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At this point you've established you're committed to resisting paying attention to the movie you're watching though.
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You are coming in with nitpicks like "Why would Batman wear armor? This is so confusing and makes no sense!" So it's tough to suss out from you what was actually confusing about the movie.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:26
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:At this point you've established you're committed to resisting paying attention to the movie you're watching though. I haven't though? Just because I don't understand how you got what you got from the movie, as opposed to what I got, doesn't mean I'm 'resisting paying attention'.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:26
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Of the hundreds of things that don't make sense or and in BvS, the loving Batman armor certainly isn't one of them. There's a picture on this page of Bruce with half the face plate broken off which I imagine would've been pretty bad on his face without the armor.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:33
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NTRabbit posted:Although this line about Excalibur, "Film critics Roger Ebert and Vincent Canby criticized the film's plot and characters, although they and other reviewers praised its visual style" is pretty much exactly what can be said about BvS, so maybe it was a good take. Psssssssssssssst Not having anything else to say on any of this, don't ever take Ebert on his word. Form your own opinions. Ebert was a fine human being, but as a critic he could be so far up his own rear end that he could visit the moon. If Ebert didn't Get Something he treated it like a flaw, even if it'd be super hypocritical for him to do so. He was absolutely one who judged things based on personal preference rather than if it was good or not. This has been my monthly "don't listen to Ebert" statement thank you
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Nov 28, 2017 16:34
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It was in the opening paragraph on wikipedia when I looked up what Excalibur was, it seemed too good to be a coincidence. I watch and enjoy The Orville, I am aware of the need to take salt with critics.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:36
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Characterization and poo poo aside, why wouldn't you wear armor when fighting a superpowered alien that helped destroy a city bare-handed? Like sure he's got kryptonite but what if that doesn't work? I mean poo poo there's a lot to rip on in that movie but that seems pretty loving easy to get.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:37
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As I said, had nothing to do with anything else I'm just compelled to remind people that Ebert is the man who decried the Friday the 13th films as being misogynist when he's the one whose sole screen writing credits are of lovely soft core porn.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:37
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:But also you're sort-of making the mistake of mixing up the character and the actor when reading that quote; note Boseman's emphasis on how Wakanda is supposedly unconquered, supposedly the most advanced. The character apparently makes a conscious point of covering up his 'natural' European accent in order to galvanize his subjects against the colonial/globalist enemy that would 'poison' the ethnostate. Things are... bad. The unexamined/unreconstructed part and the part that makes me wonder the most is the fact that Wakanda is clearly concieved of as a City of Gold/Fountain of Youth type setting, a "hidden" place of primary interest because of its natural resources. From there, there's also that primitivism/exoticism of the "natural" state of monarchy, the reactionary kings and queens, heirarchal and patriarchal fantasy that only reflects the biases of the writers and seems really counter to Afrofuturism, which is about liberation, not some retreat into pristine regal dignity or whatever. The very first thing I noticed about the trailer is that the villain seems to be some Charles Taylor Jr. type bringing bad influences in from the outside. I am equally excited to see if we'll get the world's first Hotep blockbuster though.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:44
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Read Ebert's review of Wet Hot American Summer. It's so incredibly lovely and mean spirited
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Nov 28, 2017 16:44
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MiddleOne posted:90% it was there because some board member saw the Hulkbuster in one of the Age of Ultron trailers. It wasn't the movie board members who did that, it was the merchandising board members  'Mega Armor' yeah alright sure 
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Nov 28, 2017 16:44
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"Guys, why does her wear ARMOoRRR ?!?! hurrrrR" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3HRgUhs73A CAUSE HE"S FIGHTING A SUPER POWERED BEING WHY THE gently caress WOULDN'T HE SUIT UP?!?
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Nov 28, 2017 16:49
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The unexamined/unreconstructed part and the part that makes me wonder the most is the fact that Wakanda is clearly concieved of as a City of Gold/Fountain of Youth type setting, a "hidden" place of primary interest because of its natural resources. They're a lot more open about that in the extended trailer where Klaw says "Explorers have searched for it ... called it El Dorado ... they looked for it in South America but it was in Africa the whole time" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAN_uQ4u2JQ&t=137s
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Nov 28, 2017 16:50
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Read Ebert's review of Wet Hot American Summer. It's so incredibly lovely and mean spirited Quick reminder that Roger Ebert called Beetle Juice a "Ghostbusters copycat."
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Nov 28, 2017 16:51
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The way it's textured especially suggests otherworldliness, and they do this several times during the film (particularly the kickass intro where he's introduced as a demon or vampire). The intro is cool because it presents Superman AND Batman as angels. Batman just happens to be closer to the idea that angels are loving terrifying.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:53
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They're a lot more open about that in the extended trailer where Klaw says "Explorers have searched for it ... called it El Dorado ... they looked for it in South America but it was in Africa the whole time" Prester John was a Marvel character at one point, he'd be a good BP villain.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:54
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Vintersorg posted:"Guys, why does her wear ARMOoRRR ?!?! hurrrrR" Except the suit doesn't actually work at all when he's super powered, and isn't necessary when he's been depowered. That's the problem.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:58
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NTRabbit posted:Except the suit doesn't actually work at all when he's super powered, and isn't necessary when he's been depowered. That's the problem. You apparently keep forgetting that Superman's powers aren't like a light switch There's a reason why there's a fist shaped dent in Bruce's chest and his helmet has been smashed and it's not because some regular dude was punching him.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:01
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You seem to miss the point of armor. It's meant to take the impact of something trying to tear the user apart. That way it's the suit that gets destroyed and not your meat. You are literally the only person who ever complained about Batman's armor in BvS. Did you know that bulletproof vests are compromised after taking only one bullet?
