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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

I loving love your figure drawings. They look so effortless.

All my figures look stiff. I usually go good with practicing them for about a week or two and then I get burned out or frustrated. :(

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ChickenSuit
Apr 2, 2002

"You know I love you back."
Halfling bard named Porthos for a DnD campaign some friends are running.




Did the original sketch while playing and did everything else yesterday while ignoring work.

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

Franchescanado posted:

I loving love your figure drawings. They look so effortless.

All my figures look stiff. I usually go good with practicing them for about a week or two and then I get burned out or frustrated. :(

Thanks so much!

Do you draw from life? I think that’s invaluable.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

smallmouth posted:

Thanks so much!

Do you draw from life? I think that’s invaluable.

I do! But when I try to go through the proper ways, like the Loomis method or how Proko teaches it, they all look stilted, stiff and bad. I haven't had anything click for me yet, so it's an uphill struggle. I've tried to look for classes, but the art teachers of my city apparently refuse to work past 6PM or on weekends.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

ChickenSuit posted:

Halfling bard named Porthos for a DnD campaign some friends are running.




Did the original sketch while playing and did everything else yesterday while ignoring work.

freakin' LOVE it.

I put up a tutorial post about that last painting btw:
The Old Country

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Neon Noodle posted:

freakin' LOVE it.

I put up a tutorial post about that last painting btw:
The Old Country

This is awesome and I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. I find it tremendously helpful. If you do any more, please continue to post them.

Radio du Cambodge
Dec 3, 2007

Franchescanado posted:

I do! But when I try to go through the proper ways, like the Loomis method or how Proko teaches it, they all look stilted, stiff and bad. I haven't had anything click for me yet, so it's an uphill struggle. I've tried to look for classes, but the art teachers of my city apparently refuse to work past 6PM or on weekends.

I've never heard of Proko but I've skimmed a Loomis book and found it way too prescriptive for me, with the line-skeleton frames and ideal proportions and everything. Personally I think that whole approach is super unintuitive and generates stilted drawings because it's adding an extra level of analysis to the observation of the raw figure that sucks all the life out of it. That's my own 2 cents, I'm sure it works for many people since it's such a famous resource but I could never get the hang of it. It's a stylistic thing too of course, I'm pretty loose with anatomy and rarely even try to sketch a model's whole body.

I think if the goal is to get vivid and lifelike figure drawings, the only resource I'd recommend is Drawing on the right side of the brain, since it focuses on contours and on observation - the verve of the human body comes from its contours, the realism comes from observation, and you end up sketching a lifelike figure with energy. If the goal is to generate human figures from your imagination, the stick-and-ball proportion-measurement approach might lend itself more to that. But as a basis for drawing from life I've found it totally uninspiring.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



The trick with figure drawing is always to first find the gesture. If your drawings feel stiff and cumbersome, it's because you either haven't found the gesture, or you haven't exaggerated the gesture enough. Finding the gesture consistently takes a long time to get good at, and there's no real solution aside from doing an absolute shitload of gesture drawings.

Franchescanado, do you have any examples of your figure drawings handy? It can be good to have a second set of eyes looking at your drawings if you think there's something wrong about them. For me, it's easy to get wrapped up in minutiae and end up missing the bigger picture of why a drawing doesn't work, and having someone else looking at it is immensely helpful.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost








sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further


Killing it.

Here is the WIP on that mural.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Nov 23, 2017

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

I wish I had some good advice concerning drawing figures, other than practice. A lot. I don’t use a particular technique, which probably shows. I focus on emotion—I know it’s fuzzy and romantic, but there it is.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Vermain posted:

The trick with figure drawing is always to first find the gesture. If your drawings feel stiff and cumbersome, it's because you either haven't found the gesture, or you haven't exaggerated the gesture enough. Finding the gesture consistently takes a long time to get good at, and there's no real solution aside from doing an absolute shitload of gesture drawings.

Franchescanado, do you have any examples of your figure drawings handy? It can be good to have a second set of eyes looking at your drawings if you think there's something wrong about them. For me, it's easy to get wrapped up in minutiae and end up missing the bigger picture of why a drawing doesn't work, and having someone else looking at it is immensely helpful.

I'll do some and post them for advice.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Adding some amber / shadow to the amber ox.



annnnd... painting is still not as much fun as charcoal for me. I just can't put the detail down anywhere near as fast.



Also - my photo reference has no feet... er... hooves!

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 24, 2017

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

sigma 6 posted:




Also - my photo reference has no feet... er... hooves!

drat, that's looking hella fine.

Paint it with duck feet and hope no-one notices.


I drew the Marvellous Miss Take (it's a thieving video game because that's the best kind of game)

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
doodling some fake rpg characters. Making color choices is hard when you can't undo them, but I appreciate how drawing with markers stops me from loving around endlessly



Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i made a new avatar for myself and i enjoyed working in the square format so much i did a couple things in that format



spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
That bottom lightning one is THE BOMB

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT
I've been trying to learn Illustrator a little better so I self-assigned some homework this month, where I take a random word generator and make a project out of it. Here's the list and what I have so far.

