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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
When I play video games I own scrubs so hard that it's an art form itself.

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DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

DebonaireD posted:

It was easier to get hyped for a game when you were reading about it in a glossy color magazine. Some grainy screenshots and paragraphs of devs overpromising on the mechanics and systems that'll be the actual substance of the game is a better fit for the medium than a cinematically styled youtube trailer. Movies work entirely through editing and there is no editing in video games - maybe never will be, might just be incompatible on a structural level. I think that's why Ebert said games weren't art - not because they were cheesy or immature, but because they couldnt use editing the way movies, books and music do. Maybe games arent art but are more like... social dancing?

i agree with you about reviews, but the "video games aren't art" statement is and will always be dumb and made by people who haven't seen a game since they looked over the shoulder of someone playing pacman in a bar that one time

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

video games are like, creative works that are designed solely to make you feel emotions, that sounds like art to me man

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

mind the walrus posted:

Comics are about conception

so's my doings with your mother

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon

Jeza posted:

ceci n'est pas un art

https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=2232

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich

DrPossum posted:

i agree with you about reviews, but the "video games aren't art" statement is and will always be dumb and made by people who haven't seen a game since they looked over the shoulder of someone playing pacman in a bar that one time

Which is funny because I think Pac Man is a good example of video games as art. It does its own thing and doesn’t try to imitate other forms of art, like all the cinematic masterpieces of the modern era do with movies.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Are we still talking about video games as art like 10 years after even lovely failing gaming rags stopped talking about it? lmbo

Unpopular video game opinion: Jack Thompson was right

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Does anyone else ever wonder how different the face of video games would look today if Rodger Ebert hadn't stuck his oar in?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

2house2fly posted:

Does anyone else ever wonder how different the face of video games would look today if Rodger Ebert hadn't stuck his oar in?

they didn't seem to change their trajectory even a little tiny bit so no, not really

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The best part about the Roger Ebert thing is that even he admitted it was a stupid comment.

Tbh that dude was a such a goon at heart he probably would have ended up really in to some of them by this point. I could see him going gaga over some walking simulators or something.

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
overwatch is a poo poo game

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Magius1337est posted:

overwatch is a poo poo game

Overwatch is a good game.

















































... for a clown to play at the circus!!!

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
Yakuza 0 might be the most videogame ever. I can't stop playing mahjong and I don't know what the tiles are. And I watched. Japanese porno. What the poo poo is this and how is it better than everything I've played this year?

Edit: I'm on a "date" now with someone who needs me to be their boyfriend. I play videogames for escapism, what the gently caress?

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

Caesar Saladin posted:

video games are like, creative works that are designed solely to make you feel emotions, that sounds like art to me man

I don’t really feel emotions while playing games, except for frustration occasionally.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
Here's an unpopular opinion: games are better today and if we lost all games before the current generation, there would be little of value that was lost.

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

Oscar Wild posted:

Here's an unpopular opinion: games are better today and if we lost all games before the current generation, there would be little of value that was lost.

Agreed.

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


I started playing Horizon Zero Dawn after all the goon hype about it, and my unpopular opinion is that it's entirely average.

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

man nurse posted:

I started playing Horizon Zero Dawn after all the goon hype about it, and my unpopular opinion is that it's entirely average.

Agreed.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I always feel bad saying games like Horizon Zero Dawn are average because all of that graphical work is so consistently impressive, but hey mechanics and game-feel don't lie.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!
The best Grand Theft Auto games are 1 and 2 from DMA Design.

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga
I'd kill for a return to top down GTA

HORNEY VAPE BRO
Jun 14, 2009

The slower pace introduced by the Halo series is more fun than the PC shooters of the time like Quake 3 because we're not all 14 year olds with ritalin perscriptions chugging Red Bulls

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

HORNEY VAPE BRO posted:

The slower pace introduced by the Halo series is more fun than the PC shooters of the time like Quake 3 because we're not all 14 year olds with ritalin perscriptions chugging Red Bulls

Agreed.

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!
The best games of last year were Doom and Titanfall.

The best games of this year were Mario Odyssey and RE7.

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

bloodysabbath posted:

The best games of last year were Doom and Titanfall.

The best games of this year were Mario Odyssey and RE7.

Disagreed.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


mind the walrus posted:

I always feel bad saying games like Horizon Zero Dawn are average because all of that graphical work is so consistently impressive, but hey mechanics and game-feel don't lie.

Except the mechanics and game feel in HZD are really good?

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Caesar Saladin posted:

video games are like, creative works that are designed solely to make you feel emotions, that sounds like art to me man

art is a machine for creating art feeling

which is just moving the problem somewhere else, but it's a better place for it to live imo

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Chomp8645 posted:

When I play video games I own scrubs so hard that it's an art form itself.


a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Magius1337est posted:

I'd kill for a return to top down GTA

Rockstar made a top down GTA for the DS where you primarily sell drugs to make money.

That game was hella fun I hope they make a top-down GTA for the switch.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

a bone to pick posted:

Rockstar made a top down GTA for the DS where you primarily sell drugs to make money.

That game was hella fun I hope they make a top-down GTA for the switch.

there's a smartphone port of this one and unlike the phone ports of 3 and vice city it's actually totally playable on a touchscreen because it was designed to be gimmicky on the DS

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
It was a really good game, I still have the map for it:

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

a bone to pick posted:

It was a really good game, I still have the map for it:



I still have my cloth map that came with Everquest with all the zone names in the wrong places

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

bloodysabbath posted:

The best games of last year were Doom and Titanfall.

The best games of this year were Mario Odyssey and RE7.

Best game of 2017 is Breath of the Wild. SMO is #2. RE7 is very good but niche.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Meme Emulator posted:

I still have my cloth map that came with Everquest with all the zone names in the wrong places

post the dang map

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Waltzing Along posted:

Best game of 2017 is Breath of the Wild. SMO is #2. RE7 is very good but niche.

BotW is definitely GotY but there's no way in hell SMO is #2

it's delightful and could have easily claimed a top spot in like 2015 but 2017's lineup is just too strong for a mario game - even a good one - to make a huge impact if it's not really pushing the envelope like BotW did

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
In 2015?! I haven't played it if it could take on Bloodborne and win then maybe I should

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


actually ive been informed that Bloodborne is GOTY again in 2017, and also 2018

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon
everquest was good and fun and something that will never get recaptured i never got to the endgame

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Borderlands 2 is easily the best JRPG ever made.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

2house2fly posted:

In 2015?! I haven't played it if it could take on Bloodborne and win then maybe I should

poo poo tbh i forgot BB came out in 2015...14 was pretty dire though, wasn't it?

SMO is really good and i love it but it's not even the best mario game in the last decade

(if there's a SMO2 though it will probably polish it into GOAT territory though)

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Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

food court bailiff posted:

poo poo tbh i forgot BB came out in 2015...14 was pretty dire though, wasn't it?

SMO is really good and i love it but it's not even the best mario game in the last decade

(if there's a SMO2 though it will probably polish it into GOAT territory though)

2014 was bad, yes. So was 2013, 2012, 2011, and keep counting backwards until the PS3/360 generation starts (2006?)

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