|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:This is the leader of a Dem super pac. It's sad when the money men have firmer morals than the leadership. God, it's so easy to be on the right side of this issue and yet here we are.
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 17:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 19:37 |
|
|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:This is the leader of a Dem super pac. It's sad when the money men have firmer morals than the leadership. the money men expect bang for their buck. they expect the policies they have spent money on advocating for to be successfully advocated, and issues preventing those policies from being accomplished to be dealt with. they are, in a word, pragmatic. meanwhile, the Democratic Party are, in a word, cowards.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 17:54
|
|
|
If only you could target your messaging so as to earnestly address the needs of the varying groups you need to vote for you. Like, and to quote from that article again, quote:The focus on the sexual allegations against Mr. Moore has been frustrating to Catherine Flowers, an activist who said they were blotting out other issues important to African-Americans. that hookworm thing? The sewage? loving talk about poo poo like that to the affected communities. That's an extremely small amount of tailoring that carries next to no risk and can pan out very well.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 17:57
|
|
|
WampaLord I think Al Franken should resign or forced out and the quickly mounting evidence of his indiscretions is not suitable for public life. Your thoughts?
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:03
|
|
|
Take it to PM or something boon, nobody cares about your stupid slapfight
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:05
|
|
|
Boon posted:WampaLord Great, I'm glad we agree. Boon posted:I called you self-righteous because your entire schtick is posting from a sanctimonious pillar of moral superiority wherein any dissension of opinion, no matter how well reasoned, is met with quickly escalating posts of fury which end up in all caps. I get passionate when I post, and attacking someone for "posting from a sanctimonious pillar of moral superiority" just seems like you're upset at your own moral failings and taking it out on me and various other "leftists" who make you feel bad.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:05
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:Some poster was doing it earlier in this thread when he said that Pelosi had to defend Conyers because ~THE OPTICS~ of a white woman attacking a black man are bad. Remember when saying that Pelosi really, really sucks at Democratic Party messaging was a controversial point here? (like, last month)
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:06
|
|
|
Boon posted:WampaLord Wampa was calling for his resignation when we only knew of the first accusation. What are you even trying to do here? I am glad you now agree with the obviously morally correct position, i hope the DNC leadership comes around as well. Majorian posted:Remember when saying that Pelosi really, really sucks at Democratic Party messaging was a controversial point here? I don't think people were disagreeing that she is bad at messaging. They were defending her against people calling for her to step down by saying she is an amazing whip. She has no business doing messaging of any kind however.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:07
|
|
|
We should really be talking about taxes because Republicans are about to set the stage for dismantling the federal government entirely.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:08
|
|
|
Stereotype posted:We should really be talking about taxes because Republicans are about to set the stage for dismantling the federal government entirely. Jokes on them, without the federal government they have no power or money at all, comparatively.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:12
|
|
|
Stereotype posted:We should really be talking about taxes because Republicans are about to set the stage for dismantling the federal government entirely. What's there to talk about besides doom and gloom? Republicans were always going to pass a tax bill. The entire health care black eye they put themselves through was from day one about freeing up more money for this tax bill. The mega donors want it, it's going to happen.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:13
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:Great, I'm glad we agree. We have always agreed, my man.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:14
|
|
|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I don't think people were disagreeing that she is bad at messaging. They were defending her against people calling for her to step down by saying she is an amazing whip. She has no business doing messaging of any kind however. I wish this were true, but if that was purely their argument, they wouldn't have been disagreeing with me. Because that's p. much what I was saying.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:15
|
|
|
There is one constant ray of light in a chaotic sea of darkness https://mobile.twitter.com/colinwil...5116%23lastpost The Freedom Caucus are loving idiots.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:16
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:There is one constant ray of light in a chaotic sea of darkness They remind me of Gluttony from "Fullmetal Alchemist." Driven purely by instinct and a drive to eat their own.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:17
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:There is one constant ray of light in a chaotic sea of darkness And yet, much like Obi-Wan Kenobi, they're our only hope.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:19
|
|
|
Love to see a political system so dysfunctional that the main thing hampering the death cultists is their own true believer fanatics.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:23
|
|
|
Cerebral Bore posted:Love to see a political system so dysfunctional that the main thing hampering the death cultists is their own true believer fanatics. The best part is that they don’t seem to realize that their end goal of “no taxes on anyone” is not feasible due to Senate reconciliation rules about long term deficits. So when the Senate gives them a bill that cuts taxes as much as possible, and probably a little more than is allowed, they still vote no because it isn’t ALL the taxes
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:31
|
|
|
WampaLord posted:Great, I'm glad we agree. 9/10, didn't end post in all caps.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:52
|
|
|
Chilichimp posted:9/10, didn't end post in all caps. Hahaha
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:54
|
|
|
Stereotype posted:The best part is that they don’t seem to realize that their end goal of “no taxes on anyone” is not feasible due to Senate reconciliation rules about long term deficits. So when the Senate gives them a bill that cuts taxes as much as possible, and probably a little more than is allowed, they still vote no because it isn’t ALL the taxes Their end goal is staying elected, they do that by out-crazying all possible challengers. If they supported something concrete, they could be criticized by a future challenger for accepting a compromise. It's in their interest for everything to fail so long as they can maintain their purity by shouting NO to everything.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 18:56
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:Their end goal is staying elected, they do that by out-crazying all possible challengers. If they supported something concrete, they could be criticized by a future challenger for accepting a compromise. It's in their interest for everything to fail so long as they can maintain their purity by shouting NO to everything. This is largely true, but you also gotta throw in the fact that many of them are dumb enough to really believe the poo poo they're spouting.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 19:09
|
|
|
Majorian posted:This is largely true, but you also gotta throw in the fact that many of them are dumb enough to really believe the poo poo they're spouting. Fair, but I think even those realize on a gut level that endless contrarianism is to their advantage. Viscerally if not rationally. They're elected politicians, they have instincts even if they don't have frontal lobes.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 19:17
|
|
|
Hieronymous Alloy posted:Fair, but I think even those realize on a gut level that endless contrarianism is to their advantage. Viscerally if not rationally. They're elected politicians, they have instincts even if they don't have frontal lobes. Yeah, that's accurate IMO. They've stumbled into a paradigm that works, and by God, they're going to stick with it to the hilt. Which, you know, credit where credit's due, is wise.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 19:23
|
|
|
Evolution in action.
