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Volkerball posted:Still early for all the details, but as of now it seems that nearly 200 people have been killed during a terrorist attack on a Sufi mosque in the Sinai. Likely ABM/ISIS responsible. It's a disaster. Yeah it seems pretty bad https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/934062259537670144
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/934131805409697792 If only we had the Wall then Egypt might have been spared!
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/934131805409697792 "God bless Egypt and the Egyptians. Now let's hurry up and ban any of them from entering the US!"
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Bip Roberts posted:What a cool would we would live in if Gaddafi was writing nytimes op eds and Friedman got a knife in the butt. We should coax all third world dictators into retirement by giving them NYT and WaPo opinion columns and sending the current ones to bear responsibility for their crimes. We could have had Mugabe, Saddam, Gaddaffi, Assad, Fatty Kim, all together
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He might have promised to stop arming the PKK/YPG, a designated terrorist organization and completely unrelated to the Syrian Democratic Forces made up of Syrians who are for democracy you see.
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Squalid posted:Involvement is much deeper than just the bombing campaign, especially in Somalia. Anyway, asking why doesn't the US just stop bombing Yemen is like asking why doesn't the US pull out of Afghanistan. It's not that the US couldn't, but if it did, the immediate result would make US politicians look really bad. Likewise doing anything that might change the situation favorably for the US would be so expensive it would also be an incredible political liability, as well as the opportunity cost probably vastly exceeding the benefits. Much easier political to contribute the minimum bombs/guns/soldiers necessary to just keep chaos continuing indefinitely. According to my best friend who recently had to leave Afghanistan due to being targetted (as any medium to high level NGO/IGO worker is now) by the Taliban, its a loving lost cause. The Taliban have effective control of the majority of the country and can reach into governmental areas in Kabul at will.
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Its amazing at how much of a lack of American presence is at this thing. A total void of leadership and acquesiance to Russian leadership. Whatever. mlmp08 posted:The latest assessment by the top US general in Afghanistan is that it’s a stalemate, but they’ll use more troops and advisers and a wider bombing campaign to turn it around. This is a very conservative estimate by the Nytimes that's already outdated. 
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guidoanselmi posted:same. never forget: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3076512 Yeah the linkage of blackwater which doesn't even exist anymore (I think even Xe might be defunct) and the fact its the daily mail makes that particular claim look super bullshit. But yeah they're obvi being tortured by someone.
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Shageletic posted:Yeah the linkage of blackwater which doesn't even exist anymore (I think even Xe might be defunct) They're as defunct as the United Fruit Company, which is to say, they just change their name from time to time to get rid of the bad press. Nowadays, they go by Academi.
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Shageletic posted:Its amazing at how much of a lack of American presence is at this thing. A total void of leadership and acquesiance to Russian leadership. Whatever. It’s not that America just didn’t show up. The US was deliberately not invited.
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Cat Mattress posted:They're as defunct as the United Fruit Company, which is to say, they just change their name from time to time to get rid of the bad press. Nowadays, they go by Academi. is there any PMC that doesn't accrue so much bad press time and time again that they have to change their name constantly? seems a difficult sector in which to develop a lasting brandname.
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I'm deliberately not quoting in case you decide to edit, but at this point you really seem to be out on a limb way past the kinds of things people used to say "stop trying to get Al Saqr killed" about. Posting anonymously on a dead American forum probably isn't the biggest threat to MBS, but even using that particular phrase ironically seems ill advised.
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Sinteres posted:I'm deliberately not quoting in case you decide to edit, but at this point you really seem to be out on a limb way past the kinds of things people used to say "stop trying to get Al Saqr killed" about. Posting anonymously on a dead American forum probably isn't the biggest threat to MBS, but even using that particular phrase ironically seems ill advised. Fine. I'll change the posts. I'm fine, don't worry about me.
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KiteAuraan posted:In all seriousness, do you have a get out plan in case things go to all Hell? There's only three situations right now that would legitimately make me afraid:- 1) that the financial or economic structure of the country collapses, and the government becomes insolvent. 2) the purges start becoming wide and deep enough that it affects all of society big and small people, which isn't the case right now. 3) that there's an actual bloodletting and mutual assasination thing going on amongs the princes, which would absolutely mean that the country is on the verge of collapse. Until one of those three things happen I'm not overly concerned.if something does happen I'll take a plane to a relative somewhere out of the country or something, but right now there's no reason at all to worry. I'm just really sad, really exhausted and really depressed. Watching everything go to poo poo in every conceivable way and being so totally helpless to stop it despite knowing that a better future is really possible, watching so many people so willingly get swept up in insane stupid fake nationalism and celebrate something so harmful and cruel to them, it really eats you up inside and darkens your days to no end. I would definitely say that the destruction of the Arab spring has legitimately ruined my ability to enjoy life in a lot of ways, I wish I didn't have to post and impotently scream on a forum but what the gently caress else am I going to do? I need to say something, anything, because if I don't I will legitimately go insane and take it out on people around me. I destroyed a relationship with a childhood friend when he started praising Sisi, I started screaming at him like a madman and insulting him in ways I can never take back, and after I was done laying on him he cried right in front of me and started calling me a terrorist to my face, me, someone who just wants him to have free elections, the right to free speech and political freedom, and we've stopped speaking to the each other. I don't regret it since he's a fascist idiot so I'm better off without his 'friendship', but holy poo poo that experience made me act in a guttural anger I never thought I was capable of, & if I want to survive in a world of idiots and fascists I have to learn to vent online, but because we're in geohell, there's no way I can vent other than in anonymous forums where I can wrap my despair and anguish and hatred of fascism in irony and snark. rear end struggle posted:In before Al-Saqr is MBS himself Holy poo poo don't Doxx me Brah. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Sorry man, I recently lost a friend(or someone who I thought was a friend but turned out not to be) at a very difficult time in my life too and it's the worst. You don't know who you can trust any more and whether it's you who's the crazy one. I've slowly gotten better but it's still not great.
