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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Invincible enemies don't usually display damage numbers. Please attack the boss. I always did. It's still a lovely fight even if he's not technically invincible, and just not taking damage for a minute or two while you grind away at a shield. Even in a reasonable group, the boss is sitting at 100% HP for too long. The game is generally very responsive at what your group is doing, and until that shield goes down you have no feedback. He should have just been given an HP increase, and his damage up buff lasts x% of his HP bar. I think that minor thing just throws the flow of the fight off, and is just your first taste of a boring encounter.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I double weave and still flip my camera around a lot. It's very easy to do. I do, but the idea of clicking still is just strange 
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I remember when people used to throw a fit on that boss if a warrior or dark knight was tanking because paladins got a whole 5 extra seconds on their Awareness.
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When it comes to hotkeys I look at it with the philosophy that the only keybinds I actually need are for skills in combat. All the default hotkeys for menus and poo poo like that are a luxury. If I really need to I can click through menus to get to them. Here's my setup for SCH:  Q, E, R, F, G, Z, X, V, 1-4 for Bar 1. Control + <all of the above> for Bar 2. Shift + <all of the above> for Bar 3. Alt + <all of the above> for Bar 4. Bars are 4x3 except for Alt which is 2x6. Also, did they change the level boosts from one per account / character? I was looking at the Mog Station when I re-subbed and it looks like I can purchase one even though I already used it on NIN? kung fu jive fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I remember when people used to throw a fit on that boss if a warrior or dark knight was tanking because paladins got a whole 5 extra seconds on their Awareness. I'm going to call bullshit on this because this would imply pubbies know what tank cooldowns are.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I always did. It's still a lovely fight even if he's not technically invincible, and just not taking damage for a minute or two while you grind away at a shield. Even in a reasonable group, the boss is sitting at 100% HP for too long. The game is generally very responsive at what your group is doing, and until that shield goes down you have no feedback. He should have just been given an HP increase, and his damage up buff lasts x% of his HP bar. It's a case where multiple hp bars would have been a good solution in this game's UI could handle it. But the same could be said of a lot of fights with hp-based phase transitions.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I always did. It's still a lovely fight even if he's not technically invincible, and just not taking damage for a minute or two while you grind away at a shield. Even in a reasonable group, the boss is sitting at 100% HP for too long. The game is generally very responsive at what your group is doing, and until that shield goes down you have no feedback. He should have just been given an HP increase, and his damage up buff lasts x% of his HP bar. Better yet, rework Stoneskin just a little. Just slap a 3-digit number underneath representing the % of HP left in the thing, and when you hit it with pop-up damage numbers on, have it say something like "0! (-12500!)" if you crit a Fire IV or something, like when it says (-20% Parried!) when you block something.
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Bremma posted:I initially played with controller but even with all the expanded cross bars, I was running out of space for skills on MNK and SAM (and forget trying to heal). I moved to keyboard and mouse a month ago, and I use 1-5 and ERF and ALT+ those keys for my main skills (eg my normal SAM attacks are 1-4, Alt 1-3 for Keiten and 3rd step moves, ERF for AOE, and DPS on 1-3 for A, 4 for Essential Dignity, ST, Alt+1-4 for Cards, ERF and alt for various heals and Esuna) and tend to mouse target over targeting with the F keys. Anything else I tend to click as it's normally a special need (eg self heals, aggro drop, limit break, stance change, etc). I'm pretty happy with it. I wish I could use CTRL and SHIFT for more space, but my tiny hands make those harder to reach reliabily and still be able to use WSAD to move about. Though for heals I may look into mouse-over macros since I use mouse to target half the time. I'm a monk and people might already do this but I set up two nearly identical hot bars just slightly tweaked for AoE or single target. Arm of the Destroyer/ Rockbreaker slotted in for dragon kick/demolish and goad replacing form shift as I usually don't flick over until the fight starts. You never really need to overlap most AoE skills with single target skills but keeping two similar hot bars helps it flow better and feel more familiar then double tapping while remaining in my original hot bar for me. So I sit in my AoE hot bar for most of the dungeon without having to double tap for any skills then just press R1 to go to my single target hot bar when it's boss time or when the trash is almost done. I still have to keep stuff like PB, mantra and limit break on the expanded cross bars though. ParliamentOfDogs fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:Is that the fight where everyone who isn't a healer can just stand around picking their noses and you'll still win, because he loses like 20,000 health a second? I had a Diabolos Hollow where every single living person had -50% damage and everyone just gave up and stopped raising people in one of the alliances, and we still cleared after like 10 minutes of him very slowly wilting away. That is a very nice book
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Now that engage is nerfed, is there another best DPS for command missions?
