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Spinster posted:I have no friends irl If you're standing in a line at the grocery store or wherever, turn to the person behind you and make small talk. I make it a point to speak to at least one person I don't know everyday. I have met some of my best friends this way.
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Wizard Master posted:If you're standing in a line at the grocery store or wherever, turn to the person behind you and make small talk. I make it a point to speak to at least one person I don't know everyday. I have met some of my best friends this way. But I don't want to make a giant mistake and step in people's personal space.
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Worst case scenario, they'll just think you're crazy. Do you ever remember all the wackjobs you meet on public transit and in malls? Not really, not unless they do something memorable.
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Spinster posted:Deal. Another SA success story.
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I remember there used to occasionally be weird gross cartoon porn threads in GBS just so that everyone could be like "Hey check out how weird and gross this cartoon porn is!"
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Ah the good old days, when an admin concluded a shouting match with a grieving mother with a reference to said woman's poison womb making heaven too loving crowded Now the admin is lecturing everyone else on harassment and inclusiveness without any irony, and all is well.
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Early on, the rule was that a one-line response was bannable. You had to put more effort in than just a sentence. Image Macros and Catchphrases (now called 'memes', collectively) were also bannable. Most trolls were just idiots that didn't know to lurk and couldn't control their urge to interject, so charged tenbux to get in the door and banning everyone that posted a one-line response made for a pretty effective signal-to-noise ratio and revenue stream.
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Uglycat posted:so charged tenbux to get in the door and banning everyone that posted a one-line response made for a pretty effective signal-to-noise ratio and revenue stream. In retrospect, trying to monetize the site's worst posters as Lowtax's personal paypigs in some bizarre online findom scheme may not have been the healthiest choice long-term.
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Bedlamdan posted:In retrospect, trying to monetize the site's worst posters as Lowtax's personal paypigs in some bizarre online findom scheme may not have been the healthiest choice long-term. Its still hilarious. Kind of like sexline work. Talk dirty to me baby, $10 a post.
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Wizard Master posted:If you're standing in a line at the grocery store or wherever, turn to the person behind you and make small talk. I make it a point to speak to at least one person I don't know everyday. I have met some of my best friends this way. This is either a lie or you are insane or you look like a movie star.
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u sp33k l33t br0 posted:I remember there used to occasionally be weird gross cartoon porn threads in GBS just so that everyone could be like "Hey check out how weird and gross this cartoon porn is!" it was a regular front page feature! zack parsons (iirc?) reviewed atrocious cartoon porn, generally in very unkind terms - the very same cartoon porn that was advertised on the site itself! because for a long time, the only advertiser that would touch forums like SA and 4chan was jlist.com (tagline: "your friend in japan!"), a site that resells japanese crap (mostly toys, porn and porn toys) at greatly inflated prices in exchange for a site in english and prices in US dollars (as the only alternative was, and mostly still is, paying in yens and blindly navigating japanese-only sites)
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hackbunny posted:it was a regular front page feature! zack parsons (iirc?) reviewed atrocious cartoon porn, generally in very unkind terms - the very same cartoon porn that was advertised on the site itself! because for a long time, the only advertiser that would touch forums like SA and 4chan was jlist.com (tagline: "your friend in japan!"), a site that resells japanese crap (mostly toys, porn and porn toys) at greatly inflated prices in exchange for a site in english and prices in US dollars (as the only alternative was, and mostly still is, paying in yens and blindly navigating japanese-only sites) Wasn't there drama over kiddie porn in one of those reviews but the admins doggedly kept it because according to them people were only pretending to be outraged?  memories
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The OP is seriously delusional about the impact they've had on... Well, anything really. Which is a shame because the idea behind this thread it great, it's just the weird grandstanding that's making it cringeworthy. Helldump didn't go to poo poo because of infighting, by the way. Well I mean, partially maybe, but the infighting itself was caused by the search feature imploding. Much of the content in Helldump was generated by searching for keywords and finding red flags of weird creepos. When search broke, the content well dried up considerably so all the threads were about fairly normal but maybe just a little bit odd posters. Not really hilarious material.
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Milky Moor posted:Wrong. The best part is how a bunch of those Helldump posters, having discarded their pasts, have gone on to start lives and Twitter accounts as people creating Online Abuse Prevention Networks, selling books about being harassed online, and such. Not true. Boniface is maybe the best example and it didn't play out like you're saying.
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EvilJoven posted:Jesus, people. We're all trapped on this lovely little rock together and we need to lighten up a bit.
