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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:While we're talking about WW, Jenkins spoke a bit about WW2 with Variety She really doesn't have the balls to do anything subversive.
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viral spiral posted:She really doesn't have the balls to do anything subversive. 
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Dec 1, 2017 20:39
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She articulated in her own words that she's pursuing a traditional superhero film formula (and another love story!), numbnuts.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:46
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Is an oversimplification of course, but her words do read like "WW2 will be WW but we changed germans for russians!" A promise I don't find particularly exciting.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:49
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C'mon, tell me you don't want to see how a big-budget superhero film released in 2019 attempts to portray the Soviet Union.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:54
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Is an oversimplification of course, but her words do read like "WW2 will be WW but we changed germans for russians!" Well, the first movie wasn't particularly exciting either. I can't imagine anyone being super hyped for another WW.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:55
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Steve Bannon Trevor I was close.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:56
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If Wonder Woman 2 is in modern day, the enemy should be The Bernie Bros.
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Dec 1, 2017 20:59
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Jimbot posted:If Wonder Woman 2 is in modern day, the enemy should be The Bernie Bros. I don't know that Wonder Woman pursuing an enemy that wasn't actually responsible for any of society's ills needs to be a persistent theme in her movies.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:04
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viral spiral posted:She really doesn't have the balls to do anything subversive. viral spiral posted:She articulated in her own words that she's pursuing a traditional superhero film formula (and another love story!), numbnuts. Gal Gadot's been vocal about pushing for Diana's love interest in the second movie to be a woman. I really doubt DC has the guts to green-light that, but I appreciate the thought.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:05
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Sir Kodiak posted:I don't know that Wonder Woman pursuing an enemy that wasn't actually responsible for any of society's ills needs to be a persistent theme in her movies. Joking aside, if they want to bring real world poo poo into the films then they should go for broke and have the US government be the villain. It's the plot in Suicide Squad hooked me and despite the mess the state of that film was in, it still kept the overall message of how the government loses control of situations and makes things actively worse. Cythereal posted:Gal Gadot's been vocal about pushing for Diana's love interest in the second movie to be a woman. I really doubt DC has the guts to green-light that, but I appreciate the thought. We'll get this during the 3rd reboot, the post-for real this is going to be awesome this time unlike the last burning heap Flashpoint event honest guys Flashpoint 2 universe. Except the downside this Diane will be played by a white woman from the San Fernando valley.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:20
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euphronius posted:Steve Bannon - the most honest man in the movie Alright, these DC movies really are officially getting too grim for me. viral spiral posted:She articulated in her own words that she's pursuing a traditional superhero film formula (and another love story!), numbnuts. I assume it was just a joke about the choice of words - "she doesn't have the balls."
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Dec 1, 2017 21:21
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josh04 posted:Eh, I still haven't got round to watching the extended version in full. My inclination is that unmuddying the waters around what was Lex and what was people acting on their worst instincts probably detracts from the verisimilitude. Real people are messy. I'm still having my black-and-white cut of the film vetted, but I've eliminated any reference to whether or not Wally was or was not complicit in the capital bombing. You still have Lex blocking his checks, but there's none of that poo poo about lead-lined wheelchairs or Lois investigating his pad.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:30
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I don't mind Lois's discovery that Wally wasn't knowingly a suicide bomber. The issue with the lead in the wheelchair is that it's better if it really is that Superman didn't even think to look.
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There's an interesting debate of if he even should look. Should he be a functioning TSA and x-ray everything in his sight at all times? Isn't that a massive violation of privacy? He'd have no reason to think this guy had a bomb.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:37
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Al Borland Corp. posted:There's an interesting debate of if he even should look. Should he be a functioning TSA and x-ray everything in his sight at all times? Isn't that a massive violation of privacy? He'd have no reason to think this guy had a bomb. No, I agree, and most importantly, so, in theory, would the senator that called him there to testify. But that debate is more meaningful if he would have found it if he would have looked.
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Right. It's a lot like the shanking of the sex trafficker in the Metropolis prison. We already get confirmation through the unmarked polaroids mailed to Clark Kent that Lex is somehow behind it. But the problem is that it's redundant. It convolutes the much more straightforward moral problem that Bruce - acting as the crypto-fascist arm of liberal democratic society - is branding people for death, that his defenders laud him for sending the worst of the worst to prison, not realizing that among the worst of the worst, there are those who feel valorized to commit more injustice. Turns out, reactionary prison gangs love Batman. He's helping them to do God's work.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:47
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The theatrical cut succinctly shows that Batman is a Blue Lives Matter guy, and the feeling is mutual. The cops openly approve of rule through fear.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:52
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bushisms.txt posted:It's just as good as the UC, which is redundant scenes put back in so nerds could have the plot spelled out for them. The theatrical cut had faith the viewer could concentrate on a movie past costume designs. The problem with the TC is mostly that the movie is structured around having those spelling-the-plot-out-to-nerds scenes in there, and that taking them out makes the pacing super janky.
