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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Three Olives posted:

I don't that is true, someone that is out on the market shouldn't have much trouble getting laid at least once a month.

Please check your gay privilege.

Also this assumes that most people are putting some amount of effort into trying to get laid every month (outside of a regular relationship), which I'm also slightly skeptical of.

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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

not all of america is coastal cities three olives, where apparently sucking and loving is how you say hello

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

MF_James posted:

i've only had one girl cry during sex and that was my first gf, she had some major issues, 16yo me was not prepared for that poo poo.

Was it because of the mace?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Three Olives posted:

I don't that is true, someone that is out on the market shouldn't have much trouble getting laid at least once a month.

if you're just looking to gently caress as many strangers as possible, sure

that number goes down if you're being selective about who you gently caress, as well as if you're hunting for a relationship instead of casual sex

many folks are looking for a relationship because once one is established, you can greatly increase the amount of sex you have while minimizing the risks

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Three Olives posted:

That must be heavily skewed somewhere because that seems really low in the age of casual dating, bar hookups and Tinder.

It is skewed, the median number will likely be several partners lower

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Brother Entropy posted:

not all of america is coastal cities three olives, where apparently sucking and loving is how you say hello

There's a "Three Olives sucks" joke in here somewhere

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

not everyone can be as big of a slut as 3O

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Three Olives posted:

I've always thought boyfriend/girlfriend was much more casual, you have those in high school, I'm talking more like the relationship has progressed as far as it is going to progress short of a ring.
Shockingly, there's no real need for 1500 loving labels to describe the exact number and quality of activities you and your SO do together. The guy you're loving to the exclusion of all others is your boyfriend, regardless of how close getting married might be. There doesn't need to be separate labels for "he makes breakfast if he spends the night", "well we don't live together but he stays over a lot and almost loads the dishwasher right", "we talked about getting a puppy if we moved in together", etc.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Yawgmoth posted:

Shockingly, there's no real need for 1500 loving labels to describe the exact number and quality of activities you and your SO do together. The guy you're loving to the exclusion of all others is your boyfriend, regardless of how close getting married might be. There doesn't need to be separate labels for "he makes breakfast if he spends the night", "well we don't live together but he stays over a lot and almost loads the dishwasher right", "we talked about getting a puppy if we moved in together", etc.

I know a couple that has been together for over 20 years, they just got married a few months ago. Granted marriage equality is more recent but they were not in a hurry to get the license because they had already sorted most stuff out legally, owned a house together, etc, etc.

Surely you wouldn't say their relationship was just boyfriends before they signed the marriage paperwork?

Bubblyblubber
Nov 17, 2014

Three Olives posted:

I know a couple that has been together for over 20 years, they just got married a few months ago. Granted marriage equality is more recent but they were not in a hurry to get the license because they had already sorted most stuff out legally, owned a house together, etc, etc.

Surely you wouldn't say their relationship was just boyfriends before they signed the marriage paperwork?

Hello everyone, this is Darrell. He's my Buttbuddy, but for tax purposes we file jointly as Very Bestest Buttbuddies.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Three Olives posted:

Surely you wouldn't say their relationship was just boyfriends before they signed the marriage paperwork?
I would, and don't call me Shirley.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Bertrand Hustle posted:

My grandparents were married 66 years, until my grandfather passed in June. They were one of those adorable old couples you see that still held hands in public.

Sixty-six years.

I was grumpy one time because I had to work a waitress shift on the 4th of July so I was going to be running late to a party.

An old couple (and their equally old children) got a table, and when I was taking their drink orders, the woman took all these old black and white 40s pics from her purse and was going through them.

She showed them to me and said proudly, 'Can you believe we've been married 63 years?' She let me look through them, and they'd gotten married July 4th 1943 before he had to ship off to WW2.

I thought it was the sweetest goddamn thing that they were still together after that long (and still loved each other). Until the day I quit that job, my boss hassled me and the cook for 'plotting against him' because we gave them a free appetizer.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Just :lol: at that girl whining about exactly how much her boyfriend cares about sex. That level of controlling is a huge red flag and he should GTFO

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Yawgmoth posted:

Shockingly, there's no real need for 1500 loving labels to describe the exact number and quality of activities you and your SO do together.