LEMON CICADA
BLAST CHALLENGE
PASSION FORECAST
GREEN CHIEF
BACON SHY
POLLUTION DEFENDER
TROPICAL SPECTRUM
GHOST ADVOCATE
GARBAGE WINE
CHEESE HUT
MINER DINER
GLOOMY INSPIRATION
EGG QUEEN





Theokotos
Jan 22, 2015

Fallen Rib

like a cigarette should posted:

I've been trying to learn Illustrator a little better so I self-assigned some homework this month, where I take a random word generator and make a project out of it. Here's the list and what I have so far.

LEMON CICADA
BLAST CHALLENGE
PASSION FORECAST
GREEN CHIEF
BACON SHY
POLLUTION DEFENDER
TROPICAL SPECTRUM
GHOST ADVOCATE
GARBAGE WINE
CHEESE HUT
MINER DINER
GLOOMY INSPIRATION
EGG QUEEN







This came out really well, what generator did you use? I'd love to do the same exercise over winter break!

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

like a cigarette should posted:

I've been trying to learn Illustrator a little better so I self-assigned some homework this month, where I take a random word generator and make a project out of it. Here's the list and what I have so far.

LEMON CICADA
BLAST CHALLENGE
PASSION FORECAST
GREEN CHIEF
BACON SHY
POLLUTION DEFENDER
TROPICAL SPECTRUM
GHOST ADVOCATE
GARBAGE WINE
CHEESE HUT
MINER DINER
GLOOMY INSPIRATION
EGG QUEEN







Wow. So good. Googling Illustrator now.

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT

Theokotos posted:

This came out really well, what generator did you use? I'd love to do the same exercise over winter break!

https://randomwordgenerator.com/

I've been wanting to do more graphic design and Illustrator was proving kind of tricky for me to learn, so I'm trying out a bunch of different things and just looking up techniques and tutorials as I go.
So I just hit that generator a bunch of times until I got some combos I thought I could work with, and I think it's personally been a GREAT way for me to make myself learn things.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
two more doodles


Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

I wanna reach inside and pet it. Who's a good monster? You are!


Phoenix borb

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Anyone got recs for people who stream/record themselves drawing? I like to watch people draw and am a little tired of the sycra/istabrek/other super MTG concept art style people who stream all the time but dont know many other illustrators worth watching

Reene
Aug 26, 2005

:justpost:

https://www.twitch.tv/ladymazur streams semi-frequently and is extremely rad.

Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Theokotos
Jan 22, 2015

Fallen Rib

Wowporn posted:

Anyone got recs for people who stream/record themselves drawing? I like to watch people draw and am a little tired of the sycra/istabrek/other super MTG concept art style people who stream all the time but dont know many other illustrators worth watching

I don't seek any out, but I stumbled on a guy named Oabnormal who is very chill, a good artist, and frequently overrun by his many adorable cats.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
do people actually watch drawing streams????? i streamed with aseprite a couple of times but except for the couple of buddies that wanted to watch i don't think i had anyone drop in.

is it one of those things where unless you game the system nobody's even going to be served up your channel?

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Al! posted:

do people actually watch drawing streams????? i streamed with aseprite a couple of times but except for the couple of buddies that wanted to watch i don't think i had anyone drop in.

is it one of those things where unless you game the system nobody's even going to be served up your channel?

I mostly only watch streams archived on YouTube since you don’t need to catch them live, I’m not good at that

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
life drawing



Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
Clapping Larry

Al! posted:

do people actually watch drawing streams????? i streamed with aseprite a couple of times but except for the couple of buddies that wanted to watch i don't think i had anyone drop in.

is it one of those things where unless you game the system nobody's even going to be served up your channel?

When you search through a category, Twitch shows you the most popular channels first, so if you have no-one or only a couple of people watching, it's difficult to get noticed in the sea of other people doing the same thing since you need to scroll alllll the way down to find the stream. This means that you've got to be streaming at the time when someone searches, as well. I've been streaming for a couple of years, and when I'd get all the regulars in at the same time, or a sudden raid from another channel, I'd also get a lot more new people dropping in. However, few of them would stay and I've usually only got the few regulars dropping in.
I honestly did not think it was something anyone would wanna watch, but I've kept up the habit because it means I've got a dedicated time to drawing.

Wowporn posted:

I mostly only watch streams archived on YouTube since you don't need to catch them live, I'm not good at that

You know Twitch archives the last 16 streams anyone's made if the user has the option enabled? When you go on a channel that's not on, it should also show you the option to watch the last stream. Look just under the "try prime" text on the twitch banner, left of the icon of the person whose channel you're on. Click the "videos" link and see the endless glory of non-interactive joy.

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
I'm making block print and watercolor Christmas cards

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Davedave24 posted:

I'm making block print and watercolor Christmas cards


yet another soldier in the war on catmas

Radio du Cambodge
Dec 3, 2007

exmarx posted:

life drawing





Whoa looks like a badass life drawing sesh. the drawings themselves are a little scratchy but it kinda works.

Here's some of mine



smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

Uriah Heep
Apr 28, 2010

im having a bit of an existential crisis here guys
Chimp study WIP

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:


non-burton christmas gothic



i love korby

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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

I liked the earlier iterations better but I have to finish it up in a matter of a couple days. :(



Super nice lighting here Sharpest Crayon.

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