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Two Archers are still ridiculous for Squadron.
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Revenge Twofold is one of the best tracks in the game, period The way it transitions into the main theme of the game after the HW theme gives it a 'this is a super important song for a super important fight' feel maybe even beyond Nidhogg, which is why its hilarious to fight book bird with it as the backdrop
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Invincible enemies don't usually display damage numbers. Please attack the boss. Cruise Chaser in A11N goes invulnerable for a bit when he's doing the shield thing, but he still displays damage numbers (and you could combo off of him and trigger on-hit effects, as opposed to bosses where it just shows "INVULNERABLE" where it acts like you didn't hit them at all). Also, now I'm curious if Wildfire counts shielded damage. I assume it doesn't, because shields work against Allagan Field which is basically the same thing. Farg posted:Revenge Twofold is one of the best tracks in the game, period It's bizarre to me that the generic flight theme is a remix of Primogenitor, which I always associate with Midgardsormr and Tiamat. vOv fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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I was puff-puffed. 
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It beggars belief that they put in a puff-puff cutscene but no Slime model to do it with. unless it's some copyright thing
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A. Beaverhausen posted:That is a very nice book Ethica (and its SMN sister Aurora) is one of the best tomes in the game if you have the stomach to hellgrind Castrum Abania as a healer. Hope you like getting yelled at because no one kills the hands on the last boss, or stands on Number XXIII's pillars, or does the elemental mechanic in that fight. Speaking of hellgrinds, Skalla finally gave me my shoes. I earned those, after two runs where neither DPS was breaking 2k on boss fights.  I decided to give thanks to our One True Goddess Halone. i just really like how this picture turned out okay  bonus pretty pictures if you're bored
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 Mighty Thunderbolt Doman Steel Armet of Maiming Proto Ultima Mesh Replica Dreadwyrm Vambraces of Maiming [basically whatever legs, they get hidden by the boots] Augmented Slipstream Sabatons of Maiming All gear is dyed Bone White, though I redyed the hat Soot Black because it has some natural yellow-ish ornamentation on it anyway. DRG at 70 is really nice. I think I'm going to keep at it for a while. Also, does anyone know a good trick to get the camera to a perfect right angle? I just click it around until it goes, but sometimes it goes back and forth between like 149 and 153. vOv fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:
Eh, I can’t judge people for giving Dark Knights the most twelve-year-old edgy names. I mean, they’re Dark Knights. They literally weaponise twelve- year-old edge.
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Nov 30, 2017 12:47
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Always shame bad names. Especially if you have one ←
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Two Archers are still ridiculous for Squadron.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Always shame bad names. On further thought, it probably is a good idea to guilt-trip people who run off guilt. You might even get some extra DPS out of it.
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vOv posted:It's bizarre to me that the generic flight theme is a remix of Primogenitor, which I always associate with Midgardsormr and Tiamat. It makes sense if you think about who you get as a flying mount during the story 
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vOv posted:Cruise Chaser in A11N goes invulnerable for a bit when he's doing the shield thing, but he still displays damage numbers (and you could combo off of him and trigger on-hit effects, as opposed to bosses where it just shows "INVULNERABLE" where it acts like you didn't hit them at all). I think when the Haukke Manor boss goes invincible and you just get a bunch of 0's pop up if you keep trying to hit? But there's also like, some tethers in the game you need to split and some tethers you need to stack so I guess I'm not surprised nothings consistent.
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Haukke Manor's Lady Amandine has a stone skin. I believe Cu Chulainn (spelling) in Void Ark also has two split for physical and magical, as do some adds in Turn 4 one each of either physical or magical. Those all show 0 damage when hit. Diabolos in Dun Scaith obviously has a stoneskin too. There are other bosses who get a straight up buff called Invincibility, like Garuda. I don't remember A11N's but they do tend to have some consistency in behaviour when it's listed as a stone skin as opposed to invincibility, though I doubt it's 100% consistent. The important thing I find is that stoneskin ones tend to progress combos where invincibles don't, so you can refresh GL3 on Cu Chuthirdbossofvoidark e: 
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So I've finally got to Stormblood. There's so much I love about this game. Red Mage plays like an absolute dream, I actually feel invested in the characters and enjoyed basically all the Heavensward content. So anything important to bear in mind as I run through Stormblood main content?