|
|
#
?
Nov 30, 2017 19:28
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:The Keillor news is devastating for the 80 year olds who actually listen to Prairie Home Companion. This is the steroid scandal all over again. Anyone who ever listened to him knew he was a diddler. That was part of his appeal. https://sports.theonion.com/barry-bonds-took-steroids-reports-everyone-who-has-eve-1819568339 I do like how every time we have a Republican President, we get to have a cutesy little social justice scandal. It's super hosed up and something that should have been dealt with years ago but now we're going to focus on that instead of putting the tax burden on those least able to pay it. Or care about sportsball instead of invading a foreign nation on faulty data. Who cares man, look at the ball! Look at the ball *fake throw*. I still have the ball. You want the ball? You want the ball? Sit. Stay. *fake throw* Stupid loving dog.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 01:20
|
|
|
genuinely curious whose rereg this is, don't recognize the brand from one post the self-important love with his own metaphors puts me in mind of the dearly departed paradol ex, but we live in a time when there's no shortage of people jerking themselves raw to their own despair
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 07:10
|
|
|
Everyone knows its impossible to care about more than one thing at a time, and getting mad about sexual assault means we're all out of mad for yelling about the tax plan.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 09:22
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/936430866464731136 Uh, I, well... I don’t think that’s quite how it works, in this particular situation.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 09:25
|
|
|
Well, Jones did hire those Ossoff people, so a healthy amount of cluelessness is to be expected.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 09:52
|
|
|
https://imgur.com/a/PmSXl What'd'ya make of these numbers?
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 10:18
|
|
|
Cerebral Bore posted:Well, Jones did hire those Ossoff people, so a healthy amount of cluelessness is to be expected. Yeah, Jones is running the exact same "let's not upset any white folks who might vote Democrat for the first time in 30 years" campaign and it's gonna go exactly as well.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 10:46
|
|
|
Uglycat posted:https://imgur.com/a/PmSXl Edit: spent an extra second on it. A spike in some radiation metric? Dunno, that’s some choppy data. Maybe that elevated rate from last week in Europe making its way over here? Doesn’t matter either way, it isn’t far outside the standard deviation and already decreased. Also note that the mean value of one is the peak value of the other, so it really isn’t a worrying amount of whatever it is. Stereotype fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Dec 1, 2017 |
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 11:03
|
|
|
The Democrats are going to lose to a literal pedophile. Wow
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:13
|
|
|
Chomskyan posted:The Democrats are going to lose to a literal pedophile. Wow In Alabama, and the pedophile has a R next to his name. The surprise thing here is that we ever thought Jones was going to win.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:16
|
|
|
Jones might still pull it off even though he's got the bad dem bullshit hanging like a millstone around his neck, but that'd be because the GOP was horribly bad rather than the Dem effort being good. Basically the number one priority still is that the grifters and incompetents need to be purged.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:26
|
|
|
Cerebral Bore posted:Jones might still pull it off even though he's got the bad dem bullshit hanging like a millstone around his neck, but that'd be because the GOP was horribly bad rather than the Dem effort being good. Basically the number one priority still is that the grifters and incompetents need to be purged. I agree with this, but I’d also like to point out that Jones is running on universal public healthcare and raising the minimum wage. In Alabama. His problem is campaign strategy, not what he’s running on. There’s fundamental institutional problems with the way the party runs elections that are hurting more than what the party runs on, if not driving what the party runs on.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:29
|
|
|
Uglycat posted:https://imgur.com/a/PmSXl Wasn't there just a release in Russia they didn't want to fess up to?
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:33
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:I agree with this, but I’d also like to point out that Jones is running on universal public healthcare and raising the minimum wage. In Alabama. I mean that stuff might technically be on Jones' website but as a dude living here, he's not running on it. His self-focused media is largely focused on loving guns, loving business, and loving Jesus. One of his radio ads I hear fairly often has a small bit about "a right to see a doctor when you're sick" but that's super loving vague and, again, a small portion of that particular ad that is dominated by the other things I mentioned. I can't remember hearing poo poo about the minimum wage.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 19:37 |
|
|
Oh Snapple! posted:I mean that stuff might technically be on Jones' website but as a dude living here, he's not running on it. His self-focused media is largely focused on loving guns, loving business, and loving Jesus. One of his radio ads I hear fairly often has a small bit about "a right to see a doctor when you're sick" but that's super loving vague and, again, a small portion of that particular ad that is dominated by the other things I mentioned. I can't remember hearing poo poo about the minimum wage. Yea, this is the fundamental problem behind every argument about how the 2016 Dem platform was the most leftist platform in history. If you ignore the platform when you're running, no one's going to hear the message.
|
|
#
?
Dec 1, 2017 18:41
|
|