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LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Enough bickering about fairy tales, please.

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uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005


Reply from a white guy:

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

White people need to stop

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

subpar anachronism posted:


Reply from a white guy:


I like that hoodie. A dude called Masa at the local pub has one pretty much in that pattern and also about three teeth.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Jerry Cotton posted:

I like that hoodie. A dude called Masa at the local pub has one pretty much in that pattern and also about three teeth.

On a chain or in his mouth?

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

hawowanlawow posted:

lol I think I hit a nerve

Something doesn't smell right with this net neutrality push.

I don't know what it is exactly but when I see literally every single sub I'm subscribed to that isn't anti-state pushing this agenda it makes me wonder.

I subscribe to a tiny subreddit for enthusiasts of a sim racing game - /r/iracing - it has 9,000 subs and only 100 or so active at any given time, yet the highest upvoted post of all time in this sub is now about net neutrality by a twofold margin.

Someone is pushing this on us.

The post got me me thinking about the dangers of cryptocurrency, it's a digital currency backed by a paper currency. It also is taking an increasing almost insane amount of electricity, processing power and bandwidth to produce and use.

Lately i've been seeing this push for "net neutrality" and when i even see places like /r/dankmemes supporting it, and other festering funholes I know that something is up. Also i look up who is funding it and I find no surprises when my funny bone goes off. look yourself.

Really think about net neutrality, the direct effect is that corporations or entities that consume a disproportionate amount of processing power, electricity, and bandwidth be treated no differently than you or I that consume a pea's amount.

The "contra" argument is that this will allow ISP's to give incentive deals to large consumers of their electricity, processing power and bandwidth, now to me this sounds like average business when a commodity is being traded in perpetual use.

Remember no where does it say ISPs can limit access to open websites, infact this remains highly illegal regardless of "net neutrality" existing, the court process to remove a website can be ridiculous! this effectively nulls the contra argument as far as i can see.

Remember it takes processing power, electricity, and bandwidth to power and run the internet. Keep in mind that large consumers of electricity, water, and other such perpetual use commodities DO have special deals with all such providers, except internet companies(and crypto farms). Remember, an internet companies(or crypto farm) only tie to reality is the fact that a company is using processing power, electricity, and bandwidth to keep their digital commodities in existence. The lumber mill isn't paying the same municipal water fee as you for the amount it consumes, economy of scale.

with "net neutrality" and "internet as a utility" corporations and "entities" have free access to the electricity, processing power, and bandwidth of each nations internet grid. Think about cryptocurrency.

maybe i've got it wrong though.

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~
Idiots on Social Media: maybe i've got it wrong though.

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Panfilo posted:

The people who don't understand consent are ironically really touchy when it comes to their own consent- they often tend to be physically possessive of their stuff (flip out if a roommate borrowed their egg beater even though they cleaned it and put it back afterward) and often pretty drat homophobic as well. I mean if they woke up to a guy kissing and fondling them I'm sure they would panic and freak out so why wouldn't a woman in that situation? Of course the big thing here is that they are unable to connect between the two things or show empathy for others.
Yeah . . . Does anybody know if it helps get the point across to ask them how they would feel if they were sexually assaulted by a man? Probably not.

Cernunnos posted:

Idiots on Social Media: maybe i've got it wrong though.
No, it's the children who are wrong.

quote:

He (Trump) is saying the same things I am in other words. The European majority nations have too many people as it is. They should be shutting down immigration in every nation but Canada, just available resources-wise, especially from high birthrate cultures most of all. That's the obvious math element involved in Europe, but the rest of these outcomes from even encouraging immigration on any level is even worse. Honestly, self sufficiency in every nation on earth would solve most financial issues we currently face, rather than continuing international trade practices. The rest is obvious. Children's needs must be our highest priority, not wealth and status lifestyles. Criminality is NOT caused by poverty. Poverty is caused by criminality and domestic abuse. It's literally the reverse of every modern perspective we're being force-fed.

what

trickybiscuits has a new favorite as of 01:17 on Nov 29, 2017

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Scratch Monkey posted:

Why is he wearing desert/tan camo in the snow?

