked Punisher? Is there more Punisher back story in it or something? I feel like I am missing a big part of the backstory with his family’s murder and who did it. Season 2 of Daredevil was basically season 1 of both The Punisher and The Defenders. You should watch Daredevil. It's actually good. So are Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. I'm glad to see a good response to The Punisher. I haven't been eager to watch it since Iron Fist and The Defenders were so weak.
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Once you've watched daredevil, luke cage, and jessica jones, you're pretty much committed and may as well skim through iron fist and defenders just to be caught up on the metaplot for when another show comes around. Punisher is probably the best marvel show in that it's consistently great and doesn't drag towards the end, but DD s1 and JJ are also both incredible and LC is really good.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Should I watch daredevil if I liked Punisher? Is there more Punisher back story in it or something? I feel like I am missing a big part of the backstory with his family’s murder and who did it. The parts of S2 of Daredevil that dragged for me only really dragged because I wanted it to go back to the Punisher plot. It's still good, but the Punisher stuff in Daredevil was fantastic. E: Until the Punisher came out, S1 of Daredevil and S2-E1-4 were the best marvel TV
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All of the Hand stuff in Daredevil season 2 is dogshit
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GonSmithe posted:All of the Hand stuff in Daredevil season 2 is dogshit Hence why it was season 1 of The Defenders.
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Punisher series was really really good. I really enjoyed Punisher himself on Season 2 of daredevil, and the show kind of lost me when that was mostly resolved in episode 3-4. If you read the comic books, Punisher's Debut in Daredevil season 2 (when he gave Daredevil the choice) was absolutely awesome, and the Punisher series also takes some liberties with both the regular comics and the Punisher MAX comics. only bad part about this series is the ending credits remind me of the video game, Rebel Galaxy.
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I slogged part way through episode six before I tapped out of Punisher. e: lmao speaking of which, they're remaking Death Wish? Is urban crime on the rise or something? Why is this kind of story so compelling again? eighty-four merc fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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I thought for a minute that punisher’s actor was the voice actor for Wolfenstein’s BJ Blaskowitz. They are nearly the same drat persona.
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Bushwick is pretty stupid but it's also entertaining. If you enjoy dumb poo poo like The Purge like I do, its worth a watch. Also it's probably the only thing you'll ever be able to watch where dave bautista is the best actor in it.
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