A shock was felt, as if every single tumblrina was simultaneously offended and gasped out

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Bertrand Hustle posted:

My grandparents were married 66 years, until my grandfather passed in June. They were one of those adorable old couples you see that still held hands in public.

Sixty-six years.

My grandparents were married for 66 years as well, from 1946-2012. My grandmother passed away around Thanksgiving that year. We went through her things and found dozens of love letters that they'd written to each other while he was in the Merchant Marines and scrapbooks from the 40s that they'd saved. We were really afraid that my grandfather would pass soon after that, due to the grief.

He's still kicking at 91 and I visit him every week. He's the nicest old man you can imagine :3:

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

ikanreed posted:

Just :lol: at that girl whining about exactly how much her boyfriend cares about sex. That level of controlling is a huge red flag and he should GTFO

I mean sexual compatibility is kind of a big loving deal but if she thinks every time they have sex it needs to be a deep emotional experience and not two horny people banging it out quick before bed on occasion she needs to get help.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
My long time partner (I am male, she is a queer female POC) has PTSD from being sexually assaulted two years ago. She can't currently afford counselling, has had very limited counselling in the past, and is and has been dealing with it day-to-day. Compounding this is a long distance relationship for about a year, beginning about six months ago.

From time to time, she is triggered by control issues that are based on assumptions she makes about things I say or do that she interprets as controlling her, and when that happens, she projects and gets really angry at me. She gets increasingly cruel and vicious. It takes me a long time to recognize this as it is a slow build, because she seems irritable or incommunicative, and then suddenly she is fully dissociative and furious. She generally snaps out of this after some time and then it's okay and we can talk. It ends well, but I would like to eliminate this problem.

She also had an ex-boyfriend from years ago prior to the assault who gaslit her and threatened to kill himself when she tried to break up with him, and was generally very controlling.

I think that what she is experiencing is a form of dissociation, as 99% of the time we are very loving and nurturing, we are best friends, and this issue never happened before the assault. Now it keeps happening randomly, and I am at a loss as to how to problem solve it. I have tried bringing it up when she gets angry about control issues, gently, for example I have left the room, but now that it is long distance, it's over the phone or via text and it's made it a lot more difficult. After the fact, she gets it, but it keeps happening.

We've been together for almost five years now, and these episodes happen unpredictably, but on average about once a month since her assault. I'd appreciate any advice or resources for her. I have my own mental health issues that I have undertaken therapy for, and those issues also make it more difficult for me to be rational when she isn't being herself and compound the problem. Severing is the easy route. I don't want to sever because it's not her fault.


She is fully aware that she has PTSD and has had some counseling, but right now she cannot afford therapy. She wants to get better, however in the thick of her episodes, it's awful and she can't be reached. She's a completely different person and I am totally helpless. Trying to reason with her during an episode is impossible. Leaving the situation is the only solution that works so far. I'd be very open to other suggestions.

I absolutely am not going to leave her over this. I am very certain there is something else we can do. She wants to pursue EMDR therapy when we can afford it. I just need some alternative to hanging up or messaging that I need to leave the conversation and bawling myself to sleep, or in person, leaving the room or apartment for an hour (that doesn't work every time - I've returned to her fuming and just as vicious as when I left). Last night she had an medium-grade episode and today she's both cognisant and validating the triggers (tired, mired in deadlines, misread my intent), but I am emotionally drained and I don't feel like talking to her.

One of the problems is that she says awful things when she is dissociative and then when she has come out of it, she is apologetic and assures me that she was projecting. I understand how PTSD and dissociation works, but it still really hurts, and at the same time, I don't want her to feel guilty and apologetic. Yet here I am, feeling like garbage because of the things she said last night - that I know come from a place of horrific trauma.

She is absolutely a good person, the light of my life, and I love her immensely, and she has always been there for me. I also have mental health issues. I have BPD and was lucky enough to have had lengthy DBT for it. I function fairly well, but I am fairly certain that my big emotions are part of the cycle of dissociation. I think I over-react to her when she is initially triggered/lashing out and that enables her depersonalization? I don't know. This just occurred to me. I never realize she's in an episode until way too late.

