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trucutru posted:Since the likely ending for this whole farce is death by a thousand refunds, MoMA keeping his money in and thus allowing somebody else to get a refund with it, is way less negative. I don't think it's that simple, the chances are that moma's money is spent on something daft or paying part of the salaries to the 400 staff, outputting content equivalent to 20 staff with reasonable guidance , rather than providing a refund to someone else.
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trucutru posted:It's not about polygons and fidelity, that's what PCmasterrace wankers like to jerk off to, but about style and substance. Even with all "high fidelity super realism", would that look like a thousand years into the future? Does the armor seem derivative? Are the shops attractive (like all shops should be)? Do they have a consistent style? Why are there some crudely photoshopped beer mugs (among other things) on that bar? i'm a simple man with simple tastes, i still like to run around skyrim with a darth vader helmet and a lightsaber, summoning trains that breathe fire and having a wonderful time to me the upshot is whatever you're focusing on to the detriment of other things better be executed well if you're focusing on gameplay, do good gameplay and I'm not going to critique how there's a dude in space with a fishbowl helmet and boxers if you're focusing on making things pretty, i expect a lot of background-worthy screenshots even if there's literally nothing else to do but fly to another pretty spot and take more screenshots if you're doing grabby hands, those better be the grabbiest goddamn hands
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:10 |
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Latin Pheonix posted:End of sale and day figures ahoy The 2017 Anniversary sale continues through Dec 4. Daz' $7.7M figure is for all of Nov 2016 revenue. The 2016 Anniversary sale was $6.74M.
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https://twitter.com/SC_Logicorp/status/936298807951876096 https://twitter.com/Dalladh/status/936398203745980416
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:11 |
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Skippy huh
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:13 |
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Mne nravitsya posted:You are nearly spot on friend! Well done On a scale of 1-10 how triggered does make you feel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LSWDZmEWn0
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:13 |
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mp5 posted:Skippy huh drat Skippy!
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:13 |
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https://twitter.com/iq_derek/status/935975762498383873 https://twitter.com/iq_derek/status/936277789682098177 https://twitter.com/iq_derek/status/936328975634391041 https://twitter.com/iq_derek/status/936280216112107522
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:15 |
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I don't blame MoMA for not trying, though I disagree with the notion you could conceivably argue that the game's development is in a good place right now in a way that would be even remotely convincing to any but the most blinkered of individuals. It's fine to have faith in what's being done (to a point), but even dismissing the arguments about the financials for CIG you can't call what's come out so far a positive sign of progress. There's so many promises made about things to come in the future but the features that are in are so fundamentally broken it's difficult to fathom how they're just going to one day go "Oh look it's all working now" simply because they've been adding stuff without fixing anything which is breaking things even more. This is the barest surface of the argument that the entire project is messed up. It's a game that at its core features travel from point A to point B as one of the things people will likely be doing the most in the game, and the game struggles with even managing that without doing something like violently ejecting a crew member into space, or mangling them for no reason, or the ship just plain loving exploding for no reason. It's a game where we've seen someone get out of their bunk, and with the goal of walking from point A to point B died in their doorway for no good reason at all. It's a game full of doors, but the doors are either the greatest hindrance or bypassed by simply rubbing up against them till you clip through them. All of this at 15 to 20 frames per second on a good day when there's not too many people in the server, which defeats the purpose of the game since it is at its core meant to be a game featuring degrees of socialising with other players in the form of alliances, trades and conflict. What has been released at this point is just unacceptable when set against the metric of time spent on it. You cannot hope to convince anyone here that they're being too harsh on this game and its developers when after so many years all they've done is just dump whatever they had at the time at people's feet and ask for more money.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:15 |
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AP posted:I don't think it's that simple, the chances are that moma's money is spent on something daft or paying part of the salaries to the 400 staff, outputting content equivalent to 20 staff with reasonable guidance , rather than providing a refund to someone else. Well, money is fungible, while his particular 1700 bucks may have been used on half a week worth of cocaine, those are still 1700 potential dollars that could be refunded to smarter people.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:17 |
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Wow, you can see the ship's reflection on that tiny, tiny planet.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:19 |