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Just wait until you get to do RDM LB3... 😎
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Dreadwroth posted:Just wait until you get to do RDM LB3... RDM LB3 is my favorite part of O3S.
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:Ethica (and its SMN sister Aurora) is one of the best tomes in the game if you have the stomach to hellgrind Castrum Abania as a healer. Hope you like getting yelled at because no one kills the hands on the last boss, or stands on Number XXIII's pillars, or does the elemental mechanic in that fight. Amusingly, I have the other two big bits of the Skallic healing gear. I decided to go as tall as I could. 
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Haukke Manor's Lady Amandine has a stone skin. I believe Cu Chulainn (spelling) in Void Ark also has two split for physical and magical, as do some adds in Turn 4 one each of either physical or magical. Those all show 0 damage when hit. Diabolos in Dun Scaith obviously has a stoneskin too. Cloud of Darkness during the storm phase as well. It's pretty easy to just burn right through it. Ideally you should have melee stay on the boss while ranged dps deals with the storms, but lol at the idea of pubbies adapting to massively outgearing content. Same goes for Choo Choo, you can pretty much ignore the mechanics and just burn through his stoneskin. The Pains of Meracydia in T13 got an alternating physical or magical stoneskin, and while you could theoretically burn through them, they swapped soon enough that it wasn't worth it. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Ibblebibble posted:Amusingly, I have the other two big bits of the Skallic healing gear. I decided to go as tall as I could. I have done 27 runs of skala trying to get the healer set and all I've gotten is the pants. Please kill me.
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Get a load of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlwHLs9Ve1g
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When are they implementing the furniture from the design contest I want some of that poo poo now 
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apostateCourier posted:RDM LB3 is my favorite part of O3S. Nah the best part is spamming <se.6> to get a healer’s attention for a raise before that. (Because you displaced into the weeds)
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I investigated the Leviathan Hard elemental converter timing last night. Essentially it appears that most of the time you should use it as soon as it's ready. However, it appears that occasionally, Leviathan does a dive where he rushes across the platform before performing the Tidal Wave. I couldn't see a rhyme or reason to when he does this health-wise but it appears that sometimes he queues up the rush, surfaces for a moment, and then immediately dives back down for Tidal Wave. I think there might be a visual indicator that differentiates between him diving for Tidal Wave vs. the other reasons he dives for. I'll continue to investigate when I have downtime.
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hobbesmaster posted:Nah the best part is spamming <se.6> to get a healer’s attention for a raise before that. (Because you displaced into the weeds) Of all the things that have killed me in that fight, that has not been one of them. I'd learned how not to do that during my DRG days.
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As a healer I couldn't fathom clicking skills because I need clicks to manage targeting. I dunno, maybe some people have worked out a screen layout for themselves that keeps the party list and the skill buttons near each other without cluttering their actual view of the fight, but I haven't. Also, while it is certainly POSSIBLE to to do well in the game while only clicking skills, I think it's actually a bit harder unless you're some sort of wizard with a mouse.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I have done 27 runs of skala trying to get the healer set and all I've gotten is the pants. Please kill me. I've run the dungeon 3-10 times a week since 4.1 hit for the DRG chest piece. Haven't seen it yet. I really wish they'd add the "guaranteed drop" thing from levelling SB dungeons to all dungeons. I can hold on to a bag of DRG gear for a finite length of time if I know it'll eventually lead to the drop I want. Rosalind posted:I investigated the Leviathan Hard elemental converter timing last night. Essentially it appears that most of the time you should use it as soon as it's ready. However, it appears that occasionally, Leviathan does a dive where he rushes across the platform before performing the Tidal Wave. I couldn't see a rhyme or reason to when he does this health-wise but it appears that sometimes he queues up the rush, surfaces for a moment, and then immediately dives back down for Tidal Wave. Remind me to never do an effort post about mechanics in thread again. About as successful as telling people how to perform them in mentor roulette, I guess.
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