Thanks for the responses.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Chomp8645 posted:

My long time partner (I am male, she is a queer female POC) has PTSD from being sexually assaulted two years ago. She can't currently afford counselling, has had very limited counselling in the past, and is and has been dealing with it day-to-day. Compounding this is a long distance relationship for about a year, beginning about six months ago.

From time to time, she is triggered by control issues that are based on assumptions she makes about things I say or do that she interprets as controlling her, and when that happens, she projects and gets really angry at me. She gets increasingly cruel and vicious. It takes me a long time to recognize this as it is a slow build, because she seems irritable or incommunicative, and then suddenly she is fully dissociative and furious. She generally snaps out of this after some time and then it's okay and we can talk. It ends well, but I would like to eliminate this problem.

She also had an ex-boyfriend from years ago prior to the assault who gaslit her and threatened to kill himself when she tried to break up with him, and was generally very controlling.

I think that what she is experiencing is a form of dissociation, as 99% of the time we are very loving and nurturing, we are best friends, and this issue never happened before the assault. Now it keeps happening randomly, and I am at a loss as to how to problem solve it. I have tried bringing it up when she gets angry about control issues, gently, for example I have left the room, but now that it is long distance, it's over the phone or via text and it's made it a lot more difficult. After the fact, she gets it, but it keeps happening.

We've been together for almost five years now, and these episodes happen unpredictably, but on average about once a month since her assault. I'd appreciate any advice or resources for her. I have my own mental health issues that I have undertaken therapy for, and those issues also make it more difficult for me to be rational when she isn't being herself and compound the problem. Severing is the easy route. I don't want to sever because it's not her fault.


She is fully aware that she has PTSD and has had some counseling, but right now she cannot afford therapy. She wants to get better, however in the thick of her episodes, it's awful and she can't be reached. She's a completely different person and I am totally helpless. Trying to reason with her during an episode is impossible. Leaving the situation is the only solution that works so far. I'd be very open to other suggestions.

I absolutely am not going to leave her over this. I am very certain there is something else we can do. She wants to pursue EMDR therapy when we can afford it. I just need some alternative to hanging up or messaging that I need to leave the conversation and bawling myself to sleep, or in person, leaving the room or apartment for an hour (that doesn't work every time - I've returned to her fuming and just as vicious as when I left). Last night she had an medium-grade episode and today she's both cognisant and validating the triggers (tired, mired in deadlines, misread my intent), but I am emotionally drained and I don't feel like talking to her.

One of the problems is that she says awful things when she is dissociative and then when she has come out of it, she is apologetic and assures me that she was projecting. I understand how PTSD and dissociation works, but it still really hurts, and at the same time, I don't want her to feel guilty and apologetic. Yet here I am, feeling like garbage because of the things she said last night - that I know come from a place of horrific trauma.

She is absolutely a good person, the light of my life, and I love her immensely, and she has always been there for me. I also have mental health issues. I have BPD and was lucky enough to have had lengthy DBT for it. I function fairly well, but I am fairly certain that my big emotions are part of the cycle of dissociation. I think I over-react to her when she is initially triggered/lashing out and that enables her depersonalization? I don't know. This just occurred to me. I never realize she's in an episode until way too late.

Thanks for the responses.

My partner is damaged goods and it makes her act like a bitch. She knows this, but is not doing anything about it. I am also damaged goods, but I am doing something about it. Leaving this person that treats me like crap and makes my mental illness worse is not an option.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Is there a charity I can donate to that just focuses on breaking people up? Feel like this is underserved and at risk population.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

Barudak posted:

Is there a charity I can donate to that just focuses on breaking people up? Feel like this is underserved and at risk population.

Nope, you just gotta get out there and gently caress them yourself. Boners Without Borders.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
Dating is like employment law. If someone has a documented disability, you can't break up with them for that reason, and have to make reasonable accommodations. Except that by reasonable accommodation, we mean do whatever they say, and by documented disability, we mea whatever tumbler is upset about this week. If you break up with them for an illegal reason, you will owe them a reinstatement of the relationship and payment of all gifts and sex backdated to the date of their self-diagnosis.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

blarzgh posted:

Boners Without Borders.

