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So with Asgard the realm gone, did Thor lose his powers as well?
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Nov 26, 2017 14:00
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Nah, Thor has been cut off from Asgard before and still did okay. Also "Asgard is its people, not a place" and he took all the surviving Asgardians with him.
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Nov 26, 2017 14:20
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eyebeem posted:Loved the movie, and it’s my new favorite marvel film. The comic book movie you actually want to apply this criticism to is the Old Bailey hostage scene at the beginning of Justice League. And maybe you have, since I haven't waded into the CineD Justice League thread 
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Nov 26, 2017 15:08
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Avalerion posted:Is this like how movies refused to show any kind of tower crumble because 9:11, so now since there was a shooting movies can't have guns in them for a while? Even if this were a thing that scene was probably shot long before that. This would be more apt if there were planes flying into buildings around the country on a weekly basis, and people got really defensive about being able to buy planes at wal mart because it’s their right to crash them into burglars, or deer.
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Nov 26, 2017 16:19
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Magic Hate Ball posted:This would be more apt if there were planes flying into buildings around the country on a weekly basis, and people got really defensive about being able to buy planes at wal mart because it’s their right to crash them into burglars, or deer. This. They specifically chose THE gun that has been consistently used in mass shootings for their big heroic redemption scene. I get that I'm a soft bellies liberal pussy, but I couldn't help forgetting about Thor and thinking of the literal babies that were just shot in the head in a church by an rear end in a top hat with an AR. The scene is fine, it makes sense, it's a comic scene callback, but it's definitely tone deaf.
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Nov 26, 2017 16:40
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Thor opened world wide, not just in countries that think the public should have assault rifles.
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Nov 26, 2017 16:45
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eyebeem posted:This. They used a very recognizable and common gun, calm down turd belly.
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Nov 26, 2017 16:55
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Maybe they should have delayed Thor: Ragnarok until the year 3033, that way it won't be released next to any mass shootings. (Because by then we will have mass laser shootings)
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Nov 26, 2017 17:01
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eyebeem posted:They specifically chose THE gun that has been consistently used in mass shootings for their big heroic redemption scene. Yes, Walter Simonson looked into his crystal ball back in 1985 and saw that mass shooters 32 years in the future were using M16s so he deliberately drew them into the comic. That's exactly how that scene was created, you are correct. 
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Nov 26, 2017 17:04
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It's rough that they had to adapt the comic book to the letter, that must be very restrictive.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:06
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I'll die (in a mass shooting) before I let idiot Americans strip good scenes out of a movie because their country is permanently brain damaged
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Nov 26, 2017 17:09
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Well, you know, it's just difficult to enjoy a movie when it suddenly reminds you of a guy splattering baby brains all over a pew literally days before.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:17
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It's rough that they had to adapt the comic book to the letter, that must be very restrictive. would it have made you feel better if Skurge was holding 2 giant walkie talkies
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Nov 26, 2017 17:30
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CharlestonJew posted:would it have made you feel better if Skurge was holding 2 giant walkie talkies That's not really equivalent.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:32
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Well, you know, it's just difficult to enjoy a movie when it suddenly reminds you of a guy splattering baby brains all over a pew literally days before. Well, it's just going to keep happening so, deal with it? Personally I thought the scene was dece
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Nov 26, 2017 17:41
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That guys posted 51 times in here in the last 2 days and suddenly and dramatically shifted from movie isn't funny to guns in movies are unacceptable... to quote THOR... methinks there beeist a troll in our midst.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:46
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sleep with the vicious posted:Well, it's just going to keep happening so, deal with it? It doesn't...have to? That's a weird stance to take. Shootings aren't a natural phenomenon that we have no control over, it's not like you turn on the news and the meteorologist says there's a 20% chance of rain and a 45% chance of getting gunned down at a Wienerschnitzel. Work Friend Keven posted:That guys posted 51 times in here in the last 2 days and suddenly and dramatically shifted from movie isn't funny to guns in movies are unacceptable... to quote THOR... methinks there beeist a troll in our midst. No dramatic shift, sorry. My first post mentioned it.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:46
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Begone Troll! With the hammer of mine very father, Odin, I smite thee - Thor
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Nov 26, 2017 17:48
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Having an opinion you disagree with doesn't make me a troll.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:49
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Stop TROLLing the thread, friend Thor is a movie about God's and aliens with badass AR16 machine guns (awesome scene, brutal), not trolls
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Nov 26, 2017 17:52
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It was mostly about Jeff Goldblum being intensely fabulous, let's be honest here.
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Nov 26, 2017 17:58
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Also, I thought it was really cool that they used a more retro M16. It's not really "the gun" that's been used in recent mass shootings. The barrels shroud of the M16 is what you see in a action movies from the 80s, but modern AR15 and M4 barrel shrouds look pretty different. So I really appreciated that they didn't use a more modern style of gun.