You won't be laughing once the Global Warming hits and he vanishes.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


trickybiscuits posted:

Yeah . . . Does anybody know if it helps get the point across to ask them how they would feel if they were sexually assaulted by a man? Probably not.

No you see it's different because I'm not gay, while all women want the cock.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

How to get fired from the hospital:

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Mammal Sauce posted:

How to get fired from the hospital:



Hope her bitterness and all her -isms get better on unemployment.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Kill all men, imo.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

Facebook Aunt posted:

Kill all white men, imo.

Fixed

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Kill all the women too, it's the only way they'll stop birthing all these horrible men.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Mammal Sauce posted:

How to get fired from the hospital:



Is that supposed to be "wolves, bitch" or "wolves' bitch"?

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Mammal Sauce posted:

How to get fired from the hospital:



What if they have a black husband :thunk:

NachtSieger
Apr 10, 2013


Mammal Sauce posted:

How to get fired from the hospital:



shes right tho

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Mammal Sauce posted:

How to get fired from the hospital:



This, but unironically

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
I understand the impulse to say this, but that is not a particularly great thing to say out loud and in public. Especially in a place your boss can see.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Midnight Voyager posted:

I understand the impulse to say this, but that is not a particularly great thing to say out loud and in public. Especially in a place your boss can see.

Oh no, a racist lost their job.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

oh she should definitely be fired but she's also right

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

Byzantine posted:

Oh no, a racist lost their job.

thats rough man, keep your head up tho, i head project veritas is hiring, they might give you a job

Bates
Jun 15, 2006

Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:

oh she should definitely be fired but she's also right

Yep, all nature and no nurture, biotruths all the way.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Byzantine posted:

Oh no, a racist lost their job.

I never said I wasn't cool with that!

I.C.
Jun 10, 2008

I don't know much about Twitter, but can't you make an account and pretend to be anyone you want?
Maybe some of these people just do that to rile other people up.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

You really think someone would do that

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

Picnic Princess posted:

You really think someone would do that

, Go on the internet and just tell lies?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~
https://youtu.be/YWdD206eSv0

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin


That algorithm serving up some spicy idiocy.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
A Facebook post, can't be bothered to screenshot it, bolding is mine:

quote:

For going on two years now, I have been following several Donald Trump groups, alt right groups, and just general far right reactionary groups. I have seen these groups grow from 500 or a thousand people to 20,000, 30,000, 50,000, and more.

When I joined them, I felt like something was changing, something new was happening, and I wanted to try and understand it. (as well as for an occasional laugh, it would be fruitless for me to deny that now.) Of course, it was loving appalling. But I kept watching. I knew Trump would win the primary long before most people thought it was a possibility on the basis of what I saw in these groups. I've become familiar with memes and tropes and ideas common in the groups and I think I've gotten a fairly good grip on the culture. I've been pretty accurate in my predictions regarding the Trump and the hard right over this period of time, other than his victory in the general election. Because of these groups.

Since that time, when the subject of Trump, or the alt right, or neo-Nazis in conversation, sometimes I will suggest to my friends, people on the left, that they join a trump group or an alt right group, to see what's going on in them. And I can't remember one time offhand when the person I was talking to thought it was a good idea. (If I'm wrong, if I'm forgetting, feel free to correct me, but I can't remember anyone wanting to.) My memory is that, to a person, anyone I know on the left who has heard the suggestion has expressed feelings somewhere in a range between lack of interest to horror, generally tending towards the latter.

So the other day I wake up to my feed full of people angry about the New York Times profile of the Ohio Nazi, Tony Hovater. I read the piece and it just seems like a profile of a Nazi to me. Completely unsurprising or notable in any way, other than its correlation with my own experience. I thought it was very well done.
Then I started reading my friend's posts about the article, articles about the article. Apparently everyone is angry about the normalization of the Nazi in the piece.
Hey, guys. Hey, as someone who's been watching this poo poo for two loving years, here's a little wake up, You really don't have to worry about the New York Times normalizing Nazis because it's too loving late. THIS poo poo IS NORMAL NOW.