That's the name of my new interracial porn site.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

therobit posted:

Dating is like employment law. If someone has a documented disability, you can't break up with them for that reason, and have to make reasonable accommodations. Except that by reasonable accommodation, we mean do whatever they say, and by documented disability, we mea whatever tumbler is upset about this week. If you break up with them for an illegal reason, you will owe them a reinstatement of the relationship and payment of all gifts and sex backdated to the date of their self-diagnosis.

Compassion is a strong emotion, but recent advances in social awareness have had the unintended consequence of helping people develop a formulaic approach for taking advantage of it.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Ma’am, Im from the Organization for Negotiated, Brokered Relationship Easements, Annulments, and Karyokinesis

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

blarzgh posted:

Compassion is a strong emotion, but recent advances in social awareness have had the unintended consequence of helping people develop a formulaic approach for taking advantage of it.

Dude why you gotta be so reasonable?

Milotic
Mar 4, 2009

9CL apologist
Slippery Tilde
How to blow up a marriage without cheating:

Me [28/F] with my husband [31M] 11 years, I got drunk and talked badly of my husband

quote:

u/sorrywife28
My husband and I had friends over a few weeks ago. We all had too much to drink. I definitely was the most drunk. I have issues with social anxiety and have used alcohol as a crutch for way too long.

I was trashed and said some mean things about my husband that simply aren't even true (the size of his penis for example) and I have no idea why. I even compared him to my friends abusive ex husband and said her ex was better than my husband. Then I proceeded to show my bra to my friends with one of their husbands nearby. My husband understandably was not pleased. This escalated into my husband and the other husband arguing and everyone left.

My husband is angry/upset/hurt and I don't blame him. I've apologized, I've written him letters apologizing, I've cried with him. I don't know what else to do. It feels selfish of me to just want things to go back to normal but I'm so upset that I hurt him that badly.

Since that night, I haven't had a drink. I've also just kept to myself regarding my friends because my husband is more important than any PTA mom that has entered my life.

Any advice on how to move forward without reliving everything over and over again would be great.

tl;dr: Got drunk, talked poo poo about my husband, huge argument with friends; how can we move past this? How should I handle/react to his feelings?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Milotic posted:

How to blow up a marriage without cheating:

Me [28/F] with my husband [31M] 11 years, I got drunk and talked badly of my husband

Im dissapointed the husband didnt pull out his dong to prove its size, then point her to the door.

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013




Hmm it's shocking that people who got married at 17 and 20 are destined to make poor decisions.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Barudak posted:

Im dissapointed the husband didnt pull out his dong to prove its size, then point her to the door.
...with his dick.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Barudak posted:

Im dissapointed the husband didnt pull out his dong to prove its size, then point her to the door.

Point with his dong, of course.

Blade Runner
Aug 14, 2015

Milotic posted:

How to blow up a marriage without cheating:

Me [28/F] with my husband [31M] 11 years, I got drunk and talked badly of my husband

You can't, you have permanently owned yourself and your marriage is done

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
This woman's contempt for people that actually have to work, like her boyfriend, just oozes out of every sentence. Also it's clear she doesn't understand typical human concerns like empathy, or business concepts like not buring bridges with a client.


quote:

I [20F], am very well-off. My BF [21] is average+ income. There has been a financial "situation" and I wonder if I've done the right thing.
u/Onprastz

Hello.

We have been dating for about a year, living together since summer.

I have quite a lot of money and rarely have to think about my spending habits. Even though I'm not a fan of over-the-top expensive restaurants and brand clothing, I am used to having a disposable few hundreds on hand, as I am used to going to medium-class eateries almost daily, cinemas, etc. You get it.

My boyfriend Steve grew up middle class. He makes a little more than average for his age/job in our country and abour 6 weeks ago bought himself a car (Range Rover - this is important). He has monthly payments on it - not much compared to his salary. Other than that, he needs to contribute to rent and food at home. Total of his bills would be less than 1/2 of his salary... if he'd still have his job.

He got fired 4 weeks ago. It wasn't directly his fault, this particular workplace just wasn't a good fit. He received full severance pay (2x salary) and reassured me he has no problems finding a new job, which proved to be true.

However, he spent all his severance pay in a week and a half. Paid his rent and Netflix... Granted, there were some issues with the car he needed to fix, but it wasn't much. I don't even know where all that money went - I keep meticulous tabs on my spending, not his.

