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Crotch Bat posted:Single most talent-rich state in the country and the backing of the SEC, you will forever be fine unless half the state succumbs to flooding from global warming and/or the SEC implodes. It's dumb to think otherwise. Counterpoint: While not awful, UF was uniformly mediocre for 90% of its history before 1984 or so. And most of that 80s success was wiped out by cheating. While there are many built-in advantages, success is certainly not guaranteed in Gainesville.
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hifi posted:I think regardless of the bowl game todd graham is safe. Maybe, but this is a weird time to do "no comment" after a big win over your rival https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/934587927597740032
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Benne posted:Maybe, but this is a weird time to do "no comment" after a big win over your rival even if we got absolutely pantsed that was always going to be his answer though edit: he's got 3 years left on his deal now
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Zerilan posted:Same, but I'm getting kind of tired of Holg at this point and wouldn't mind his departure. We should be pretty loving good next year. Basically all the starters on both sides are back. If we're 7-5/6-6 then sure.
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LeeMajors posted:Counterpoint: While not awful, UF was uniformly mediocre for 90% of its history before 1984 or so. And most of that 80s success was wiped out by cheating. You can't remove foundations once they're built. Even VT is unfuckable to a certain, different extent. FSU, Miami, Texas, UF, OSU, Michigan, USC, UGA, Bama, etc. can all lose 10 games a year for 20 straight years and if they hire a competent coach in year 21 they could be back in the title game by year 22-23. Pre-SOS UF has almost nothing in common with current UF and their bottom was far lower than it is now. The draw of the SEC was nothing like it is today and whatever the gently caress happened in HS football down there to make it explode was also nothing like it was pre-SOS. Once the foundation is established returning to glory days is a question of when not if.
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Crotch Bat posted:You can't remove foundations once they're built. Even VT is unfuckable to a certain, different extent. FSU, Miami, Texas, UF, OSU, Michigan, USC, UGA, Bama, etc. can all lose 10 games a year for 20 straight years and if they hire a competent coach in year 21 they could be back in the title game by year 22-23. Eh, I don't know about that. Recruiting bases change, facilities need to be kept up with. Like look at Pitt. Pitt was dominate for years, but the recruiting base starts changing, they don't make good investments in their infrastructure, have some incredibly bad hires and weeeelp. Or Colorado -- yikes.
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Crotch Bat posted:You can't remove foundations once they're built. Even VT is unfuckable to a certain, different extent. FSU, Miami, Texas, UF, OSU, Michigan, USC, UGA, Bama, etc. can all lose 10 games a year for 20 straight years and if they hire a competent coach in year 21 they could be back in the title game by year 22-23. Obviously I hope you're right in this, but I'm not sure there's anything empirical to say that UF is now perpetually one good coach away from dominance because Spurrier painted the stadium orange and won a title. There are lots of once-proud programs that have been floundering for a long time.
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Crotch Bat posted:You can't remove foundations once they're built. And by foundations you mean money. If the money got pulled out of one of these programs, or football in general, they'd absolutely fall apart. Football is a bubble to a certain extent, and it may be a too big fail one at that.
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Crotch Bat posted:
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If Tennessee hires Greg Schiano I will cease my Tennessee fandom immediately and jump to, uh, another orange team
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NickRoweFillea posted:If Tennessee hires Greg Schiano I will cease my Tennessee fandom immediately and jump to, uh, another orange team Being a Syracuse fan seems pretty rough right now.
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status/934481883894878208 Why would Leach go to tenessee? Thats a sidegrade
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hifi posted:even if we got absolutely pantsed that was always going to be his answer though Arizona St's AD holds a presser to announce Todd Graham will be back next year, only for Graham to tap him on the shoulder immediately to say he's taking the Arkansas job.
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Florida can certainly be fixed but I think the program needs to hit the reset button and fully commit to football again instead of trying to become Stanford east.
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got any sevens posted:Why would Leach go to tenessee? Thats a sidegrade on what fuckign planet
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got any sevens posted:Why would Leach go to tenessee? Thats a sidegrade Better facilities, more money, bigger fanbase, more prestige, more... ah gently caress it we suck right now. No way around it.
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nate fisher posted:Better facilities, more money, bigger fanbase, more prestige, more... ah gently caress it we suck right now. No way around it. lol y'all are a completely broken fanbase
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Nov 26, 2017 02:52
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:on what fuckign planet Earth. He's like god in pullman, in tenny he'd be questioned asap and they'd expect ten wins a year
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nate fisher posted:Better facilities, more money, bigger fanbase, more prestige, more... ah gently caress it we suck right now. No way around it. None of these are actually true, duder. Tennessee is indeed in a bad way, but money, facilities and prestige are all there.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:on what fuckign planet Sevens is a Wazzu fan and probably doesn't honestly believe that.