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Testikles posted:I don't know how true it is for other LAN threads but the Toronto one is very active and we all meet up in real life regularly. So we have our own insular drama but it is balanced out with physical presence. I'd think that communities like the LAN ones are generally healthy communities, in large parts because they are grounded in real life stuff, and like you say, balanced out with physical presence. Communitiest can develop in healthy ways, or become frightfully weird regardless of what they are centered around, but if the starting point of one community is centered around something like a LAN community discussing local stuff happening in their town and meeting up irl to have fun, and another community is centered around playing some video game as effectively as possible in an absurdly specific way, then despite there being overlap, you are drawing communities members from different pools, and if you've got a community that wants to share gross and sexualized cartoons, then you've got yet another pool. hackbunny posted:it was a regular front page feature! zack parsons (iirc?) reviewed atrocious cartoon porn, generally in very unkind terms - the very same cartoon porn that was advertised on the site itself! because for a long time, the only advertiser that would touch forums like SA and 4chan was jlist.com (tagline: "your friend in japan!"), a site that resells japanese crap (mostly toys, porn and porn toys) at greatly inflated prices in exchange for a site in english and prices in US dollars (as the only alternative was, and mostly still is, paying in yens and blindly navigating japanese-only sites) Mock stuff can be fun, but it also easily makes for weird mini-communities. Like, I think you mentioned some cartoon thread that got shut down, and somehow you described a person posting diaper fur porn as being less of a moron than the person reporting it, and despite that mini-community probably being fun, then from an outside perspective that sounds like a mini-community that was unable to self-police. I don't want to poo poo on mock-content, because I like stuff like ALOD, Weekend Web and the various threads that point out stupid poo poo, but I'd like to gawk at weirdos without people being weirdly obsessive, hateful or "ironically" delving into the subject matter. SA is an on-line Ripley's Belive it or Not Odditorium, basically, and I like for the exhibits to be on the exhibit side of things, and to be able to look at the Lobster-boy without the person next to me screaming about how they want to gently caress or murder him, basically. I can understand getting tried of the "morality brigade", but at least attempting to adhere by "safari rules" like "don't touch the poop", and calling out goons who eke into being weirdly obsessive about their targets is good. Like, Chris Chan or Ulilililila might be fascinating, but if people end up documenting what shirts they wear and are strategizing on how to insert themselves into their lives then they are way beyond just looking at weird and funny stuff. Spinster posted:I wish more than anything we could get more women posters, there are so many thread ideas/ different subjects/we all miss out on because the audience is all guys. There is a lot of women on SA, is my impression. I got my account when I was 15 iirc, and I remember having the notion that you'd have to be a dumb rear end to share any kind of personal information on SA, especially about being a woman, because it just seemed to get people negative attention, but that has changed for the better, I think. There have been some lovely stories, though, and every so often stuff still pops up, but the current SA staff appears interested in dealing with it when it happens. An imo funny story is how a lurker dropped by a long goonette chat thread, and posted a spread sheet where he ranked the posters based on boob-size based on pictures he had saved from selfies and such, and when someone called him a weird moron, he tried to appease that person by bumping her up on the boob score-board. Less funny stories are just legit harassment, like a teenage poster who received phone calls from goons, who would just lay into her. This is something that has changed for the better over time, I think, in part because women are less of a novelty, but also just along with the general perception of on-line harassment receiving more push-back. Spinster posted:I have no friends irl Who What Now posted:Ill be your friend Spinster posted:Deal. *blows police-whistle* BREAK IT UP YOU TWO! Move along. a hot gujju bhabhi posted:The OP is seriously delusional about the impact they've had on... Well, anything really. Which is a shame because the idea behind this thread it great, it's just the weird grandstanding that's making it cringeworthy. I think it is super interesting how communities form and develop, but I also think that SA history is just SA history, and that infusing meaning into SA by linking SA to any kind of wider political discourse or deeper and more meaningful cultural influence is making connections that just do not exist. SA has contributed to a lot of neat and cool stuff, and some fantastically stupid projects, as well, but I just don't recognize the kind of far-reaching influence and internet-culture movements that some people describe either. It is still neat to hear those takes though imo, and of the kind of early-internet optimism that older users seems to have had.
