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cheetah7071 posted:I just saw TOS Omega Glory At the time Star Trek started airing, most network lineups were still mostly rural shows and westerns that deliberately ignored what was going on the world, and portrayed an idyllic (and only for white people) world. CBS was running an Andy Griffith spinoff called "Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C." that was set on a Marine Corps base that made no mention of the then-ongoing Vietnam War. And Star Trek was among the few shows on the air at the time to really acknowledge social issues, along with The Twilight Zone and the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. And the Omega Glory was written in 1965, barely a year after Goldwater's campaign and when Birchers were laying the groundwork for the southern strategy. And yet it wasn't shot until December 1967, where it had relatively few edits from what was originally written, and then it aired on March 1st 1968, only a short time after the Tet Offensive, Cronkite calling the war "unwinnable" and the infamous photo of Nguyễn Văn Lém being summarily executed in the street. And it has this message about a twisted version of America that was so wrapped up in trying to get one over on the drat commies that they had regressed into cavemen.
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Been rewatching DS9, only skipped The Muse so far... I just got to Chrysalis, and almost skipped it... boy, do I wish I had.
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thexerox123 posted:Been rewatching DS9, only skipped The Muse so far... I just got to Chrysalis, and almost skipped it... boy, do I wish I had. I skipped it on my last rewatch and feel totally okay with it. I'm not sure who the target audience for that episode is, but I don't think I want to know them.
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Mike the TV posted:I skipped it on my last rewatch and feel totally okay with it. I'm not sure who the target audience for that episode is, but I don't think I want to know them. It’s me. I’m the one who likes Chrysalis.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:43
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I don't remember what episode is that. Is that the poetry teen sex vampire?
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HD DAD posted:It’s me. I’m the one who likes Chrysalis. Whyyyy I don't want to watch Awakenings but with a gross unethical doctor.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:45
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I don't remember what episode is that. Is that the poetry teen sex vampire? No, it's the one with the other augmented people, but they all have various issues that Bashir doesn't have. The sex crazed one, the autistic one, the catatonic one, etc. Poetry Teen Sex Vampire (great band name) was The Muse. Another awful episode, but way more watchable.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:47
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WampaLord posted:No, it's the one with the other augmented people, but they all have various issues that Bashir doesn't have. The sex crazed one, the autistic one, the catatonic one, etc. That one's statistical probabilities not chrysalis Not that I remember which one chrysalis is
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Nov 30, 2017 19:50
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Chrysalis is the episode where Bashir fixes the genetically enhanced lady who is stuck in her own mind with surgery, then thinks it okay to immediately date her. It is not a good episode.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:51
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thexerox123 posted:Whyyyy Because I’m easily entertained by the augments and Bashir’s gross desperation for someone to love him. It’s definitely a guilty pleasure.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:52
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WampaLord posted:No, it's the one with the other augmented people, but they all have various issues that Bashir doesn't have. The sex crazed one, the autistic one, the catatonic one, etc. Oh yeah I remember that one woman had the crippling disability of sexual agency
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Nov 30, 2017 19:53
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I actually rather like the augments, they are entertaining. But Bashir is really creepy and unethical in Chrysalis.
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cheetah7071 posted:That one's statistical probabilities not chrysalis No, it's the second one with them, they were in more than one. Al Borland Corp. posted:Oh yeah I remember that one woman had the crippling disability of sexual agency The writers are clearly trying to portray her as a nymphomaniac.
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Bashir truly is Geordi 2.0 with women - he’s charming enough to get in there just enough to really wreak havoc and hurt people because he needs to get space laid and is a total creep about it.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:56
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HD DAD posted:Bashir truly is Geordi 2.0 with women - he’s charming enough to get in there just enough to really wreak havoc and hurt people because he needs to get space laid and is a total creep about it. This is untrue because Bashir consistently gets laid, space creepiness aside.
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Nov 30, 2017 19:58
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I was always mildly annoyed that they didn't go the route hinted in their first episode, that catatonic lady was crushing on Jack (or was it vice versa?)