Like I said, for two years I've been telling people to join a Trump group, watch a Nazi website, do something to keep yourself familiar with this poo poo, and for two years I've been watching everyone ignore that advice and then act surprised when Nazis happen. Guys, THEY'RE HAPPENING. If the Times profile bothered you, if you were surprised that the Times would print something so bland about a Nazi, you just haven't caught up to where we are. There's just no way you would be surprised if you were really familiar with real world, ground-level, political landscape of 2017. It was spot on perfect, in execution and conception. You're angry because you wanted the Times to treat the Nazi as though he were abnormal, but he just isn't. You want to read about Nazis leading some sort of twilight existence, on the cultural outskirt, but THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY ARE. The New York Times didn't normalize that Nazi. He's normal. Journalists can't hyperventilate at every Joe Dokes with a swastika poster, anymore. Normal people are Nazis, now. It was a perfect, accurate representation of the ordinariness, the commonness, of contemporary white nationalism and authoritarianism. It's exactly where America is at, and if you don't get that, you really need to.

They've come in and out of the libertarian group I run, they're all over the far right pages. The people who actually call themselves Nazis are the minority, of course, and most of the people in the Donald Trump groups wouldn't dream of referring to themselves as Nazis, right now, but they are not one iota less hateful. To be honest, they are probably more hateful than the guy the Times profiled. And half the people who wouldn't dream of actually calling themselves Nazis are EXTREMELY sympathetic to great portions of the Nazi program. poo poo, white nationalist ideas go down with barely a spoken objection in some of the straight Trump groups, quite often. They're not problematic at all. The Overton window has shifted so far and so fast, the Nazis are in it now. It's that loving simple. They may be on the edge, but they're well within the frame. The guy in the Times piece is in there, smoking a cigar, kicking back, and putting his feet on the ottoman. Again, guys – THIS IS NORMAL. THE NAZIS ARE NORMAL.

I've watched these groups proliferate, grow. You want to tell yourself that this is a fringe, that the worst, loudest, biggest assholes take over groups like that. That ain't it. A couple dozen groups have become hundreds, thousands. I've read the comments, I've clicked on the profiles, and I've read the user info for all the perfectly nice, seemingly intelligent, well-spoken citizens cheering ICE incarcerating some sick 10-year-old, saying all Muslim-Americans should be deported, demanding football players who protest the police should be put in jail until they stop kneeling, that some reporter should be thrown in jail for asking the president an uncomfortable question, that Iran and North Korea should immediately be nuked. I'm not talking about five or six unpleasant comments on your local newspaper website, I'm talking about literally hundreds of posts with threads that are thousands of comments long, every day, in every group, exactly like this, in too many groups to count. They're not monsters, they're not the prison gang leader with the swastika on his neck. They're just folks. They're filled with hate. But they are still just folks, most of the time. This is America now.

Nobody thought Donald Trump could win the Republican primary because he was just so stupid, so venomous, and so obviously beyond the bounds of what WE tought were the cultural/political norms, but he did. No one thought he could win the election for the same reason, but he did. And he won not despite those flaws, because of them. A huge segment of the population of the United States is filled with hatred so intense they actively want a vastly more authoritarian government that will shove that hatred down the throats of the left. They want fascism. They're hungry for it, whether they call it that or not. In the kind of Orwellian doublespeak this administration has become famous for, they call it "liberty" or "freedom" or "American values", but they're talking about hard authoritarianism. They're talking about fascism. A lot of them would balk at the term, but they know what they want.

The guy in the apartment next to you thinks this country would be a lot better off if we dealt with drug users the way Trump's friend in the Philippines does. One of your coworkers doesn't like the term "Nazi" because his grandfather fought them, but he goes home every night and sits in front of his computer and considers whether or not some of the points Richard Spencer is making might not be exactly what America needs. The cop that gave you a ticket for speeding last night has a 14 words tattoo that he's been hiding in the locker room for the last couple years, at least around the black officers. And the girl next to you on the bus, on the way home, she's a loving Nazi. I guarantee she's a loving Nazi.

