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Avenging_Mikon posted:It just seems like the fact recording happened should be more important than what was recorded. If I went and downloaded this on Friday and had a quiet weekend alone, then Monday morning find out it’s recorded me I’m less deserving of legal protection? then you file something that says “this application was recording without my permission during the hours of x and y during which I was in my house. recording of conversations within ones house is protected by z law as ruled on...”. you have to specifically accuse them of something not vaguely say “this could’ve done something”. now you can do discovery and ask for all recordings from your phone as well as anything sent to their server from your phone in the future or whatever an actual lawyer and not someone that looked at becoming one and said “gently caress that” could elaborate hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Nov 27, 2017 22:42
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34c3 talks, help me figure out which ones are worth prioritising https://halfnarp.events.ccc.de
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:34c3 talks, help me figure out which ones are worth prioritising https://halfnarp.events.ccc.de Here's my picks:  
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spankmeister posted:Here's my picks:
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flakeloaf posted:it's the self-help book, but in app form The app provides actual objective measurements of how much you spoke. Of course it doesn’t give any weight to the quality of the words. We all know at least one person who drive bed on and on around in circles for 90% of any meeting. It probably does it by uploading the full recording of your meeting to Mechanical Turk.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:34c3 talks, help me figure out which ones are worth prioritising https://halfnarp.events.ccc.de i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good Shinku ABOOKEN posted:two talks on intel me already 😰 these Kuvo fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Kuvo posted:i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good
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Kuvo posted:i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good
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Kuvo posted:i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good
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ate all the Oreos posted:here it is, excuse the lovely mashable link it's the first google result: http://mashable.com/2017/10/18/allai-app-speak-up-in-meetings/#B8xmWO6_DOqx I thought nothing could top LinkedIn expecting you to willingly send all of your company's email through their servers. I was wrong. Kuvo posted:i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good
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Avenging_Mikon posted:It just seems like the fact recording happened should be more important than what was recorded. If I went and downloaded this on Friday and had a quiet weekend alone, then Monday morning find out it’s recorded me I’m less deserving of legal protection? iirc some data breach related lawsuits have been thrown out because even though the plaintiff could easily show their information was exposed, they failed to show that they were harmed by it e: yeah, here's an article, and here's one where scotus said that civil rights groups couldn't sue over a warrantless wiretapping act because they couldn't show any concrete harm vOv fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 06:07
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vOv posted:here's one where scotus said that civil rights groups couldn't sue over a warrantless wiretapping act because they couldn't show any concrete harm That's the most galling one, because by definition there's no way you could actually prove standing outside of a major gently caress up, and then when the major gently caress up actually serendipitously lands in your lawyer's lap, the "lack of harm" of someone "just" listening to your private conversations makes it A-OK. It's the most intentionally short sighted and obsequious decision imaginable but it's ok because the defendants are brown and it would never happen to hurt real, patriotic Americans with nothing to hide.
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vOv posted:iirc some data breach related lawsuits have been thrown out because even though the plaintiff could easily show their information was exposed, they failed to show that they were harmed by it. Yep. You have the Supreme Court's Spokeo decision to thank for this.
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vOv posted:iirc some data breach related lawsuits have been thrown out because even though the plaintiff could easily show their information was exposed, they failed to show that they were harmed by it proving damages is sort of an important part of suing someone, though isn't it?
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I'm listening to your every word, watching your every move, and reading every message you send. I'm not physically harming you, I'm just stalking you. No one is getting hurt here right, so what's the problem?
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intrusion on seclusion is a tort in lots of places; i live in such a place and "but you suffered no harm" is definitely a mitigating factor in calculating damages. it's more statutory relief/punitive damage than it is an attempt to compensate you or make you whole also that's rather different than you dropping something i asked you to hold e: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2012/2012onca32/2012onca32.html flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Kuvo posted:i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good
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in theory you can be harmed by any kind of data exposed, as - this is an example given to me recently in a gdpr seminar - even the kind of music you listen to may be of influence on, for example, the interest on your mortgage. if you have to pay half a percent extra because your profile is unfavorable, you’re harmed by that information being public. harm often wrongly thought of as purely physical but lol internet and privacy
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also the gdpr seminar used that example because our tax service found that Bach listeners in general pay on time and correctly, so this information could be used in your advantage too of course
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https://twitter.com/cglyer/status/935520759358918657 this is pretty interesting and its got me looking for more examples of data exfiltration obfuscation.
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Kuvo posted:i hope you continue to do the write ups/recomendations for these because the ones last year were real good lol i've gone the last two years and last year I went to the talks I wouldn't usually go to because I knew Wiggly would have the good recommendations to watch later also if anyone is physically attending and would like to hang out lemme know
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-leak-inscom-exposes-red-disk-intelligence-system/  subtle
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there's a new password manager i saw some sec people talking abouit https://www.remembear.com/ can someone evaluate it for fuckups pls it sounds too good (also the bear art on the main page is a little weird)
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Daman posted:(also the bear art on the main page is a little weird) gently caress you, you anti-ursite son of a bitch. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 19:30
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if it's got autofill i think i know how that audit's gonna go
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Daman posted:there's a new password manager i saw some sec people talking abouit it's a honeypot
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Daman posted:there's a new password manager i saw some sec people talking abouit they're yelling about no critical vulnerabilities found in the long security audit (25 days spread over 6 modules), but end of the day it's a password manager. the first check you'd do before bringing in outside auditors is make sure the domain detector was functional: quote:RMB-01-001 Mac/iOS/Android/Win: Faulty domain detection leaks passes (High)
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Nov 28, 2017 19:53
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have all the fun generating those ccSLD lists. the browser eTLD ones are a joy to maintain
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spankmeister posted:Here's my picks: uhhhh you forgot the session on how 2 drift
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Daman posted:there's a new password manager i saw some sec people talking abouit i think the bear is cute, and also theyre my best friend now
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lol just reproduced this https://twitter.com/lemiorhan/status/935581020774117381
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:RMB-01-001 Mac/iOS/Android/Win: Faulty domain detection leaks passes (High) ah, the lastbear
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:lol just reproduced this who wants to bet this is a feature their support uses to help moms and dads get back into their locked computer
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Forgotten you password ? No problem
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:lol just reproduced this
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Truga posted:who wants to bet this is a feature their support uses to help moms and dads get back into their locked computer I would kill for some kind of backdoor like this with some of my users, so yeah going to guess this is the case.
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