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SonicRulez posted:I don't want to lose anybody, but if someone has to go, it can be Iron Man. It better not be Steve. If it is Steve, I want Sam Cap over Bucky Cap. I feel like any of the Guardians, Strange, Spider-Man, and BP are safe. I'd like Thor and Hulk back. I would be really sad to lose Wanda. Vision can go. They can have War Machine too. I don't think the Homecoming thing was so much a timeskip as a continuity error.
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Cap's totally gonna eat it. Dude's been wanting out for, like five years.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:05
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SonicRulez posted:I don't want to lose anybody, but if someone has to go, it can be Iron Man. It better not be Steve. If it is Steve, I want Sam Cap over Bucky Cap. I feel like any of the Guardians, Strange, Spider-Man, and BP are safe. I'd like Thor and Hulk back. I would be really sad to lose Wanda. Vision can go. They can have War Machine too. I'm also personally discounting characters we know there are sequels in the works for - Ant Man 2, Doctor Strange 2 (granted in this particular guy's case that's no guarantee he'll be alive at the start of the movie), and Guardians 3. Marvel's also alluded to Thor 4 already being in the planning stages. I really think it's down to Tony. His solo series is over, he kinda wants out of the franchise, he's metaphorically handed off the torch, he has a clear replacement in personality and temperament (Strange), and I think the MCU has done everything with Tony they can short of making him a father.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:08
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Teenage Fansub posted:Cap's totally gonna eat it. Dude's been wanting out for, like five years. Nah, he quickly changed his tune once he didn't have to work with Whedon or Ike Perlmutter any more.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:10
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mikeraskol posted:He's got the stone in his forehead when you see him as human. It looked more like a leftover scar at first watch, but I guess it could just be how they decided to portray the stone under his skin or whatever. I'm just convinced that Vision getting clowned is like the one of the first scenes to establish how powerful Thanos is.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:11
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Wouldn't really make much sense storytelling wise for thanos to come to earth, kill vision, take his gem, go back out into space, get the other gems, come back to earth to get more gems
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Nov 29, 2017 22:17
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RDJ is almost certainly gone. The other casualties are probably going to be lesser names.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:18
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At the end of Civil War (I think?) they pretty much said that the new faces were The Avengers going forward, so it'd be odd if they weren't prepared to dump almost all of the originals by Avengers 4.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:19
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Surprise twist, Loki dies after handing over the tesseract for failing thanos in avengers 1
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Nov 29, 2017 22:22
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Away all Goats posted:It looked more like a leftover scar at first watch, but I guess it could just be how they decided to portray the stone under his skin or whatever. Eh, I think it'll be a cold open with Thanos obliterating the Nova Corps to get the first stone. Then we'll go to present time where he attacks the Asgardians, and the tesseract is used to send Hulk to the Sanctum Sanctorum before Thor is beaten and Loki hands it over to Thanos. Then you probably have the Black Order going after Vision while Thanos goes to New York to attack and get the time stone. Then the remaining heroes all gather to protect Wakanda where the last infinity stone is.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:24
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site posted:Surprise twist, Loki dies after handing over the tesseract for failing thanos in avengers 1 I loving wish. They'll fire all of the Avengers before letting their default villain go. I remember going 'He's the bad guy again?' on the first Avengers.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:25
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I thought Hiddleston wanted out, though?
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Nov 29, 2017 22:26
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I could actually see them killing off Loki if they're really married to doing the Young Loki storyline (which coincidentally is probably the best single character storyline Marvel has had this century) moving forward. Incidentally Young Loki allows for Hiddleston to still play Loki, so it's the best of both worlds.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:27
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It will be legitimately sad for me if (when) Stark dies because him in the first Iron Man is what convinced me I might actually be watching and happy to see super hero movies for the next decade. But, it's ok for stories to make me sad. It better be good is all I'm saying.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:29
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Otoh they've already had multiple fake deaths/resurrections happen and we're dealing with the Inifinity Guantlet, so really anybody could "die" here and be fine again in a couple years. The only ones I feel for sure are going to 100% die are the Barton family, which sucks.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:35
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I like that Marvel seems to have enough faith in Black Panther/Wakanda that it appears to be one of the big setpieces for Infinity War.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:35
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Jamesman posted:I like that Marvel seems to have enough faith in Black Panther/Wakanda that it appears to be one of the big setpieces for Infinity War. Wakanda is home to the Soul stone, so it has to be on Thanos' dance card. Same reason we know Xandar, Knowhere, and the Sanctum Sanctorum are getting trashed.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:37
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Cythereal posted:Wakanda is home to the Soul stone, so it has to be on Thanos' dance card. Same reason we know Xandar, Knowhere, and the Sanctum Sanctorum are getting trashed. Yeah but we have evidence of a huge battle taking place in Wakanda and there being some strong focus there. It's not just glossed over as "Thanos hosed up Wakanda and took the stone."