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TheLastRoboKy posted:I don't blame MoMA for not trying, though I disagree with the notion you could conceivably argue that the game's development is in a good place right now in a way that would be even remotely convincing to any but the most blinkered of individuals. It's fine to have faith in what's being done (to a point), but even dismissing the arguments about the financials for CIG you can't call what's come out so far a positive sign of progress. There's so many promises made about things to come in the future but the features that are in are so fundamentally broken it's difficult to fathom how they're just going to one day go "Oh look it's all working now" simply because they've been adding stuff without fixing anything which is breaking things even more. This is the barest surface of the argument that the entire project is messed up. CIG has gotten this far by implying (falsely, of course) that ALL games are this hosed during pre-alpha, and the backers repeat it like good little soldiers. They think they're seeing the sausage being made. I've worked on enough poo poo to know that almost nothing that runs like this during any phase of development is suddenly going to spin like a top because of some golden code they layered in. The basest foundation of the game does not work. Land claim sticks won't fix that.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:20 |
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My alcohol-and-bash-powerd software build pipelines run better than Star Citizen. And I'm not even a dev.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:22 |
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ManofManyAliases posted:I tried all that stuff - yada yada - it was chastised here because it doesn't conform to the "get a refund, SC is a SCAM" mantra that's circle-jerked in this thread. Are you crawling back into your “nobody understands me or gives me the time of day, I want to contribute but it’d just be met with hate and goon rage”? Just be chill, friend. I still don’t believe you have a dime in this game, but you just love to egg people on, especially Derek. And that’s fine because you’ve got a 99% rate of return on any ribbing you send his way, and it’s usually funny. Despite it all I like you because you haven’t resorted to the “go gently caress yourself” mentality and generally play along good in good nature. I like that. What I don’t like is when you pull this Eeyore stuff. It doesn’t fit you, and you should just be fun and actually acknowledge that you fit in well instead of constantly trying to be this self imposed outsider with this Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect!” shtick.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:what the hell does FUD stand for? Fantastically Underwhelming Development
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Abuminable posted:The 2017 Anniversary sale continues through Dec 4. Daz' $7.7M figure is for all of Nov 2016 revenue. The 2016 Anniversary sale was $6.74M. I was looking at it mostly at a month-on-month comparison, taking into account that the bulk of the sales in November 2017 were from the anniversary sale. As you say, the sale isn't over yet, so I didn't think there was much point in going through the sale itself just yet. I did phrase it badly at the top of my post, though; I meant to say end of today's sale figures (as I've been occasionally doing the last few days). E: just edited my original post. Nanako the Narc fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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How are you guys liking elite: dangerous? I'd like to buy it but I have two concerns. One, I hear they're doing lots of expansions which will cost lots more money unless you backed it, or something. Two, I'm concerned to hear combat usually isn't as viable a way to make money as sitting in a space truck for twenty hours. Ha. Isn't that a funny thought? With E:D's pledge model, you actually save money if you backed it beforehand. Ha. Ha.
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https://twitter.com/DerekRetarded/status/935944733184135168 https://twitter.com/DerekRetarded/status/935946227572723713
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Scruffpuff posted:I suspect the answer to this lies in one of Chris Roberts' basic tenets: he thinks Hollywood movies are how life works. The Hollywood CEO takes no prisoners, and their effectiveness is never in their own intelligence, ability, aptitude, or leadership, but in the ability to be a no-nonsense guy who takes no guff and says things like "GET IT DONE!" while disregarding the lives of everyone beneath him. If you don't do what he says, then you don't have "what it takes" to work for him, implying that being under his leadership is a great privilege reserved for only the best of the best. I can see this aspect too, but it doesn’t explain the insane timelines he projects. You can be a “get it done!” sort of manager but also realize you need to say that for the next year to complete a milestone. I admit though that sometimes I get frustrated with developers, and every so often I have to evoke the “just do what I’m telling you to do, I don’t want your insane creativity here to throw everything off track” because obvious reasons. There’s a timeline and I can’t have people wandering off and playing code hero over in left field. I’m just eagerly curious why CR’s timelines are so horrendous, and if he makes impossible demands without having a clue what he’s asking.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:30 |
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Has anyone said Derek Stupid yet?
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:30 |
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The Titanic posted:What I don’t like is when you pull this Eeyore stuff. It doesn’t fit you, and you should just be fun and actually acknowledge that you fit in well instead of constantly trying to be this self imposed outsider with this Rodney Dangerfield “I don’t get no respect!” shtick. this is now a rodney dangerfield appreciation thread "I'm a bad lover. Once I caught a peeping tom booing me." "My uncle's dying wish was to have me sitting on his lap. He was in the electric chair." "If it weren't for pick-pocketers, I'd have no sex life at all." "I had a lot of pimples too. One day I fell asleep in the library. I woke up and a blind man was reading my face."