Suddenly he decided to "take a break from work" and freelance. Almost immediately he gets a client, makes a deal, does the job. Client promises to pay. Well it's been three+ weeks and the client is still "promising" and feeding excuses. All this time all 100% of his expenses have been on me. His car payment, his share of rent, not mentioning food and gas... It's a lot. I have had a lot of family expenses this month and my money was planned to the brim. In the end, I had to max out my credit card to pay for everything. It's, of course, gonna be paid back in a week or two... But I haven't used it for months!

Steve says he's trying to get the money, but aside from occasional text or call (when I pester him enough), he seems to put 0 effort in getting what he's owed. It got on my nerves massively and I ask him maybe it's time to call out the client's firm via internet on their bullshit, or seek some legal action, to what he responded "that is not your choice" in a very annoyed way.

So i told him that aside from food and our shared apartment, he will be getting nothing from me until he pays me back for rent, bills and the rest. Right now he's got enough gas to go and come back from work for a few days and that's about it. He got a legit job and will have some money in 9-14th of December, so at least he can pay december's bills on his own.

I feel like I've been understanding enough to this point. I totally think 3 weeks of excuses is way too much to wait for this kind of amount of money, and his unwillingness to do anything but wait is driving me nuts. I feel like a free-money-ATM.

How do I continue? What do i do? I'm clueless in this situation.

TL;DR: I'm rich, my boyriend got fired from his job, spent his severance pay quickly, had a contract for a single time thing, the client is not paying him and he refuses to do anything about it. Meanwhile I'm stuck paying ALL of our bills.

edit wow guys. So much wow. Firstly, we are not from the US and the "30 day billing does not work". Biling deadline can be as early as the next day, it's something both parties agree to privately. Secondly, even though I am what you call "a trust fund baby", but I do have a job and up until now, I've only added to my savings fund without taking out any money.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
If you're maxing out credit cards over your bills and it hasn't even been a month, you are definitely not rich lmao

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

therobit posted:

Dude why you gotta be so reasonable?

Oh, woops. Better go find a relationship to open up.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties

Demon Of The Fall posted:

If you're maxing out credit cards over your bills and it hasn't even been a month, you are definitely not rich lmao

Her daddy's trust fund probably pays her a fixed amount each month, knowing that she'd quickly blow through it all if she had access to the entire amount.

Arturia
Jan 24, 2017

Can't stop clicking circles

Demon Of The Fall posted:

If you're maxing out credit cards over your bills and it hasn't even been a month, you are definitely not rich lmao

She said she will have it paid back in a week or two, I'm guessing most of her money is invested (retirement or otherwise) so she just put all the bills on the credit card since she didn't have enough cash to cover it all at that moment.

This isn't that uncommon, I shove all my bills on my credit card so I can just have one monthly bill instead of several bills staggered over the course of a month.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
this is why having a lot of money ruins you as a person, it cripples your ability to form relationships with others because the money always injects that little element of distrust and resentment into all your social interactions (notch)

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

quote:

However, he spent all his severance pay in a week and a half.

To be fair I don't know this is so much a "ugh, what a poor" thing and more jesus christ this guy is trainwreck financially that just does not have his poo poo together and I'm afraid he is going to be expecting me to support him.

Like there is a difference between not making as much money as your boyfriend and your boyfriend being such a fuckup financially that it strains the relationship

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

The lady in the story is 20, odds are the credit cards have low limits because her credit history started at 18 or whatever

Depending on the country it could easily be $500 or $1000 and seems to jibe with how quickly they can / will be paid off

It's not super helpful when people complain about a card being "maxed out" without specifying whether its $500 or $50,000

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Three Olives posted:

To be fair I don't know this is so much a "ugh, what a poor" thing and more jesus christ this guy is trainwreck financially that just does not have his poo poo together and I'm afraid he is going to be expecting me to support him.

Like there is a difference between not making as much money as your boyfriend and your boyfriend being such a fuckup financially that it strains the relationship

speaking of goofy people being judgemental...

for all you know the dude has savings. quit being such a weirdo elitist

"ugh, this guy does not have his financial poo poo together. now let me tell you about how normal it is to gently caress hundreds of strangers"

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