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Bedlamdan posted:Wasn't there drama over kiddie porn in one of those reviews but the admins doggedly kept it because according to them people were only pretending to be outraged? doesn't ring a bell, but I do remember that: a review of an x-com-like tactical squad game with cute girl soldiers vs tentacle monsters, that included a line to the effect of "there isn't enough tentacle rape in the tentacle rape game" and he was right, in the sense that the tentacle rape porn aspect of the game was poorly tacked on top of legit gameplay - but that kind of ironic edgy statement wouldn't fly nowadays zack took suggestions on what games to review next, and goons gleefully looked for the absolute worst ones just to make him suffer, culminating in a vile piss/scat/toilet fetish game that zack nevertheless bravely played all the way through and reviewed. he also reviewed the worst porn movies he could find (some of which, again, published by the site's own advertisers), and iirc this earned him the "honor" of reviewing tragically successful goon project swap.avi both of these features ("awful anime" and "horrors of porn" respectively) are defunct but are still archived on the front page. aside from the "dated" edgy sensibilities I think the most interesting part is how front page writers openly mocked one of the site's sources of income
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Ah the good old days, when an admin concluded a shouting match with a grieving mother with a reference to said woman's poison womb making heaven too loving crowded Oh man, I remember that. That was one of the most hosed up, horrible, disgusting things you could ever say to anyone. It was hilarious
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a hot gujju bhabhi posted:Not true. Boniface is maybe the best example and it didn't play out like you're saying.
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SA has been a weird ride for me. I started the internet with the intention of forever being hidden and lost on it, and I plan to end it that way, and apparently this has paid off for me in spades. I joined back in '03 with my cousin's help, after lurking since 2002, and there was something that felt cohesive and apotheotic about the entire place. The rest of the internet at the time was a disparaging collection of colorful little islands full of weird, loud, enthusiastic dipshits. SA made a difference by collecting the dipshits in once place with every topic, and blasting the ones who get too gently caress headed, which is why I'm still here a horrifying 15 years later, as the internet quickly dissolves away into another money-maker failed venture in human self-destruction. But yeah the early days, I feel, actually were often as good as biased memory recollects. But in the sense that, in the day to day people were dumb boring shitheads, but there wasn't quite the same edge of malice in every single topic and overall societal pressures and fears, and before Helldump. You could laugh a little easier and more often. I lurked in majority because talking online is a bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad idea, and got to silently watch a lot of the fun stuff that went down. I still remember Chaos Night, from right before my 2004 discovery of TG, which became a regular haunt for me. It was amazing to play games that were finally curated enough to be fun, instead of the disgusting ruin that all face-to-face games had been. I even played in a Metroid game! My first genuine campaign finish as a player. I even allow myself the single solitary ego-assumption that Prime 3 was inspired by one of our scenes. That was part of SA's overall magic I loved - a sensation of "Hey, all humans are loving dumb and we all inspire each other online in bits and tics, all in this together" - I trucked there for a few years and then dropped out, since TG and SA was starting its rapid shift to a more political environment and a lot of the regulars vanished. Though funny enough, a lot of those regulars are also coming back now since... there is sincerely nowhere else on the internet I want to go, as bad as this place has been. It's not loving safe out there anymore and I'd rather be an incorrigible rear end in a top hat with you all here than fall screaming into the increasingly chromatic noise of social media. It's such a weird and unprecedented thing. I fully believe SA will survive despite its best efforts, and that we're going to be growing older together as we post on and ever on. Think of that. We're among the first digital communities. And we survived. We have an actual cohesive identity and ethos that goes past just the subforum ponds we hide in. Does this amount to a lot? No. But it still amounts to a legacy of people together for nearly 20 years, all of it still there to look back on as well as archives and threads like this allow. We get to live something eerie that few other people before everyone got online can understand or care for. Nothing else will ever be like SA for me.
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More XJAKK from when he had a birthday rampage: Goons were responsible for more than just   and funding a scat-swap video.We also found out who MaxCat "Katherine.jpg" was:   I believe we also found out what happened to Super Hornio Bros 2?
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's because this website kicks rear end. Yup.