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Nov 28, 2017 17:06
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Franco talks a bit about his X-men projectquote:“I do have a superhero that I am developing,” said Franco. “I don't know how much I can say. But I will say I am producing and performing in it. It's early stages. I think probably what I can say is, like anything, there's a need to develop more.” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/james-franco-working-superhero-project-1061366
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Nov 28, 2017 17:09
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NTRabbit posted:Except the suit didn't let him go a couple rounds with Superman in the movie, it literally achieved nothing. It bolstered batmans confidence, making him physically larger than supes
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Nov 28, 2017 17:33
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Davros1 posted:There's nothing "otherworldliness" about the texture. It still looks like a man in suit. Worse, it fails to even evoke a creepiness that it's suppose to project I'm not even a fan of BvS/MoS and I think you're being a bit silly here. Even Snyder's detractors have never denied that he's great at making single frame shots, and that one is perfectly successful at making him look like an otherworldly creature, down to the appearance of a featureless black face.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:39
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Neurolimal posted:I'm not even a fan of BvS/MoS and I think you're being a bit silly here. Even Snyder's detractors have never denied that he's great at making single frame shots, and that one is perfectly successful at making him look like an otherworldly creature, down to the appearance of a featureless black face. His body's clearly visible, as are his arms. It's clearly a man standing there. Perhaps if the costume was designed to have the cape come around his shoulders to obscure his form, losing the obvious human shape, then yes, it could appear "otherworldly". But the human aspects are obvious.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:53
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Davros1 posted:His body's clearly visible, as are his arms. It's clearly a man standing there. Perhaps if the costume was designed to have the cape come around his shoulders to obscure his form, losing the obvious human shape, then yes, it could appear "otherworldly". But the human aspects are obvious. LMAO are you really equating "otherworldy" with "amorphous mass"?
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It's just a MAN. I am not scared.
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got any sevens posted:It bolstered batmans confidence, making him physically larger than supes Probably protected him pretty well from all the walls, floors, ceilings, and other debris he got thrown through.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:56
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Davros1 posted:His body's clearly visible, as are his arms. It's clearly a man standing there. Perhaps if the costume was designed to have the cape come around his shoulders to obscure his form, losing the obvious human shape, then yes, it could appear "otherworldly". But the human aspects are obvious. The Parademons also have a "human aspect".
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Nov 28, 2017 17:56
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Cythereal posted:Probably protected him pretty well from all the walls, floors, ceilings, and other debris he got thrown through. Supes could have killed him anyway, he's a god, he was taking it easy on batman. Without the armor, he wouldve gone even easier. And bats wouldve been more agile too, dodged punches maybe. But he wanted to take a beating It's not tactical, it's characterization
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Nov 28, 2017 18:01
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Davros1 posted:His body's clearly visible, as are his arms. It's clearly a man standing there. Perhaps if the costume was designed to have the cape come around his shoulders to obscure his form, losing the obvious human shape, then yes, it could appear "otherworldly". But the human aspects are obvious. I'm going to give you a huge benefit of the doubt here and assume you're just misunderstanding what people mean by "otherworldly". They certainly don't mean that he is literally unrecognizable as a human being in any way.
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got any sevens posted:And bats wouldve been more agile too, dodged punches maybe. I largely agree with you, I'm just taking this chance to post this clip and remind people that no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkK7_FsJE7Q No there would be no dodging Superman if he wanted to punch you
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Nov 28, 2017 18:08
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NTRabbit posted:It's really not. The movie is confusing, and it jumps from scene to scene without laying out a coherent story. The scenes were really pretty, but the plot was a hot mess. Crows Turn Off fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 18:10
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Burkion posted:No there would be no dodging Superman if he wanted to punch you Well not unless you have access to the Speed Force .....
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Nov 28, 2017 18:13
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"This shirt no longer fills me with unspeakable sadness!" Runaways had a pretty good line in ep 4
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Nov 28, 2017 18:19
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:LMAO are you really equating "otherworldy" with "amorphous mass"? I love this notion though, clearly all lifeforms that don't look like human beings are not of this earth.
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Nov 28, 2017 19:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1GSnipRR3U what's the big deal it's just a normal guy. obvious human aspects, arms
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Nov 28, 2017 19:20
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Batman's intro just has him looking like a big, scary dude, but not like an alien or anything.
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got any sevens posted:Supes could have killed him anyway, he's a god, he was taking it easy on batman. Without the armor, he wouldve gone even easier. And bats wouldve been more agile too, dodged punches maybe. But he wanted to take a beating You and I know that as external observers but Batman wouldn't, especially with his belief that Superman could be another Zod in waiting. He's preparing for mortal combat with something he doesn't even believe is human. To show up with out even a pretense of physical protection would have been absurd, and that's characterization. The distinction is meaningless.
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Nov 28, 2017 19:29
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Crows Turn Off posted:Batman's intro just has him looking like a big, scary dude, but not like an alien or anything. A big scary dude that is just clinging to the ceiling in a dark basement corner, like we all like to do after we hit the gym.
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"Why would someone put on for the first time armour which later proves ineffectual" is one of the more mind-boggling derails about BvS ever. Nonetheless, it seems worth pointing out that Batman's entire plan in the fight is to take advantage of Superman's reluctance to kill him outright - that being his only takeaway from their earlier encounter.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:A big scary dude that is just clinging to the ceiling in a dark basement corner, like we all like to do after we hit the gym. 20 reps of ceiling crawls, twice a day, everyday.
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