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got any sevens posted:Earth. He's like god in pullman, in tenny he'd be questioned asap and they'd expect ten wins a year oh you poor summer childe
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Grittybeard posted:Sevens is a Wazzu fan and probably doesn't honestly believe that. Husky fan actually, but i bear the cougs no ill will Leach just isnt a good fit for tenny
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LeeMajors posted:None of these are actually true, duder. I know. Let me wallow in my misery. I’m trying to avoid hope, because lately it leads to disappointment.
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got any sevens posted:Husky fan actually, but i bear the cougs no ill will so both of your responses are wickedly different from your original statement of "it'd be a sidestep"
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:so both of your responses are wickedly different from your original statement of "it'd be a sidestep" Well i'm a west coaster, but i've never heard anyone ever care about tenny one way or the other, so honestly it's a downgrade, considering the higher expectations those people have. Isnt Leach already 60+? And he's got the cougs in the top 25 all year, why start from scratch with tenny? They might barely have a higher ceiling, but it'd take 4+ years to get there got any sevens fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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got any sevens posted:Well i'm a west coaster, but i've never heard anyone ever care about tenny one way or the other, so honestly it's a downgrade, considering the higher expectations those people have. lord have mercy
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got any sevens posted:Husky fan actually, but i bear the cougs no ill will Ah, I apparently had you mixed up with another Seahawks Av guy (that or you've been cheering on the Cougs a bunch this year). My mistake.
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got any sevens posted:but i've never heard anyone ever care about tenny one way or the other, Watch this immediately. Your life will be improved.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Eh, I don't know about that. Recruiting bases change, facilities need to be kept up with. Like you need to make a concerted effort to tank a program to erode a foundation. VT was an independent that conferences scheduled for an OOC cupcake and they made like 3 bowl games before Beamer arrived. It will be super duper hard to go back to pre-Beamer levels of play. Colorado is a bit misleading. Their little run was not at all indicative of a true change as a program, it ended up as more of a blip on the radar. You could maybe say they didn't seize enough on the success to push them forward but it wasn't even a decade and they were right back down to mediocrity where they sprang from anyway. Pitt is debateable but a lot of what Pitt was pre-dates the modern era which has demonstrably changed the game. I also think they're one of the only places where a recruiting base like that could die due to how jobs dried up and people moved elsewhere. Most of the schools we're talking about have evergreen recruiting grounds or national pull due to decades upon decades of tradition carrying their name even if their team isn't at the moment. I guess it's not impossible to erode a foundation but it is intensely difficult and requires almost deliberate effort to do so and that's for a lesser program like VT or something. Trying to turn UF back into pre-SOS UF is virtually impossible short of defunding the entire thing. C. Everett Koop posted:And by foundations you mean money. If the money got pulled out of one of these programs, or football in general, they'd absolutely fall apart. Obviously but like I said, the second they luck into a decent coach all of that floods back anyway. Blueblood programs can suffer historic droughts and usually respond by breaking donation and attendance records the second things look better. Crotch Bat fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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Chump Farts posted:the lane train is 9-3, so who wants him? Hell, let's give it a whirl Ags
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nate fisher posted:I know. Let me wallow in my misery. I’m trying to avoid hope, because lately it leads to disappointment. Your drought has been longer and worse than mine, but I can empathize. I miss UT-UF rivalry meaning something. 
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LeeMajors posted:Your drought has been longer and worse than mine, but I can empathize. I miss UT-UF rivalry meaning something. Same, but FSU-UF. It's like UF doesn't even try to win anymore. 
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Randaconda posted:Same, but FSU-UF. I felt the same when urban was beating the brakes off you fools. I miss the 90s.
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NickRoweFillea posted:If Tennessee hires Greg Schiano I will cease my Tennessee fandom immediately and jump to, uh, another orange team Go Gata!
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LeeMajors posted:I felt the same when urban was beating the brakes off you fools. I don't know what you're talking about. (  ) The 90s owned. Nothing like having both teams being in the top 10 when they played every year.
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Crotch Bat posted:Like you need to make a concerted effort to tank a program to erode a foundation. Imagine this in a bubble over my head
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Real Name Grover posted:Imagine this in a bubble over my head I'd cast Ken Marino to play Callahan in the Nebraska Netflix series.
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