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Nov 30, 2017 20:00
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MisterBibs posted:I was always mildly annoyed that they didn't go the route hinted in their first episode, that catatonic lady was crushing on Jack (or was it vice versa?) Yeah, Bashir says something like "I know that you like Jack, I see the way you look at him when you think that nobody's watching." to her. Not addressed at all in Chrysalis. Also, the Do Re Mi musical number was bad and toooo long.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:04
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MisterBibs posted:I was always mildly annoyed that they didn't go the route hinted in their first episode, that catatonic lady was crushing on Jack (or was it vice versa?) Vice versa, Jack loved catatonic lady. That's why sexy lady called him a coward, because he wasn't true to himself or catatonic lady about his feelings for her. edit: ^^ both? not a good look for Bashir in any case 
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Nov 30, 2017 20:05
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HD DAD posted:Bashir truly is Geordi 2.0 with women - he’s charming enough to get in there just enough to really wreak havoc and hurt people because he needs to get space laid and is a total creep about it. You'd think with Quark's right there it wouldn't be a problem.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:06
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thexerox123 posted:Also, the Do Re Mi musical number was bad and toooo long. DS9 is at its worst when it goes full starry-eyed whimsy. Like Kira dancing (and breathing) in Odo's sentient dust motes
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Nov 30, 2017 20:08
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Ben Nerevarine posted:DS9 is at its worst when it goes full starry-eyed whimsy. Like Kira dancing (and breathing) in Odo's sentient dust motes What about that time someone on the production team got super into DBZ and everyone’s suddenly wearing scouters and Pah-Wraiths are having kamehameha duels.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:19
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HD DAD posted:What about that time someone on the production team got super into DBZ and everyone’s suddenly wearing scouters and Pah-Wraiths are having kamehameha duels. I recently saw that episode after having completely forgotten it and woo boy you're not wrong 
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Nov 30, 2017 20:23
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I remember seeing something on YouTube about that episode; evidently it was really hard to film because if you tell two actors to just stare at each other and grimace, they will start getting giggly fits for the rest of the shoot. Hell, isn't that episode kinda the instigator for most of the Prophet/Wraith stuff? Everything happens because Sisko wouldn't let it resolve.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:32
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Peachfart posted:I actually rather like the augments, they are entertaining. But Bashir is really creepy and unethical in Chrysalis. I didn't like Jack, but that's probably the intent.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:32
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MisterBibs posted:I remember seeing something on YouTube about that episode; evidently it was really hard to film because if you tell two actors to just stare at each other and grimace, they will start getting giggly fits for the rest of the shoot. Actually Kai Wynn hosed it up. Sisko was willing to let it play out (at the expense of the station, his friend, and even his son).
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Nov 30, 2017 20:35
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Ben Nerevarine posted:Actually Kai Wynn hosed it up. Sisko was willing to let it play out (at the expense of the station, his friend, and even his son). It was a good reference to Abraham being told by God to sacrifice his son. It showed that Sisko had faith, and Winn had none.
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Ben Nerevarine posted:Actually Kai Wynn hosed it up. Sisko was willing to let it play out (at the expense of the station, his friend, and even his son). That was the thing. He had more faith in the Prophets than she did.
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Winn is a great character, but i feel like having her working with the Pah Wraiths was a mistake
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FlamingLiberal posted:i feel like...the Pah Wraiths [were] a mistake
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Oh yeah, it was Winn, my bad. FlamingLiberal posted:Winn is a great character, but i feel like having her working with the Pah Wraiths was a mistake Eh, given her character, it made sense. She's been working in her planets religion for her whole life, but having this emptiness that comes from never getting the one-on-one time with her Gods that seemingly everyone else gets. It's compounded when some alien schlub gets chosen as her God's emissary, so she's got extra salt. But the Wraith? They respect her. They give her one-on-one time (I think?) that she never got from the Prophets. She's so desperate for that, that she'll sign on the dotted line with the Enemy.
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Heh, DeSoto was just mentioned in a S7 episode of DS9. The Greatest Gen guys are going to be so excited when they get to it. 
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Ben Nerevarine posted:I recently saw that episode after having completely forgotten it and woo boy you're not wrong Top 10 Anime Battles I wonder if this aired before or after the kinda-sorta similar Vorlon stuff on Babylon 5.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Is he the captain of The Hood? He is! Nog loaned out the Captain's desk to some guy who apparently had photos of himself behind DeSoto and Picard's desks.
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Nov 30, 2017 21:31
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Delsaber posted:Top 10 Anime Battles Thinking about it, I wonder if Weyoun's hair was inspired by Mr. Morden's. DS9 just couldn't stop ripping B5 off, man. What a bunch of loving hacks.
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Nov 30, 2017 21:45
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Peachfart posted:I actually rather like the augments, they are entertaining. But Bashir is really creepy and unethical in Chrysalis. To be fair, that's the whole point - Bashir realizes at the end that he crossed the line and was acting gross, and so he backs off.
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Cythereal posted:To be fair, that's the whole point - Bashir realizes at the end that he crossed the line and was acting gross, and so he backs off. If only there were some basic set of expectations that went along with being a doctor that could have prevented this completely obvious problem! Next, maybe they should do a story about him sexually harassing a nurse and realizing he was acting gross but having no consequences. Sounds great! thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Winn is a great character, but i feel like having her working with the Pah Wraiths was a mistake I mean... Give it 10 years, it'll probably seem quaint in comparison to whatever's going on in real life politics at that point.
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Nov 30, 2017 21:57
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thexerox123 posted:If only there were some basic set of expectations that went along with being a doctor that could have prevented this completely obvious problem! The show's not on anymore
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The show's not on anymore I've travelled back in time to 1998 to watch it, how do you rewatch TV?
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