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"it has good life lessons for a cartoon" is what bronies use to justify themselves, btw
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I mean good life lessons for kids or w/e but I don't get when people post a MewTwo quote about cutting toxic ppl out of your life and being drama free as being incredibly deep when actually all smart boy humans know this alrady? anyways my PHUO is that Star Track could beat Star Wars in a fight
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steinrokkan posted:lol, dragonball is an ugly, stupid piece of garbage, that's not to say the other cartoons weren't. i guess one of the few good things about growing up in a socialist / post-socialist country was that cartoons were made by non-profit studios, so while they were weird, at least they were creative It was a massive culture thing that you missed out on. I don't see how that's so hard to understand
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EmmyOk posted:anyways my PHUO is that Star Track could beat Star Wars in a fight sounds like somebody never discovered stardestroyer.net back in internet 1.0 days
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EmmyOk posted:I mean good life lessons for kids or w/e but I don't get when people post a MewTwo quote about cutting toxic ppl out of your life and being drama free as being incredibly deep when actually all smart boy humans know this alrady? Dragonball's life lessons were like how rest is just as important as working out if you want to get stronger, and how letting your kids play alone in the wilderness is always okay. Not schmaltzy feel-good platitudes. Real, practical, grown man poo poo.
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ok my point wasn't that mewtwo hates toxic ppl (preach queen) it's that you can say a cartoon has good messages or whatever which is fine and true for kids but they are incredibly obvious and self-evident like "be good to your pals" and "believe in yourself" so I have no idea why adults point to this as a merit unless they're saying "that's why i have my kiddos watch them". Every now and then I'll see this on some social media site and people will post about how surprisingly deep it is for a kid's movie. Or just the quote itself and "bett you thought this was al einstein nop pals it's the mewster rekt!" and it's like yeah no duh because it's a pretty good message that's still quite easy for a kid to understand. Anyways cartoons are good but "it has a good message" is usually pretty loving dumb as a point.
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Saagonsa posted:It was a massive culture thing that you missed out on. I don't see how that's so hard to understand So was the Holocaust. EmmyOk posted:ok my point wasn't that mewtwo hates toxic ppl (preach queen) it's that you can say a cartoon has good messages or whatever which is fine and true for kids but they are incredibly obvious and self-evident like "be good to your pals" and "believe in yourself" so I have no idea why adults point to this as a merit unless they're saying "that's why i have my kiddos watch them". Every now and then I'll see this on some social media site Not to mention that they're exactly the kind of message Western children's cartoon animations have had since the loving 50s. Personally I was rather fond of Ulysses 31 because it had the tried and tested moral "don't gently caress with gods lol". 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 01:41 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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EmmyOk posted:ok my point wasn't that mewtwo hates toxic ppl (preach queen) it's that you can say a cartoon has good messages or whatever which is fine and true for kids but they are incredibly obvious and self-evident like "be good to your pals" and "believe in yourself" so I have no idea why adults point to this as a merit unless they're saying "that's why i have my kiddos watch them". Every now and then I'll see this on some social media site Also. the circumstances of birth are extremely relevant. I'm sure my trailer trash heritage gave me different opportunities than the son of a millionaire.
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Anyway my unpopular opinion is that sassassin should source his quotes and we've all been trolled.
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EmmyOk posted:ok my point wasn't that mewtwo hates toxic ppl (preach queen) it's that you can say a cartoon has good messages or whatever which is fine and true for kids but they are incredibly obvious and self-evident like "be good to your pals" and "believe in yourself" so I have no idea why adults point to this as a merit unless they're saying "that's why i have my kiddos watch them". Every now and then I'll see this on some social media site Thanks Herman Cain.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Vic Mackey was a good cop in The Shield and the department was stupid for continually hamstringing him and trying to get him put away instead of letting him do his job. I have the same opinion to a less extreme degree re: Elliot stabler on SVU except for people trying to get him put away, but he has a bad reputation among fans of the show. Didn't Vic straight up murder an innocent person in the very first episode in order to cover his rear end?
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Nov 26, 2017 01:51
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IMO half the time someone responds with  there original joke was just terrible and not even close to being a joke. The other half of the time it was just an insanely lovely take and they're avoiding being called out.
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Nov 26, 2017 02:01
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Jerry Cotton posted:So was the Holocaust. Are you saying you don't understand the Holocaust? Maybe read a book instead of watching so much anime?
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sassassin posted:Are you saying you don't understand the Holocaust? Maybe read a book instead of watching so much anime? I'm saying your a disingenuous dumb-rear end.
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Nov 26, 2017 02:04
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let's not get into this okay thanks Midge Ure's version of Man Who Sold The World is best
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EmmyOk posted:let's not get into this okay thanks 
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EmmyOk posted:let's not get into this okay thanks Well, gently caress, I didn't even know he covered it until now. It's really good, far better than Nirvana's, and possibly better than Bowie's.