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Is there any possible that ISIS didn't attack the Sinai mosque? I could see both Sisi and MBS doing something this awful. https://twitter.com/intelwire/status/934451950095134721
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The X-man cometh posted:Is there any possible that ISIS didn't attack the Sinai mosque? I could see both Sisi and MBS doing something this awful. Its a big blow to Sisi's image and legitimacy. If a military dictator can't keep down a rebellion and keep people safe, what's he good for? If MBS was behind this for some bizarre reason, there'd be reports hezbollah was behind it. The rebellion in the Sinai is several years old at this point. This attack was a bit different in how it targeted civilians, but its not like this came out of nowhere. IS and affiliates routinely blow up mosques of people they deem insufficiently muslim.
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rear end struggle posted:In before Al-Saqr is MBS himself MBS confirmed having (fake) multiple personality disorder would be p epic.
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Al-Saqr posted:I'm just really sad, really exhausted and really depressed. Watching everything go to poo poo in every conceivable way and being so totally helpless to stop it despite knowing that a better future is really possible, watching so many people so willingly get swept up in insane stupid fake nationalism and celebrate something so harmful and cruel to them, it really eats you up inside and darkens your days to no end. I would definitely say that the destruction of the Arab spring has legitimately ruined my ability to enjoy life in a lot of ways, I wish I didn't have to post and impotently scream on a forum but what the gently caress else am I going to do? I need to say something, anything, because if I don't I will legitimately go insane and take it out on people around me. I destroyed a relationship with a childhood friend when he started praising Sisi, I started screaming at him like a madman and insulting him in ways I can never take back, and after I was done laying on him he cried right in front of me and started calling me a terrorist to my face, me, someone who just wants him to have free elections, the right to free speech and political freedom, and we've stopped speaking to the each other. I don't regret it since he's a fascist idiot so I'm better off without his 'friendship', but holy poo poo that experience made me act in a guttural anger I never thought I was capable of, & if I want to survive in a world of idiots and fascists I have to learn to vent online, but because we're in geohell, there's no way I can vent other than in anonymous forums where I can wrap my despair and anguish and hatred of fascism in irony and snark. Seriously and unironically gonna derail this thread for a bit (cuz I'm a poor with no PM option), but you need to find some kind of practical way (no matter how small) of countering that which upsets you. I dunno what that is, but even if it's something impersonal like donating to a charity you trust or hell...just go outside sometime and be good to other people...no matter how little that something is, I guarantee it'll help counter the feeling of helplessness. Sure, you can argue: "But what's one little thing gonna help when everything else is going to hell?!" but the bottom line is you can't do anything about that. So you do what little you can and rest easy in the knowledge you did all you could at a time when most did nothing but poo poo around you. During the purges after WW2 the communists took my grandfather's brother from him and he was forced to disavow him ever having existed: "What brother? I never had one!" to make sure he and his family didn't follow too. It wasn't much, but that along with hiring legit poor folks that were willing to work and treating them fairly in those years when everything seemed bleak was what kept him going. You might not be able to do that much, but still...like I said, do what you can. I dunno if this makes sense to you but...it genuinely can bring some peace to you is all I'm saying. And whatever that small practical way is, I hope you find one. Even if it does all go to poo poo eventually, at least you made someone's moments nicer for that little while. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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Shageletic posted:Yeah the linkage of blackwater which doesn't even exist anymore (I think even Xe might be defunct) and the fact its the daily mail makes that particular claim look super bullshit. But yeah they're obvi being tortured by someone. The part where the author says « and the name blackwater is being whispered » is where I realized that daily mail had accidentally found and published a Michael Crichton script when they thought it was investigative journalism. The article might be somewhat accurate but it reads like a 22 year old fan fiction draft of a future movie about MBS. E: and also daily mail has a reputation for solid journalism alongside breitbart in that its news journalism but also not really. Saladman fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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