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Gosts posted:How are you guys liking elite: dangerous? I'd like to buy it but I have two concerns. One, I hear they're doing lots of expansions which will cost lots more money unless you backed it, or something. Two, I'm concerned to hear combat usually isn't as viable a way to make money as sitting in a space truck for twenty hours. IMO, It's boring poo poo, but a lot of people like it, so give it a try.
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Latin Pheonix posted:I was looking at it mostly at a month-on-month comparison, taking into account that the bulk of the sales in November 2017 were from the anniversary sale. As you say, the sale isn't over yet, so I didn't think there was much point in going through the sale itself just yet. Got it! The gist of what you wrote is totally right: despite them putting up everything they've got for sale, plus lawn darts, they can't overcome the loss of faith and interest this project has suffered since summer 2016 due to their own incompetence.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:33 |
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Mirificus posted:https://twitter.com/DerekRetarded/status/935944733184135168 I guess this guy couldn't afford a beacon, because he's clearly lost the plot.
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Kosumo posted:At lest she died doing what she loved. Cleaning jizz out of the hot tub. It was my dream come true!
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:42 |
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I've enjoyed the arguments of supporting CIG for doing something no one has ever done before and laughing at criticism of it being an insane idea because Second Life did it successfully years ago.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:42 |
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alf_pogs posted:i'd love a WHERE ARE THEY NOW of some of the crazy star citizens Toilet Citizen still goes to the bathroom. In fact, there’s a good chance he’s in there right now, tucked in junk and all.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:46 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:CIG will once again do what no other game developer has: Sell Richard Garriott's blood. Yes!
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:48 |
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Abuminable posted:Got it! The gist of what you wrote is totally right: despite them putting up everything they've got for sale, plus lawn darts, they can't overcome the loss of faith and interest this project has suffered since summer 2016 due to their own incompetence. Somewhere I'm picturing a furious Chris pulling out his hair: "drat it! I gave all of you 2 concepts and land beacons, what more do you want?!?". But that's the heart pf the problem; the old tricks aren't working anymore, you can only milk the same whales for so long and no-one new is joining SC to throw money on the fire.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:50 |
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trucutru posted:Like, in his mind, MoMA thinks he's able to write a reasoned rebuttal/opinion and that he hasn't done so after more than a year of posting because we are just assholes that wouldn't be able to handle it. It’s his “Eeyore Clause”.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:50 |
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The Titanic posted:It’s his “Eeyore Clause”. Dammit... the alpha channel on is still busted. When I uploaded it, transparency was broken when the emote was enabled. I told lowtax I must have somehow uploaded it without transparency and he said he would fix it.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 02:59 |
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Lol are they really selling plots of space land now for 100 dollars is it really true?
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 03:09 |
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Baxta posted:It wont be the final straw. There is no final straw for these people. No matter what CIG do, they are balls deep and will never ever admit to having made a bad decision. The company could go bankrupt and CR could release a video of him waving from the caribbean while wearing a shirt that says "LOL SUCKERS" and these people will just handwave it away. “Check out my private yacht, “Kickstart my Dreams!” Wish you guys were still sending me gifts! Can’t wait to see you buy into my next big kickstarter project: Space game in Space like World War 2, Inspired by Wing Commander!”
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 03:09 |
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Abuminable posted:Dammit... the alpha channel on is still busted. When I uploaded it, transparency was broken when the emote was enabled. I told lowtax I must have somehow uploaded it without transparency and he said he would fix it. It’s still beautiful, friend.
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# ? Dec 1, 2017 03:09 |
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i'm the year of crunch that only earned enough to keep the lights on for like a month and a half
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Abuminable posted:Dammit... the alpha channel on is still busted. When I uploaded it, transparency was broken when the emote was enabled. I told lowtax I must have somehow uploaded it without transparency and he said he would fix it. How many years ago did you ask him to fix it?
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The Titanic posted:It’s still beautiful, friend. Thanks. I sent lowtax another message. If he can pry his daughter away from his computer long enough -- who's been playing SC non-stop ever since he let her try it -- maybe he can get that smilie fixed. Beet Wagon posted:How many years ago did you ask him to fix it? July years.
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Abuminable posted:Thanks. I sent lowtax another message. If he can pry his daughter away from his computer long enough -- who's been playing SC non-stop ever since he let her try it -- maybe he can get that smilie fixed. Send me a fixed version, and I'll see if I can't get an admin to handle it in a timely manner.
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