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Nov 26, 2017 04:30
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Definitely better than Nirvana, definitely not better than Bowie. Was that the version they used in Metal Gear?
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spit on my clit posted:same but for the entirety of black mirror
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Just lol if you werent trying to fill the void in your life by sleeping arou d with everyone in highschool.
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Tiggum posted:Black Mirror is a bad show. It clearly wants you to think about it and how deep and relevant it is, but if you actually do think about it then it's just shallow and full of holes. Black Mirror was pitched to me as The Twilight Zone and I've held a grudge against it ever since. I don't even really mean to. If I'd been told it was Tales From the Crypt, I think I'd be less opposed to it. It just really ended up bothering me that someone's takeaway from The Twilight Zone was Black Mirror.
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Grandmother of Five posted:Didn't Vic straight up murder an innocent person in the very first episode in order to cover his rear end? He was an undercover internal affairs cop trying to stop Vic from doing his "job", so was he really innocent? EmmyOk posted:IMO half the time someone responds with Good jokes aren't meant to be funny, think of them being more like performance art.
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Das Boo posted:Black Mirror was pitched to me as The Twilight Zone and I've held a grudge against it ever since. I don't even really mean to. If I'd been told it was Tales From the Crypt, I think I'd be less opposed to it. … I haven’t seen Black Mirror (yet?) but this is how it was pitched to me too, more or less. “You like The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, right? This is like that.” If it really isn’t like that, I’d probably have a similar reaction.
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It's been a while since I saw any The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits episodes, but IIRC Black Mirror is a lot more mundane. "What if terrorists forced the prime minister to gently caress a pig on live TV", instead of "what if Merlin took you on a magic trip to Stonehenge".
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Black Mirror episodes are all focused on the impact of technology and the media; there's a reason "what if phones but too much" was used to describe the series.
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Black Mirror is good. I don't know why it's popular to hate on it here lately. Just more goon bandwagon jumping bullshit.
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lemon-lyme disease posted:… The tone is so completely, completely different that I'm not sure how anyone thinks to compare 'em. Black Mirror's very much a sci-fi Tales From the Crypt. I was thinking about this after my initial post. Despite its camp and cheap effects, I really, really love Twilight Zone because it does sci-fi with a heavy emphasis on the worth of humanity and emotion. It often had a gentle touch but when it ended in loss, it wasn't just a mean twist: It was a tragedy. It was made with a romance that considers worth of a single soul beyond measure. And unfortunately, that's a dated idea. Black Mirror is moreso a Tales From the Crypt in that it kinda revels in cruelty. It loves punishing its characters, it loves making things worse, it loves telling you that mankind at its core is obscene, hateful, ugly and hopeless. And that'd be fine if that was what I was set up to expect. It can be fun to see awful people eat poo poo! But when I think "Twilight Zone," I think of a something that believes and values the good in people and Black Mirror abso-loving-lutely doesn't do that. And yeah, Twilight Zone had that episode about scientists overseeing a man's breakdown in the face of absolute solitude; Black Mirror's take was "reality show punishment game!"
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Now I kind of just want to go somewhere and talk about The Twilight Zone. It really did have heart in the way you’ve described. I always liked the one with the guy who got solitary confinement on the asteroid.
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Black Mirror generally (but certainly not always) has protagonists pushed beyond their limits by systemic forces or by actions done in moments of weakness spiralling out of control. There are only a handful of stories where you're watching a bad person suffer and those invariably raise questions about proportionality and justice because of how cruel they end up being. I'm trying to be vague because I think overall it's a great show and spoilers drastically affect how you watch some of the stories. For more thread content: Chris Pratt is one of the many things dragging down Guardians of the Galaxy and his character in Jurassic Park is one of the best ever examples of a Mary Sue. He should stick to roles like Parks & Rec and the LEGO Movie. Doctor Spaceman has a new favorite as of 11:21 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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It's really not Twilight Zone or tales from the Crypt. it's it's own thing and thats good. Both of those shows are the easiest comparison though.
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veni veni veni posted:Black Mirror is good. I don't know why it's popular to hate on it here lately. Just more goon bandwagon jumping bullshit.
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That's pretty a stupid assessment of it. Barring that it is not even applicable to a decent chunk of the episodes, why does a show being bleak automatically make it bad?
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your sense of humor changes when you change.
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veni veni veni posted:why does a show being bleak automatically make it bad?
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EmmyOk posted:let's not get into this okay thanks I prefer the non-synthy versions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORTubKRpvc
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Solice Kirsk posted:Shhhhhhhhhhh. I'm trying to start a funnier derail than the coffee one. You moron. That’s when the Spawn action figures existed
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Trump is bad because his policies are bad, not because of the way he acts. I mean, he's a dumbass who constantly does stupid poo poo, but way too many people are upset that he's mean, or rude, instead of being mad at what he's being rude/mean about. I think a strong pro-government Leftist that's really really good at bullying would own.
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Aramek posted:Trump is bad because his policies are bad, not because of the way he acts. 
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