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Dec 1, 2017 21:54
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K. Waste posted:Right. It's a lot like the shanking of the sex trafficker in the Metropolis prison. We already get confirmation through the unmarked polaroids mailed to Clark Kent that Lex is somehow behind it. But the problem is that it's redundant. It convolutes the much more straightforward moral problem that Bruce - acting as the crypto-fascist arm of liberal democratic society - is branding people for death, that his defenders laud him for sending the worst of the worst to prison, not realizing that among the worst of the worst, there are those who feel valorized to commit more injustice. Turns out, reactionary prison gangs love Batman. He's helping them to do God's work. In light of today's climate the extended actually kind of has Clark as the kind of idiot journalist who profiles a Nazi for the NYT and is like "This guy has a family just like us!?" Except obviously this guy shouldn't be executed in prison of course.
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So Armie Hammer talked about his Batman from George Miller's Justice League: Mortal:quote:[Batman] was a guy who is severely, psychologically, almost deranged. It was dark and it was really intense and this guy had major trust issues, the whole thing Which is hilarious because Hammer sounds pretty miscast for that. But he'd make an excellent Adam West style Batman.
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Dec 1, 2017 22:05
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George Miller's Justice League was basically going to be the Tower of Babel arc, right?
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Dec 1, 2017 22:08
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George Miller should have done the Justice League reshoots.
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Dec 1, 2017 22:10
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Detective No. 27 posted:George Miller should have done the Justice League reshoots.
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Detective No. 27 posted:George Miller should have done the Justice League reshoots. poo poo yeah.
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Detective No. 27 posted:George Miller should have done the Justice League
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feedmyleg posted:Which is hilarious because Hammer sounds pretty miscast for that. But he'd make an excellent Adam West style Batman. Nah. Hammer can't definitely play that role. It's under the surface in Social Network and his most recent film, but I think he could bring it to the forefront. He would've been great.
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Detective No. 27 posted:George Miller should have done the Justice League reshoots. Yeah, though there's unfortunately still a limit to what that would have been worth given the time constraints. Fury Road was exhaustively planned out.
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PriorMarcus posted:Nah. Hammer can't definitely play that role. It's under the surface in Social Network and his most recent film, but I think he could bring it to the forefront. He would've been great. He plays a violent psychotic barely holding it together in Man from U.N.C.L.E.
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Dec 1, 2017 22:28
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, though there's unfortunately still a limit to what that would have been worth given the time constraints. Fury Road was exhaustively planned out. I don't think Miller would have added Russian family subplot. I'd miss the Dostoevsky joke, but that's about it.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, though there's unfortunately still a limit to what that would have been worth given the time constraints. Fury Road was exhaustively planned out. I'm sure. But I'm certain he would have made the scenes with Bruce and Alfred standing in the plane and the reshoot of Aquaman jumping in the water look better. I'm thinking back to Fury Road and as far as action and tone, Miller has got a very similar style to Snyder. And nerds love Miller so much. I don't get it. Is it because it's supposed to be obvious that the Mad Max world sucks so there's no power fantasy being uppended?
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Detective No. 27 posted:I'm thinking back to Fury Road and as far as action and tone, Miller has got a very similar style to Snyder. And nerds love Miller so much. I don't get it. Is it because it's supposed to be obvious that the Mad Max world sucks so there's no power fantasy being uppended? MRA groups were boycotting it (as they do) because Max would never be beholden to Furiosa or something, so there was at least SOME kind of power fantasy getting upended along the way.
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Lobok posted:He plays a violent psychotic barely holding it together in Man from U.N.C.L.E. I loved his performance in that film, but to me it felt like a total cartoon character. I agree that Social Network is fairly close in some places, but that's the farthest I've seen him go and it's nowhere near what he's describing in that quote.
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Electromax posted:MRA groups were boycotting it (as they do) because Max would never be beholden to Furiosa or something, so there was at least SOME kind of power fantasy getting upended along the way. It was interesting because I tried searching 'Wonder Woman MRA Reaction,' 'Wonder Woman Return of Kings' etc to find some sweet salt on that and there was like, nothing. I think they learned their lesson from Mad Max and Force Awakens that all they get is mocked, sadly.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:It was interesting because I tried searching 'Wonder Woman MRA Reaction,' 'Wonder Woman Return of Kings' etc to find some sweet salt on that and there was like, nothing. I think they learned their lesson from Mad Max and Force Awakens that all they get is mocked, sadly. There were some duders throwing tantrums over a small number (one?) of special women-only showings at some luxury theaters, I guess that's tangential but also hilarious.
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Cythereal posted:Gal Gadot's been vocal about pushing for Diana's love interest in the second movie to be a woman. I really doubt DC has the guts to green-light that, but I appreciate the thought. This is the first time I have heard about that. It would be staggering if they genuinely went in this direction. 
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Honestly I was pretty upset by the screenings for just Amazon employees
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Pretty sure they would never have Wonder woman have a girlfriend because that would prevent them playing in China or something
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Electromax posted:MRA groups were boycotting it (as they do) because Max would never be beholden to Furiosa or something, so there was at least SOME kind of power fantasy getting upended along the way. i mean, that was less a power fantasy getting upended and more self-absorbed misogynists mad that there was also a power fantasy that appealed to people besides themselves personally i think part of it is that some people are more accepting of social criticism and opposing the status quo when it's some fantasy land with a veiled metaphor like mad max's post-apocalyptic, meanwhile bvs posits that the america we live in today could never accept superman as an unquestionable good guy until he's six feet under and only exists as a symbol to make a fake burial for
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