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Nov 26, 2017 18:02
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Having an opinion you disagree with doesn't make me a troll. Constantly posting and never letting it go kinda does though. It's a callback to a famous comic scene. Sorry you didn't like it, but you can shut up about guns now.
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Nov 26, 2017 18:13
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Unoriginal Name posted:Constantly posting and never letting it go kinda does though. It's a discussion thread and people keep responding, if you don't want to see further discussion, stop responding. edit: what're some good early Thor comics? I grew up mostly with newspaper strips and Mad Magazine so I totally bypassed superheroes, but I've always liked the mid-late century style. Magic Hate Ball fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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Nov 26, 2017 18:15
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It doesn't...have to? That's a weird stance to take. Shootings aren't a natural phenomenon that we have no control over, it's not like you turn on the news and the meteorologist says there's a 20% chance of rain and a 45% chance of getting gunned down at a Wienerschnitzel. they pretty much are at this point. Nobody in power is going to do a drat thing about it so it's pointless to criticize every movie for having guns
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Nov 26, 2017 19:37
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CharlestonJew posted:they pretty much are at this point. Nobody in power is going to do a drat thing about it so it's pointless to criticize every movie for having guns Especially since, in this case, guns were being used to defend women and children instead of, you know, killing them.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:40
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CharlestonJew posted:they pretty much are at this point. Nobody in power is going to do a drat thing about it so it's pointless to criticize every movie for having guns I disagree, I think that's an unhealthy attitude, and I don't think we should glamorize gun violence. That's all. 
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Nov 26, 2017 19:43
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I disagree, I think that's an unhealthy attitude, and I don't think we should glamorize gun violence. That's all. glorified gun violence can be a really really cool thing ex: the John Wick movies
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Nov 26, 2017 19:44
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Guns and gun violence are cool, and Marvel should keep up the good work. That's my thoughts in Thor ragnarok
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Nov 26, 2017 19:48
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I disagree, I think that's an unhealthy attitude, and I don't think we should glamorize gun violence. That's all. Context is important. In some movies, gun violence is shown as a cathartic way to deal with your personal problems. It’s a badass way to get revenge, to assert yourself, to show how masculine you are. This is unhealthy, and Thor: Ragnarok starts out rightly criticizing it with Skurge’s buffoonish “Des and Troy” speech. In the end, he uses Des and Troy, not to assert himself or enact retribution, but to defend others. I think there’s an important distinction there.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:50
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Phylodox posted:Context is important. In some movies, gun violence is shown as a cathartic way to deal with your personal problems. It’s a badass way to get revenge, to assert yourself, to show how masculine you are. This is unhealthy, and Thor: Ragnarok starts out rightly criticizing it with Skurge’s buffoonish “Des and Troy” speech. In the end, he uses Des and Troy, not to assert himself or enact retribution, but to defend others. I think there’s an important distinction there. I mean, I guess? Maybe I'm not familiar enough with the character. It felt like if Bilbo had given Frodo a special magic AK-47, and then at the end of Return of the King he'd shot Sauron in the eyeball with it.
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Nov 26, 2017 20:00
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Should have given him less lethal guns like icers from AoS
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Nov 26, 2017 20:08
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I mean, I guess? Maybe I'm not familiar enough with the character. It felt like if Bilbo had given Frodo a special magic AK-47, and then at the end of Return of the King he'd shot Sauron in the eyeball with it. What are you a script doctor or something???!! That’s money! You got the job!
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Nov 26, 2017 20:21
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LingcodKilla posted:What are you a script doctor or something???!! lmao
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Nov 26, 2017 20:24
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They should include a school shooting in the next one just to drive this segment of the audience away
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Nov 26, 2017 20:25
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Accretionist posted:They should include a school shooting in the next one just to drive this segment of the audience away 
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Nov 26, 2017 20:30
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I mean, I guess? Maybe I'm not familiar enough with the character. It felt like if Bilbo had given Frodo a special magic AK-47, and then at the end of Return of the King he'd shot Sauron in the eyeball with it. And? Other than the obvious anachronism, why should that bother you?
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Nov 26, 2017 20:47
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Phylodox posted:And? Other than the obvious anachronism, why should that bother you? Because I don't go to fantasy films for hooah gun nonsense?
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Nov 26, 2017 20:51
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Because I don't go to fantasy films for hooah gun nonsense? But hooah sword nonsense is fine? Death and violence you don’t mind, as long as it’s perpetrated with outdated tools?
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Phylodox posted:But hooah sword nonsense is fine? Death and violence you don’t mind, as long as it’s perpetrated with outdated tools? Well, mass sword attacks are pretty rare, so...
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