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Video Nasty posted:I believe we also found out what happened to Super Hornio Bros 2? Sigh... no not really. The idiot who thought he'd uncovered it (me) ruined Christmas one year by getting parts 1 and 2 mixed up and not realizing it until after the painfully long wait for high-rez digitization. It was an embarrassing and stupid mistake that definitely knocked me down a peg or two. Thank goodness. When I first saw this thread (good work OP I like effortposting) I immediately thought "oh good a chance to brag about the SA poo poo I've been around for and vastly over-inflate its importance", but after reading what's been said so far I realize that's exactly the kind of gross behavior this place is really good at stamping down. This is a big part of what has kept me here after more than a decade. I joined up to compete in photoshop phridays back when I was in undergrad studying something that turned out to be worthless (photography, graduated '08, I can still hear the gods laughing), and then got my first "serious" graphic design clients after school by exploiting my contact list here. Ended up working for the front page for about 5 years doing illustrations for over 50 articles under the leadership of Garbage Day, which laugh all you want but it actually paid the bills and was super fun and has got me more than one good job since. When GD's tenure officially ended was around the time I gave up Facebook and Twitter permanently, and came very close to no longer posting anywhere. But SA just would not let go. It's been my only online socialization for... gently caress, almost 4 years now? And I don't miss the other stuff at all. The point is well made that these forums are not kind to project starting "try-hards" which I definitely fall under the description of ("cringey try-hard" is a particularly on-point variation), but it's honestly a strength not a weakness. I was such an insufferable prick coming out of college that what I really needed, more than any amount of big-client-names or financial success, was to have the hot air knocked out of me, and the goons are excellent at it. There is very little tolerance for ego here, which is so incredibly different than the rest of the web- Facebook just oozes thumbs-up symbols at you all day and Twitter does everything it can to make you feel like the literary equivalent of a fart is a real accomplishment. Social media is crammed to the gills with people who will say "great job!" as an instinct and not really provide you with any feedback whatsoever, or if they do it's just the same feedback everyone else in the echo chamber gives you. Great job! Reminds me of X! So cute! Like! This place is not like that at all. I'm astonished by how many different viewpoints I see expressed in threads by people who are actually trying. Serious discussions here will regularly shake my convictions about points and leave me curious to know more, and this is nowhere more true than with art/creative/projects threads. Those without stamina need not apply to post new Let's Plays, CineD is not a glory-hole for indie directors like a hell of a lot of other film forums, and if you waltz into Thunderdome expecting some suburbanite wannabe writer's circle-jerk you can sign up for on Meetup and then blow off when you feel like it you are in for a nasty surprise. You have to make actual efforts to garner praise from this audience, and not just the "I'm gonna sperg out this week and push real hard and forget about it when there's a Steam sale" kind of effort. More than any other online community I've ever been a part of people here call you on your bullshit openly and correctly, and that is 100% the best thing a young artist can get in their diet. Thank goodness for this pit of trolls sharpening their teeth on the skulls of the unwary, it's the kind of gauntlet every young professional needs to face to get over themselves. There are still cool projects coming out of these forums and I still have faith in them as a place to foster great and amazing things, almost as the last place to do it. The modern web really is a garbage-fire and our little tiny corner may be garbage, but it's extinguished, legacy garbage, and it's so rare. I don't want to overstate SA's importance, The Internet Makes You Stupid is not the one true path or whatever. But the fact that this place, with all its intricacies and nuances, is still here in the corporate poo poo-hole internet era really is remarkable, and possibly a singular opportunity for... something. I don't know what and I don't know how long we'll survive to keep trying, but I'll be here starting stupid arts projects right to the bitter end. Who knows what we might yet achieve in this unique place at this unique time?
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's because this website kicks rear end. no thanks to you
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I mean look just have a yearly donation drive I will loving pay into it, Moses loving the burning bush dont dump is out into that cold mad HELL
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Motherfucker posted:no thanks to you
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Black August posted:I mean look just have a yearly donation drive I will loving pay into it, Moses loving the burning bush dont dump is out into that cold mad HELL Agreed. I'm poor as hell and I'd still gladly put up another  if it meant keeping the pin in the grenade.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Lmao this is salty as poo poo I'll sass you good you lil' bitch.
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Motherfucker posted:I'll sass you good you lil' bitch.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:For content: thanks, I never read or looked at YCS even though I was around back then and I always wondered what the deal was. people don't talk about it the same way they do helldump or LF
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FactsAreUseless posted:You mad because I banned you for talking about shooting the president? what year is this
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Motherfucker posted:what year is this Talking about killing the president is still bannable even in TYOOL 2017
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If the secret service seizes the forums server over my shitposts I will laugh all the way to Guantanamo Bay
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FactsAreUseless posted:Lmao this is salty as poo poo Not an emptyquote, just calling attention to how perfect the animated Grinch grin is when paired with this post. Like a fine wine complimented by the perfect cheese.
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the most interesting time in SA history to me is fyad after social media became a thing but before weird twitter blew up. you had people like Ingwit doing the Must Love Horses thread, and the Wikipedia vandalism thing that ended up in someone comitting suicide. really intense mean spirited trolling, but done by very very funny and smart people and at a key point in the internet's transformation.
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Motherfucker posted:If the secret service seizes the forums server over my shitposts I will laugh all the way to Guantanamo Bay You wouldn't even be the first person to get a visit from the secret service for saying dumb criminal poo poo on SA.
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