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Nov 29, 2017 22:40
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Wheat Loaf posted:They (unless it was Sony by then; I don't remember) were also very keen on having a spin-off from Die Another Day which would've starred Halle Berry, but I think she was already committed to Catwoman by then. She was going to do it and later found out the studio cancelled the project in an interview.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:41
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Black Panther and Chadwick Boseman seem like the next IM in the sense of how crucial to the overall narrative and the way the character will tie the overall universe together, so it's not surprising, but it's still cool and progressive.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:42
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:Black Panther and Chadwick Boseman seem like the next IM in the sense of how crucial to the overall narrative and the way the character will tie the overall universe together, so it's not surprising, but it's still cool and progressive. It's surprising because it's a fuckton of black people in a major motion picture that isn't about their blackness.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:45
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Codependent Poster posted:Eh, I think it'll be a cold open with Thanos obliterating the Nova Corps to get the first stone. Then we'll go to present time where he attacks the Asgardians, and the tesseract is used to send Hulk to the Sanctum Sanctorum before Thor is beaten and Loki hands it over to Thanos. There's a scene in there where he takes the Aether one from the Collector as well, but I'd be willing to bet this is right.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:46
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Jamesman posted:It's surprising because it's a fuckton of black people in a major motion picture that isn't about their blackness. I know I'm jazzed about it.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:47
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Hell, I'm here for a bp led The Ultimates at the end of phase 5 As an aside today is bosemans birthday and that dude does not look 41 holy crap
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Nov 29, 2017 22:48
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site posted:Surprise twist, Loki dies after handing over the tesseract for failing thanos in avengers 1 If this means we might possibly get Kid Loki/Journey Into Mystery adapted on screen, I say do it! I dunno how they'd fit Leah of Hel into it, though.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:52
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I would honestly be shocked if any major character dies a permanent death in IW. I just don't get that sort of...tone...from the Russos' work in this universe.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:52
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I just think that it'd be lame if the titanic demigod villain who wields a legendary gauntled powered by cosmic powerstones that grant reality warping abilities fails to kill a normal middle aged man in a metal suit. Is Thanos the kind of guy that spares a foe because he's so insignificant? Cause that's the only way I can see Stark getting out of that confrontation alive.
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Nov 29, 2017 23:26
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Thanos always spares the person scripted to beat him with the aha! you bested yourself moment at the climax
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Nov 29, 2017 23:29
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Yea that's my worry. Thanos is absolutely NOT the kind of guy who'd be all 'puny worm you're not worthy of a death at the hands of death himself'. I could see it going where someone like Tony gets Thanos monologueing or something and uses that gap to escape but I can't see anyone getting iced in the MCU universe and it not being 'fixed' by the next movie. Thanos is an incredibly arrogant villain, so I can see that being used to avoid the 'why doesn't he just murder the guy right now' situation but a movie with Thanos in it not having at least a bit of a body count of characters that matter will feel kinda cheap.
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Nov 29, 2017 23:33
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Well, I mean that Thanos might kill someone, but they'll probably just get Infinity-Gauntleted back to life somehow. Or they're somehow clinging to life and gets brought back another way in the follow-up film. Or something along those lines. I don't really see Marvel ending Avengers 4 in any way other than a spectacular triumph for their superheroes. I could be wrong, etc etc.
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Nov 29, 2017 23:38
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If Thanos is the protagonist of the first one, maybe we get to see that his side of things is actually pretty reasonable maybe if CineD is right and Stark IS HYDRA, then Thanos is actually the hero and he wins!
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Nov 29, 2017 23:43
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fruit on the bottom posted:...Stark IS HYDRA... I'm sorry, what?
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Nov 29, 2017 23:47
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I eagerly await the crematorium planets
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Sgt. Politeness posted:I'm sorry, what? He’s an unrepentant capitalist, you see, which is the absolute worst, most villainous thing anyone could possibly be. Like HYDRA.
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Nov 29, 2017 23:50
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Thanos also only has two gems when he's fighting Stark there, I could see Tony popping one into his arc reactor
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Phylodox posted:He’s an unrepentant capitalist, you see, which is the absolute worst, most villainous thing anyone could possibly be. Like HYDRA. I mean where is the lie
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BrianWilly posted:Well, I mean that Thanos might kill someone, but they'll probably just get Infinity-Gauntleted back to life somehow. Or they're somehow clinging to life and gets brought back another way in the follow-up film. Or something along those lines. I don't really see Marvel ending Avengers 4 in any way other than a spectacular triumph for their superheroes. oh yea I'm 100% sure there's gonna be a 'death' or near death scare that gets undone before the credits roll or resolved with 'they'll live...but we don't know when they'll wake up' to set up for that stand alone movie. To be clear, I get it. The MCU is different, Avengers movies are the big crown jewels, you have to treat them 'right' for the audience and yea 'right' in those cases almost always means 'overwhelming and dramatic win for the good guys'
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Wait what's the release date on these? I'm seeing BP in March and Infinity in April but that doesn't sound right
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Sgt. Politeness posted:I'm sorry, what? I forget how the exact argument went but something something Tony Stark ends up unwittingly creating the same kind of philosophy and control that Hydra was about and ultimately he was the villain of the MCU. Also Ultron was either an example of this, or he represented Marxism. Somehow. Also Captain America is a libertarian? Give or take.
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Retro Futurist posted:Wait what's the release date on these? I'm seeing BP in March and Infinity in April but that doesn't sound right February 16th and May 4th.
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