November 8, 2016, all of us on the left and a substantial segment of the right watched in amazement as Donald Trump rode a burgeoning wave of race hatred and ideological tribalism into the White House. If you think victory has satiated this monster, you are very loving mistaken. And if you think defeating the Republicans in 2018 or 2020 is going to stop it, destroy it, you're delusional.

The new authoritarianism is here, it is part of the culture, and it's making itself comfortable. Ethno-nationalism, white supremacy, hard right authoritarianism, has been back in Europe for awhile and now it's here. Not the bad part of America you never actually visit, not some backwoods hillbilly America that we get to ignore in our little leftie bubble. Not the supermax the next county over. It's all around you, it's next-door, and it's in a little town in Ohio where a nice, young, newly married couple are starting their life together.
This is something new. Remember when Bush was president, and you'd hold up a piece of cardboard and shout that he was a fascist with a bunch of your friends? Yeah, he wasn't. Neither was Obama or Clinton or the other Bush or Reagan. They might've been terrible presidents, each of them. They might be terrible people. They might've done unforgivable things. Every single one of them was squarely within the tradition of Western liberal democracy, and so were the politics. Donald Trump isn't. His followers aren't. We are through the looking glass.

If the left doesn't stop pretending these people don't exist, pretending they're an anomaly, pretending they will go away if the Democrats take back the house, or Mueller catches Donald Jr. red-handed, or your friend posts another meme about Donald Trump being orange, the left is going to get its loving silly rear end kicked again. It's not going to get better overnight, and if Trump loses in 2020, trust me, I know these people - the hard right, the Trump right, the authoritarian right, is going to lose their goddamn minds. If Trump loses, it's going to get worse. And what do you suppose happens then? What do you suppose happens when the apple pie fascists find someone capable to do the job? What happens when someone capable realizes there's an opening? What happens when that person isn't a loving clown?

This is it. This is American politics in the 21st century. We are going to be fighting the lumpen neo-authoritarian right for the rest of our lives, likely. That's the political territory. Whatever this nation's faults in the past, it was never this before today, and if it's going to be stopped, it's going to be stopped by people who understand what's actually happening, not people with their heads in the sand and asses in the air. If you care, it's time hike up your drawers, accept the facts, and familiarize yourself with the culture you're part of, the parts of it that you've been trying to ignore. It's not going away. It's likely going to get worse before it gets better. We all need to understand what the gently caress is going on before reality slaps us all in the face again, harder, with more permanent and deadlier results.

(ed. - I really like that people enjoy this post, and I'm really glad everyone is sharing it, but some of you are cutting and pasting it and then tagging me. that's fine, except the reason some of you seem to be doing it is to avoid the Nazi insignia because it might be triggering for some people.
Guys, while I appreciate your concern for people's feelings, I put it there for a reason. it's supposed to be triggering. We need some triggering right about now, don't you think?)


:jerkbag:

Carados
Jan 28, 2009

We're a couple, when our bodies double.
As someone who is prone to write Too Many Words how the gently caress do you write so many words (and get the point out in the second paragraph)

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
More words = more smarter

Dave Grool
Oct 21, 2008



Grimey Drawer
I wish I had the ability to just poo poo out a ton of words, would make my academic career a lot easier

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Cheetos is hard one to quit, Andy.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Dave Grool posted:

I wish I had the ability to just poo poo out a ton of words, would make my academic career a lot easier

shove a book up your rear end, that'll do the job

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



I would propose the POTUS's most recently tweeted videos, but I think linking snuff videos is a perma-bannable offence here.

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

CharlestheHammer posted:

Why not, if you want to exam shifting societal trends they make a great jumping on point, especially with how fairy tails themselves have changed over the years based on said trends.

I mean, it’s been a long time since I saw the Disney version of Sleeping Beauty, but don’t Aurora and Phillip meet in the woods before the ‘needle incident’, sing a song, dance a bit, and fall in love? Then the fairies all but guide him directly to her, knowing that true love’s kiss will break the spell? Something like that?

It’s not a perfect situation, but I’m pretty sure Disney already realized the original was pretty creepy and tried at least a little to fix it.

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Mammal Sauce posted:

How to get fired from the hospital:



She has nice glasses but she seems to be a very unpleasant person

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